daily allotment of 2 private messages

    daily allotment of 2 private messages

    post #1 of 31
    Thread Starter 

    I just got this message. Is there really such a limit?

     

    You have reached your daily allotment of 2 private messages per day. Note that multiple recipients of the same message each count toward your limit.

    post #2 of 31

    Maybe it's 'cos you're new, Beefy :)

    post #3 of 31

    This is the first I have heard of this. Something must be wrong because that is a nuisance.

    post #4 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lpp View Post

    Maybe it's 'cos you're new, Beefy smile.gif

    This is correct. New users are allowed 2 PMs per day if you have 0 - 2 posts. If you have posted 3 or more times, you will be allowed x + 10 PMs per day where x is your post count. Bottomline: post more on Basenotes to receive a higher PM allotment. cool.gif
    post #5 of 31

    Seems o.k. for existing members, in my experience.

    post #6 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lpp View Post

    Seems o.k. for existing members, in my experience.

    Yes, this only affects brand new members. Existing members with hundreds/thousands of posts will not be affected.
    post #7 of 31

    Cool, after being a member for years I finally "have to" post.

    post #8 of 31

    Sorry, desmosedici, this has been queried in another thread by Martin, but no news as yet.

     

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/372378/mailbox-full-not-really

    post #9 of 31
    Thread Starter 

    This strange rule doesn't make any sense at all. The number of private messages should be unlimited from day 1 you are here.

    post #10 of 31

    It seems particularly unfair to older members who have been reading the site for years, rather than posting, but may participate in other ways.

     

    Given that spammers are normally noticed, it would be interesting to hear the reason.

    I have never personally had any problems with p.m.'s from spammers.

     

    It would be interesting to know the limits for Plus members who don't post much - are they now treated in the same way as others with low post counts?

     

    Also, if p.m. capacity is based on post count, might that encourage more random posting in order to achieve a higher p.m. limit?

    post #11 of 31
    Thread Starter 

    I don't understand the concept of the limitation at all. No competitor has this limit, it just feels wrong. There are much better (technical) solutions to avoid spam.

    post #12 of 31

    Agree - interesting to hear more on this one please?

     

    And most spammers seem to be intercepted under this system at the moment anyway, so it does not appear to be a valid concept.

    post #13 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by huddlersteph View Post


    Yes, this only affects brand new members. Existing members with hundreds/thousands of posts will not be affected.


    Some here are apparently not reading this.

    post #14 of 31

    Apologies - only initially querying it because of Martin's problem as he has been a member since 2003, so the reply was unclear in relation to him

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/372378/mailbox-full-not-really

     

    Assume now that old members with low posts are now treated the same as new ones - thanks for clarifying..

    post #15 of 31

    So a brand new member should just hurry and post "whatever" to get a better Private Message  "allowance" ?  That will sort of flood the already overworked system. 

     

    It does not make sense.

    post #16 of 31

    I think it would be wise to introduce a time-scale as well, if this rule sticks. Something like three months from joining? As we can see, there are some older members who don't post much.

    post #17 of 31

    Never had this problem myself
     

    post #18 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DonVanVliet View Post

    I don't understand the concept of the limitation at all. No competitor has this limit, it just feels wrong. There are much better (technical) solutions to avoid spam.

     

     

    There are lots of forums where there are limits on both being able to send PMs and on posting in various parts of the forum.  I run a very large community forum and we have a minimum post count of 5 before using the PM system at all (which is necessary given the number of spam attacks we have) and both a minimum post count and a minimum registration time before posting in the classifieds, just to reduce the number of people who register more than once to get around the other limits on using the classifieds.

     

    Sadly, this sort of thing is necessary to reduce the impact that spam has on the forum and users generally don't see quite how much impact the spam has when it's sent. 

     

    You may see spammy threads when they are posted, but you're not online 24/7 so however many you see need to multiply up what you see by the time that you aren't around to see it, and of course you won't see spam PMs at all unless you're one of the recipients.

     

    I'm going to speak on behalf of forum managers the world over here.  We would love nothing more than to give truly open access to users to post, discuss, message, laugh and debate just as they wish, but unfortunately everybody's idea of what is appropriate varies and where you find one person wanting to discuss you will also find another who thinks that it's great to wind others up, abuse people, push an inappropriate agenda or sellclass="

    5/17/13 at 3:01pm

    DonVanVliet said:



    I just got this message. Is there really such a limit?

     

    You have reached your daily allotment of 2 private messages per day. Note that multiple recipients of the same message each count toward your limit.

    5/17/13 at 3:33pm

    lpp said:



    Maybe it's 'cos you're new, Beefy :)

    5/17/13 at 3:34pm

    Surfacing said:



    This is the first I have heard of this. Something must be wrong because that is a nuisance.

    5/17/13 at 3:35pm

    huddlersteph said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lpp View Post

    Maybe it's 'cos you're new, Beefy smile.gif

    This is correct. New users are allowed 2 PMs per day if you have 0 - 2 posts. If you have posted 3 or more times, you will be allowed x + 10 PMs per day where x is your post count. Bottomline: post more on Basenotes to receive a higher PM allotment. cool.gif

    5/17/13 at 3:36pm

    lpp said:



    Seems o.k. for existing members, in my experience.

    5/17/13 at 3:38pm

    huddlersteph said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lpp View Post

    Seems o.k. for existing members, in my experience.

    Yes, this only affects brand new members. Existing members with hundreds/thousands of posts will not be affected.

    5/31/13 at 9:28am

    desmosedici said:



    Cool, after being a member for years I finally "have to" post.

    5/31/13 at 9:59am

    lpp said:



    Sorry, desmosedici, this has been queried in another thread by Martin, but no news as yet.

     

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/372378/mailbox-full-not-really

    5/31/13 at 12:53pm

    DonVanVliet said:



    This strange rule doesn't make any sense at all. The number of private messages should be unlimited from day 1 you are here.

    5/31/13 at 1:01pm

    lpp said:



    It seems particularly unfair to older members who have been reading the site for years, rather than posting, but may participate in other ways.

     

    Given that spammers are normally noticed, it would be interesting to hear the reason.

    I have never personally had any problems with p.m.'s from spammers.

     

    It would be interesting to know the limits for Plus members who don't post much - are they now treated in the same way as others with low post counts?

     

    Also, if p.m. capacity is based on post count, might that encourage more random posting in order to achieve a higher p.m. limit?

    5/31/13 at 1:09pm

    DonVanVliet said:



    I don't understand the concept of the limitation at all. No competitor has this limit, it just feels wrong. There are much better (technical) solutions to avoid spam.

    5/31/13 at 1:19pm

    lpp said:



    Agree - interesting to hear more on this one please?

     

    And most spammers seem to be intercepted under this system at the moment anyway, so it does not appear to be a valid concept.

    5/31/13 at 1:52pm

    stuigi said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by huddlersteph View Post


    Yes, this only affects brand new members. Existing members with hundreds/thousands of posts will not be affected.


    Some here are apparently not reading this.

    5/31/13 at 2:01pm

    lpp said:



    Apologies - only initially querying it because of Martin's problem as he has been a member since 2003, so the reply was unclear in relation to him

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/372378/mailbox-full-not-really

     

    Assume now that old members with low posts are now treated the same as new ones - thanks for clarifying..

    5/31/13 at 2:30pm

    Ursula said:



    So a brand new member should just hurry and post "whatever" to get a better Private Message  "allowance" ?  That will sort of flood the already overworked system. 

     

    It does not make sense.

    6/2/13 at 6:52am

    Trebor said:



    I think it would be wise to introduce a time-scale as well, if this rule sticks. Something like three months from joining? As we can see, there are some older members who don't post much.

    6/2/13 at 6:57am

    mccann690 said:



    Never had this problem myself
     

    6/2/13 at 8:25am

    sfmedusa said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DonVanVliet View Post

    I don't understand the concept of the limitation at all. No competitor has this limit, it just feels wrong. There are much better (technical) solutions to avoid spam.

     

     

    There are lots of forums where there are limits on both being able to send PMs and on posting in various parts of the forum.  I run a very large community forum and we have a minimum post count of 5 before using the PM system at all (which is necessary given the number of spam attacks we have) and both a minimum post count and a minimum registration time before posting in the classifieds, just to reduce the number of people who register more than once to get around the other limits on using the classifieds.

     

    Sadly, this sort of thing is necessary to reduce the impact that spam has on the forum and users generally don't see quite how much impact the spam has when it's sent. 

     

    You may see spammy threads when they are posted, but you're not online 24/7 so however many you see need to multiply up what you see by the time that you aren't around to see it, and of course you won't see spam PMs at all unless you're one of the recipients.

     

    I'm going to speak on behalf of forum managers the world over here.  We would love nothing more than to give truly open access to users to post, discuss, message, laugh and debate just as they wish, but unfortunately everybody's idea of what is appropriate varies and where you find one person wanting to discuss you will also find another who thinks that it's great to wind others up, abuse people, push an inappropriate agenda or sellclass="