There has been a culture of Oud that has developed on Basenotes in tha last 3 or 4 years.
Many basenoters have been investing fortunes in their nose buying real Oud from reliable suppliers who know this rare and expensive material and trade in it.
I am working on my Oud perfume, next fragrance of the Arabian series. Those who search for authenticity will not be disappointed as I came across an old lot of Bengali Oud in these times when real Oud has almost disapped from the forests.
I have known and used the Oud essence since my forst visits in Arabia in the seventies, and real unadulterated Oud has almost disappeared from the Arabian market as well.
My idea is to make a Oud perfume like the old Arabian Ouds I have known 20 years ago and more in Mecca and Madinah. An Oud that is plainly Oud but even better than Oud.
I am asking to the friends of the group and Basenoters who are Oud lovers what they will expect from a new Oud perfume that I intend to be the "Ultimate Oud perfume".
I'm glad to hear that you are working on your next great project. I've smelled a few samples of Oud from Enfleurage but not from Oriscent as I was unsure how pure or authentic these actually were (I'm very skeptical about sources that claim to have authentic product until someone with real experience tells me otherwise).
From an Oud perfume I would expect just that... OUD. Give me all the sweet, woody, musky, and dense wet forest aspects of it and I'm happy. Much luck on your journey to make the ultimate Oud fragrance. I have no doubt you'll succeed.
I have smelled the Ouds of Enfleurage when I met Trigve in Oman and I know for sure that they are good. I have not smelled Oriscent. The Basenoters from the Oud group will know for sure who sells the right goods
I have now tried a handful of Oud perfumes and what I find is a huge range. My favourite is one called Borneo. It is (to me) the most complex, changing all day long as you wear it, and lasting for a long long time. Next, I like one that someone sent me called "Oud Al Qasr Mukhallet" which is also very complex and delightful. Then comes one from Cambodia that is also pretty good. Finally, the ones called Assam or Hindi I find to be very "barnyard" and this barnyard smell stays for the whole time. You wish it would dissipate and yield something nicer but it does not. I find when I use a very tiny amount of the better ouds in my perfume mixes it really gives them a terrific boost, and also makes them last a lot longer. In the end, the only thing left is the oud and it's a nice ending.
I'm very excited to see what you do with Oud Dominique, and also what can we do to help?
BTW: recently I wore a bit of your Grezzo d Eleganza and REALLY enjoyed it. It was for a business meeting and made me feel great and perform great all day.
Hello Bshell, the barnyard "animalic" note is typical of the indian varieties. However it should not be only head note and not last. At this stage I would like to have the opinion of Rael Oud fans like you, what would you wish in an Oud perfume that you did not find in the many Oud fragrances launched in the last 3 years?
Oud is definitely a most fascinating topic. There seem to be so very many variations and preferences. In as far as my very limited experience with Oud will let me comment, I would like to see an ultimate Oud perfume that incorporated the forceful and rich aspects of Oud with a gentle aspect, a feminine side to balance the man part. Like the balance of nature. That may be why rose is a classic partner. Maybe with the air of the place it comes from incorporated, so that the perfume evokes not just the Oud, but it's own environment and the people too, all in one smell. Now that would be a tall order.
I had an attempt at an Oud-ish oil last year using various naturals. I arrived at a 'sort of' version, but it is difficult to know how it compares, as the only real agarwood I have is extremely barnyardy, and yes, it is Indian. I have two of the montale oud perfumes.
There are many on this forum who specialise in Ouds, and there would be the place to ask this question if you haven't already. There will be no shortage of opinions I'm sure.
Mumsy, more than rose I would see Tuberose with it, but it should be a subliminal note, like in Mecca Balsam, or else it would be an other Oud perfume, not "Oud better than Oud".
Differently from what we think, plain Oud is a perfume that is traditionally used by womwn as well (the rich ones) in Arabia. I have been surprised to know that. Arabian ladies are strong in character. We imagine them subverdient behind their veil, but it is rather the contrary, they are the ruling queens in the family.
I'm going to get my very stinky Oud and smell it with my rather beautiful tuberose abs and see what that smells like.
I didn't realise the Oud was worn by the women as well. That is a revelation to me. I only have Amouage Gold which I suppose is meant for that league, the ingredients of that are very opulent and rich but surprisingly subtle, like a veil of scent. The idea of the dance of the seven veils may be nice. Seven layers of mystery.
One of my favourite oud perfumes from the past few years has been Mona di Orio's "OUD". It's quite gentle and unexpected for an "oud", yet utterly gorgeous, I found. I especially loved the fact that she DIDN'T go the more traditional route of pairing the Oud with a heavy rose, as is most usually done. (Which though probably the traditional pairing, I just find far too overdone already, and totally unoriginal, to say the least !) ... Mona went with the inspired direction of pairing the Oud with Osmanthus instead, and it worked beautifully. ~ Which leads me to believe that yes, I totally agree with you, I too think that pairing it with Tuberose is a good choice. (I think it would indeed sweeten and enrich the Oud beautifully !)
Regardless of what I'd personally want from an Oud fragrance, (which would be a scent which would smell like one's standing amidst an ancient Aquillaria forest ;o) I think the most important direction to take with your own Oud, due to the fact that the market has quickly become saturated with them and the public are starting to also become jaded with oud frags. I think therefore an element of surprise is really important. So I think something unusual and even quirky or odd, something unexpected, might be the best way forward. ~ (Personally, I'd try find some unusual plant/flower that has either been forgotten or not often (if ever !?) worked with and try incorporate that element too. With so many unusual and never before seen natural extractions entering the market these past years, I'm pretty sure you could find something that is not often (if ever) been used in perfumery before. To help add some added intrigue & interest to the composition. ...
Apart from that, just to highlight the Oud you already have to it's best/most-beautiful degree, would be quite enough. With these elements I'm sure you will have a winner ! ... (I mean just the fact that you will be working with genuine authentic Oud, is already miles ahead of the competition ! ;o)
~ But overall, I think it should smell rich, deep and "ancient".
Dear Salaam, I agree with Sybarite. Add something unusial. I prefer a flower (sorry, but oud suits perfect for women). What do You think about black violet ore orchide? It can be some smell of arabic misterium named something like Black Cristal ore Abyss.
BTW I remembered that I met in exhibition 1 year ago some interesting company www.asiaforestry.biz. I lot of arabian customers visited their stand. They had Cambogian and Tailandian plantation of oud.