• Non-IFRA-compliant fragrance on the market

    According to IFRA, It has been publicly alleged that a finished product on the market contains a fragrance material that has been banned IFRA. Sadly, they don't say what the product is, or what it contains.

    IFRA has been investigating the product to see whether or not it constitutes a case of non-compliance to the IFRA Code of Practice. "According to the procedures of our Compliance Program we will now investigate the matter using an independent laboratory to establish the facts and consider appropriate action if required," said Pierre Sivac, IFRA President.

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    1. Sybarite's Avatar
      Sybarite -
      Hooray ! ~ So it seems that there are still some brave perfumers out there, willing to bend/break the rules. )

      The only down side is now having to suffer the consequences. (I feel for them !)
      I wonder what those consequences will be exactly ???
    1. bokaba's Avatar
      bokaba -
      IFRA can certainly give you bad PR, but as far as I know IFRA has no legal power to stop anyone from doing anything. I suppose they could bring a lawsuit in international court, but I suspect the court has better things to do.
    1. scentsitivity's Avatar
      scentsitivity -
      I wonder what it is?
    1. Partario's Avatar
      Partario -
      Good for them. Hopefully other perfumers will follow.
    1. Larimar's Avatar
      Larimar -
      If only more had the guts for disobedience for this 'industry-driven nonsense'...
    1. hedonist222's Avatar
      hedonist222 -
      Yeah which perfume is it.
    1. Redneck Perfumisto's Avatar
      Redneck Perfumisto -
      Civil disobedience! Now available in the handy 3.4 oz bottle.
    1. SculptureOfSoul's Avatar
      SculptureOfSoul -
      I always find it odd when I see either calamus or costus root listed in scents, as both of those are IFRA prohibited. Of course, there may be some synthetic fascimile that I'm not aware of that is allowed.

      I suppose Hermes' Santal Massoia is a contender, too, as massoia bark is completely prohibited.

      Would love to know what scent it is. I'm curious if the house/designer can be held responsible at all or if all responsibility would lie with the perfumer and his/her parent company, seeing as most houses/designers don't own (and presumably don't even know) the formula for the scents in their name.
    1. Redneck Perfumisto's Avatar
      Redneck Perfumisto -
      I'm pretty sure that the Hermès scent is just using the massoia lactone, much like Boss Pure.

      Personally, I would buy a bottle. I suppose that's why they're not releasing the name. Perfume lovers might show support.

      Where is this "scoffrag"? Habeus liquidus!
    1. SculptureOfSoul's Avatar
      SculptureOfSoul -
      Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
      I'm pretty sure that the Hermès scent is just using the massoia lactone, much like Boss Pure.

      Personally, I would buy a bottle. I suppose that's why they're not releasing the name. Perfume lovers might show support.

      Where is this "scoffrag"? Habeus liquidus!
      I always thought massoia lactone itself was the culprit ingredient. According to Goodscents it looks like the lactone is prohibited, too? http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1031001.html
    1. Redneck Perfumisto's Avatar
      Redneck Perfumisto -
      Yeah, I'm sure you're right. It's listed as prohibited in this IFRA spreadsheet.

      My guess is that it's using things like the saturated analogs of the massoia lactones. I think those may be merely restricted.
    1. SculptureOfSoul's Avatar
      SculptureOfSoul -
      Interesting. Some day I'm going to delve into synthetics and isolates. Not sure I'll be looking for a massoia substitute though - I experimented with it a bit in the past and a single wearing of a perfume with an (unkowingly!) overdosed massoia note turned me off; it combined with the cedar and other components to create a sort of milky coconut/vomit/cedar-sawdust-vomit-powder accord.
    1. Redneck Perfumisto's Avatar
      Redneck Perfumisto -
      Quote Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post
      Interesting. Some day I'm going to delve into synthetics and isolates. Not sure I'll be looking for a massoia substitute though - I experimented with it a bit in the past and a single wearing of a perfume with an (unkowingly!) overdosed massoia note turned me off; it combined with the cedar and other components to create a sort of milky coconut/vomit/cedar-sawdust-vomit-powder accord.
      LOL. Except for the "v factor" in that one, it sounds pretty good to me!

      I'm still VERY curious which frag is the violator.
    1. monsieur_sparkle's Avatar
      monsieur_sparkle -
      Fight the power
    1. Hob Dobson's Avatar
      Hob Dobson -
      Some of the prohibition violations could be triggered by batch variations in natural materials (e.g., safrole). Or the reporting could be based on finding an allowed component of a prohibited gum or oil, with the erroneous assumption that if part is present the entire material is present (e.g., verbena oil). I'm guessing that IFRA's gunning for one of the natural perfumers or an American multinational company promoting its use of "natural extracts" in a shampoo or something.
    1. Pour_Monsieur's Avatar
      Pour_Monsieur -
      Its a joke really , I mean the whole IFRA thing . On a crusade , I mean acting in the interests of the consumer ? I really dont think so . After the interiew Persolaise conducted with their mouthpiece , who dodged questions and who came across as really quite defensive , I seriously wonder what their real agenda is , money I shouldnt wonder , certainly not Joe publics health and safety but anyway .....

      We are adults , are we not allowed to make our own decisions anymore ....
    1. MonkeyBars's Avatar
      MonkeyBars -
      I hope this signals a trend!

      Srsly as a dude I would be MORE inclined to buy a frag if it had a big fat warning label on it.

      Warning: Contains Oakmoss! May cause slight rash in 1 in 100,000 people!! (skull & crossbones, photo of mild rash etc)
    1. Mysticman's Avatar
      Mysticman -
      Amen! Some people are violently allergic to peanuts, shellfish, or other foodstuffs, and can even have a fatal reaction to them. Yet nobody is calling for an outright ban on any of those, and they continue to be available for people who can eat them with no ill effects.

      And cigarettes (which are GUARANTEED to do harm to ALL users of them) are still available just about everywhere, with warning labels.

      Why a different standard for fragrances? Label for content, and let us make our own choices.
    1. SculptureOfSoul's Avatar
      SculptureOfSoul -
      The funny thing is they're so worried about dermal reactions but seem to fail to notice the increased respiratory reactions (and this applies not only to the wearer but all in his/her vicinity) that the increase in synthetics has led to. Brilliant!
    1. Natural_Juice's Avatar
      Natural_Juice -
      It was just a few years ago that IFRA declared they would "name and shame" any member in non-compliance: http://www.cropwatch.org/40thpetition.htm



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