FIRST GAME: Can perfumery pheromones change the longevity and volume of perfumes?

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  1. Profumo
    Profumo
    Several of us are ready to start, so let us start. The other ones will jump in the wagon while the train runs.

    The first research we are going to do is meant to make us understand why these pheromones were so precious in the golden age of fine fragrances.

    The first question we shall try to answer is: do the pheromones make the perfumes last longer?

    Our test is as follow. You will mix one of your preferred perfumes with the animal tinctures and check if the mix lasts longer than the original.
    For this we shall make the test on human skin and on the blotters.
    You should make skin test on himself and on at least 3 other persons, in order to have some certainty about the result. Right hand the mix, left hand the original.
    The blotter test requires 2 blotters, one for the mix and the other one for the original. Take care to put the same quantity of fragrance on each blotter. Instead of blotters you can use 2 handkerchiefs.

    The second question we shall try to answer is: do people prefer a perfume with pheromones ?

    Our second to understand this is as follows: You will mix one of your preferred perfumes with the animal tinctures and check if your friends prefer the original one or the mixed one.
    The test is done on friends, using both the skin and blotters.
    Again you should make skin test on himself and on at least 3 other persons, in order to have some certainty about the result. Right hand the mix, left hand the original.
    The blotter test requires 2 blotters, one for the mix and the other one for the original. Take care to put the same quantity of fragrance on each blotter. Instead of blotters you can use 2 handkerchiefs.
  2. agroppe
    agroppe
    Salaam,
    What percentage of the animal tincture to the preferred perfume do you recommend we use (i.e: one part civet to 19 parts perfume base = 5% of the concentration)?
    Thanks in advance friend~
    Alex~
  3. Profumo
    Profumo
    Dear Agroppe, I have been travelling and I am sorry to answer late. Your proposal of proportion is a good idea, but it would be also interesting to understand if the people show a preference to the perfume even with a subliminal presence of pheromone, with a much lower quantity such as 0,1% or 0,5%. And also with a much stronger one, for instance one drop of pheromone for one drop of perfume.
  4. Guest 3
    Guest 3
    I'm still trying to decide what fragrances I want to mix with the pheromones. My apologies, but I don't know people who will let me experiment on their skin around here. If I had family here it would be no problem. They're used to me. My husband won't for sure, as he doesn't like to wear fragrance, though he will give me his opinion of how it smells on my skin. Anyway, I think tonight I will start by sampling either Honey Bee or Hyraceum on its own, while I'm watching television in the dark, to familarize myself with it. Then I will know where I want to go next.
  5. bshell
    bshell
    Dear Dominique, I received the hyraceum and honey bee. Thanks!! That hyraceum is very animalic! It's incredible. Smells like an animal cage at the zoo.

    I have created a fougere perfume of Lavender, Bergamot, Coumarin, Geranium, Rosewood, Vetiver, and Oak moss, in that order of proportion with most first and least at the end. Which of your Hyraceum, Civet, Castoreum or Honey Bee should I try with this? I think Honey Bee would be the least obtrusive, but one of the other ones might make it more "manly". What do you think?
  6. Profumo
    Profumo
    Dear Bshell, any of these will do because the animal scents in this experiment do not need to be perceived as a note in the perfume, it is enough that they be present in the blend and we should observe some effect on it and on the people's perception.
  7. Profumo
    Profumo
    Ciao Lillybelle, as they say in Asia, something better than nothing... make your experiments with blotters.
  8. bshell
    bshell
    FIRST EXPERIMENT RESULT
    I put Hyraceum in one fougere and nothing in the other. Tonight three friends wore a plane fougere with no hyrax on the left wrist and one *with* hyrax on the right wrist. At first, people could not perceive a difference. In fact before the wrist test I made smell strips (one a fougere with hyrax and one without). I gave these to people upside down so that they could not see the label and asked them to describe any differences. About half the time people thought the hyrax was in the one that had no hyrax. So end result is: no difference. However, after an hour or so, you can start to smell the animal scent of the hyrax on the right wrist. Two or three hours later, you cannot smell the left wrist at all. The plane fougere is gone. But on the right wrist with hyrax, all three people could still smell the fougere. And in addition it starts to have an earthy leathery animal smell. Point is: it's there. So the Hyraceum acts as a fixative and strengthener of other odours as well as an odour itselft. I truly learned something tonight.
  9. Profumo
    Profumo
    Dear Bshell, the result seems conclusive but you should veryfy it by checking that the doses of both perfumes are exactly the same and by making the experiment again without telling the people which of the 2 perfumes contains the hyrax and not telling them beforehand that it is an animal ingredient. Just say that one of them has a secret ingredient and ask if they can percieve it and also which of the 2 scents they prefer.
    Very good job, you are the first one to ost your experiment and you deserve a reward, send me your address (profumo@profumo.it) I shall send you "Sharif" my first perfume of the Arabic series, soon to be launched.
  10. Guest 3
    Guest 3
    I tried Honey Bee last night. I could still smell it this morning on my wrists. At first it seemed strange - charred wood, vinegar, and bees' wax. As it dried down I became rather mesmerized by it. The *urinous* note doesn't bother me at all, though I definitely get that. At one point I thought I was smelling floral indoles, as in jasmine or gardenia. So I thought I would combine Honey Bee with a jasmine fragrance. But then I wanted to smell it with something citrussy and tart. I still haven't decided, but I'm going to do my first experiment tomorrow. I would imagine Honey Bee will extend the longevity of any fragrance, given its lifespan on my wrists. I will post my "official" findings later, to the extent that I'm even able to be scientific about this.

    p.s. I asked my husband if he could smell it on my wrists - this was about a couple of hours after application - as he has a sensitive nose, and he said he could only very faintly smell something (he didn't like it or dislike it). But I swear I can still smell it this morning. It got into my nose somehow and lodged there.
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