A possible age difference in reception

    A possible age difference in reception

    post #1 of 3
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    I was quite surprised by my first experimental results. I obtained answers I was not expecting, with my subjects often preferring the non-animal version saying it smelled 'fresher'. I originally put this down to having used a well balanced perfume Ivoire which did not need any additions. But this didn't make much sense in a way. So much so, that I decided to repeat the whole thing with another perfume.

    I tried again in a less disciplined way with a softer plain vanilla oil and still my subjects preferred in the main, the non-animal versions. Using vanilla, which is an appealing smell to youngsters, I didn't expect this either. I then realised my answers seemed related to the age of the subject tested. The younger the person, the more likely they seemed to be, in my limited experiment, to prefer the non-animal one. There seemed no doubt in the age range I tested of approximately 9 - 12 years that the non-animal was nicer in the case of the Castorium, the Civet especially and the Hyracium, there was more interest and discussion about the Bee, probably because it made the perfume sweeter. In the age range of 12 - 15, there was more of a split of opinion where the decision seemed harder to make. The bee won again, then the others had an equal share of likes and dislikes approx. The much older adults liked the animal ones, but the ladies seemed to like the Civet better than the men who weren't sure. I noticed the men seemed to notice less or no difference to both wrists in most cases than the women. It could have been that they had just got bored with me jamming smells under their noses as they were talking. In this second experiment, my subjects did not see each other choose, there were six cousins and five non-related of 9-15 years, there were 4 related adults and 2 non related, and more or less equal male to female.

    I wondered if the age must make a difference to whether pheremones in perfumes make any difference or actually become offputting to some at certain times.

    All seemed to improve longevity with vanilla, but then it does last a long time anyway. The animalics gave it much more interest, depth and volume.

    What fascinating stuff.
    post #2 of 3
    The receptivity to pheromones and the phisiological responses it brings through smelling them occurs after puberty.
    The receptivity among women will be different according to the time of her cycle, if she is in menopause, and if she is mated and subject to dayly exposure to male pheromones.
    Women who live alone I have noted feel attracted by civet.
    Disturbance or diseases of the endocrine system will also condition the response to pheromones.
    Understanding the reactions of each women to pheromones if I had possibility to ask them a number of things would not be so difficult, it could be understood straight forwardly for 80% of the cases. Investigating the 20% left is what would probably bring real breakthroughs in the medical application of these substances as mood enhancers and cure of endocrine disturbs.
    But this is not the object of our research.
    We are trying to put together basic facts in order to be able to understand if they do or do not have some effects.
    First we tried on the longevity of perfumes, the answer was negative.
    Second we tried on the quality enhancement of the perfume and the response was positive.
    Thirdly we tried on the liking of the people and we are getting some general observations such as yours that help us reach our goal.

    The answer to "do people prefer perfumes with animal pheromones" cannot be answered by a yes or a no. We are now investigating and discovering the parameters. At the end we shall have a much clearer idea of an answer.
    post #3 of 3
    Bascally the parameters that will condition the response to perfumery pheromones in humans are:
    age
    gender
    hormonal situation (menopause, andropause, cycle, endocrine disease or disturbs, mated or not)
    but in humans, unlike with animals, the most important parameter to take into account is the psychological one.
    The psychological effect of a smell depends in great part from the context in which it is perceived.
    This is why the protocol we shall use is the most important thing to have right, it should not only take into account the biology of our sense of smell but also the olfactory psychology.
    You will see that we shall discover new things in the olfactory field through our experiments.
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    6/13/11 at 2:13am

    mumsy said:



    I was quite surprised by my first experimental results. I obtained answers I was not expecting, with my subjects often preferring the non-animal version saying it smelled 'fresher'. I originally put this down to having used a well balanced perfume Ivoire which did not need any additions. But this didn't make much sense in a way. So much so, that I decided to repeat the whole thing with another perfume.

    I tried again in a less disciplined way with a softer plain vanilla oil and still my subjects preferred in the main, the non-animal versions. Using vanilla, which is an appealing smell to youngsters, I didn't expect this either. I then realised my answers seemed related to the age of the subject tested. The younger the person, the more likely they seemed to be, in my limited experiment, to prefer the non-animal one. There seemed no doubt in the age range I tested of approximately 9 - 12 years that the non-animal was nicer in the case of the Castorium, the Civet especially and the Hyracium, there was more interest and discussion about the Bee, probably because it made the perfume sweeter. In the age range of 12 - 15, there was more of a split of opinion where the decision seemed harder to make. The bee won again, then the others had an equal share of likes and dislikes approx. The much older adults liked the animal ones, but the ladies seemed to like the Civet better than the men who weren't sure. I noticed the men seemed to notice less or no difference to both wrists in most cases than the women. It could have been that they had just got bored with me jamming smells under their noses as they were talking. In this second experiment, my subjects did not see each other choose, there were six cousins and five non-related of 9-15 years, there were 4 related adults and 2 non related, and more or less equal male to female.

    I wondered if the age must make a difference to whether pheremones in perfumes make any difference or actually become offputting to some at certain times.

    All seemed to improve longevity with vanilla, but then it does last a long time anyway. The animalics gave it much more interest, depth and volume.

    What fascinating stuff.

    6/13/11 at 3:23am

    Profumo said:



    The receptivity to pheromones and the phisiological responses it brings through smelling them occurs after puberty.
    The receptivity among women will be different according to the time of her cycle, if she is in menopause, and if she is mated and subject to dayly exposure to male pheromones.
    Women who live alone I have noted feel attracted by civet.
    Disturbance or diseases of the endocrine system will also condition the response to pheromones.
    Understanding the reactions of each women to pheromones if I had possibility to ask them a number of things would not be so difficult, it could be understood straight forwardly for 80% of the cases. Investigating the 20% left is what would probably bring real breakthroughs in the medical application of these substances as mood enhancers and cure of endocrine disturbs.
    But this is not the object of our research.
    We are trying to put together basic facts in order to be able to understand if they do or do not have some effects.
    First we tried on the longevity of perfumes, the answer was negative.
    Second we tried on the quality enhancement of the perfume and the response was positive.
    Thirdly we tried on the liking of the people and we are getting some general observations such as yours that help us reach our goal.

    The answer to "do people prefer perfumes with animal pheromones" cannot be answered by a yes or a no. We are now investigating and discovering the parameters. At the end we shall have a much clearer idea of an answer.

    6/13/11 at 3:38am

    Profumo said:



    Bascally the parameters that will condition the response to perfumery pheromones in humans are:
    age
    gender
    hormonal situation (menopause, andropause, cycle, endocrine disease or disturbs, mated or not)
    but in humans, unlike with animals, the most important parameter to take into account is the psychological one.
    The psychological effect of a smell depends in great part from the context in which it is perceived.
    This is why the protocol we shall use is the most important thing to have right, it should not only take into account the biology of our sense of smell but also the olfactory psychology.
    You will see that we shall discover new things in the olfactory field through our experiments.





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