Questions on men's boots

    Questions on men's boots

    post #1 of 30
    Thread Starter 

    I'm looking to get a pair of boots to wear with jeans. Would like your thoughts as I've never owned a boot in my life. I've narrowed it down to these two:

    Dr. Marten's military boot

    Clark's desert boot

    Thoughts on the style? Comfort? Anything else you can think of for me to consider?

    Thanks!!

    post #2 of 30

    timberland's

    post #3 of 30

    My vote for Clark's desert boots, they still look elegant but informal, and are quite versatile.

    Timberland brings me back to my teen years in Italy in the 80s, when they all of a suddenly became a big hit. I don't think I've worn them since.

    cacio

    post #4 of 30

    I didn't even know BN had a fashion section. COOL!

    I've actually got a lot more experience in this field than I do with fragrances since I took an interest in this a couple years back as opposed to a couple months back.

    First off, let me say I'm biased against Dr. Martens. They thickness of the soles, and the yellow tag, along with their overall construction make them look cheesy to me. I should also add that Dr. Martens have kind of been co-opted by the ladies. I still see men wearing them but I definitely see them more often on women where I live (NYC and the surrounding suburbs).

    Clarks on the other hand are fantastic. They look great, both with jeans and chinos. In fact, I'd say that if you're a bit more avant-garde you could even get away with wearing them with shorts. They're some of the most versatile shoes a man can own, second only to a pair of simple almond brown wingtips. Plus you'll never see a lady wearing Clark's. Desert boots, yes, but rarely is ever real Clark's.

    I had a pair of the Beeswax Clark's a year or so back, and loved them but they fit kind of funky. Be sure to try them on, and definitely size down either a half or a full size as they do run big. I'd recommend beeswax over suede since I think it's a bit more versatile, but either looks great.

    Personally, I don't wear my Clark's anymore because they were a bit too long and because of the length, the crepe sole, while very comfortable, had a habit of getting caught on the ground and making me stumble while I walked. I got myself a pair of grey suede desert boots from Kenneth Cole (yes, grey shoes. they work more often than you'd think, trust me) and I love them to death. So I should point out that Dr. Martens, while not my favorite shoes, are distinctive. You won't find a designer copy-cat unless you're looking for something entirely different altogether. Everybody and their brother makes a pair of desert boots that look and feel roughly the same if not better than Clark's. So if you decide on desert boots (an I think you should) don't limit yourself to Clark's, go to Nordstrom's or Macy's in the fall when they go back on sale and try on desert boots form a few different brands.

    I do have to begrudgingly give Dr. Martens one point over Clark's; They are infinitely more functional. I'd never think to shovel snow or walk the dog in a rain storm while wearing Clark's. Dr. Martens on the other hand could take the abuse and then some. Still ugly as all hell in my opinion.

    And skip Tims. If you decided you wanted a pair of work-boots Timberland offers a great value in terms of combination of form and function, but you'd be infinitely better off getting a pair of Red Wings. Finally pulled the trigger on a pair last fall. The break-in hurts like hell, but once that's over they're comfortable, strong, highly practical, and attractive to boot (pun intended). Because of Red Wing's resoling policy you'll never need another pair of work-boots for the rest of your life. But I digress...

    post #5 of 30
    Thread Starter 

    Wow...very thorough. Thanks!! I'm not looking for a work boot, just something nice that will go with jeans. I had originally kept my research to desert/chukka boots, but when I was trying some on, I put on a couple pairs of military/combat boots and actually kind of liked the feel of the height.

    post #6 of 30
    Black Ropers from Justin Boots, you can't go wrong with those.
    post #7 of 30
    Thread Starter 

    Yeah...sorry...no cowboy boots. Just don't fit my personality. I'm more of a chukka/desert guy or a military/combat guy. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

    post #8 of 30
    Doc Martens.

    I rocked a few in the mid 90s when I was a teen.
    post #9 of 30

    Clarks Desert Boots are pretty great (I have a few pairs), but watch out for the sizing -- they run a good 1/2 size too big. Also, if you're looking at similar desert boots, check out Varvatos "Hipster Chukka." He might put out horrific, janky fragrances, but his boots are super comfy!

    post #10 of 30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by deadidolView Post

    Clarks Desert Boots are pretty great (I have a few pairs), but watch out for the sizing -- they run a good 1/2 size too big. Also, if you're looking at similar desert boots, check out Varvatos "Hipster Chukka." He might put out horrific, janky fragrances, but his boots are super comfy!

    I happen to think Mr. Varavtos' fragrances are quite nice for the most part. Especially Artisan and the original. The longevity and projection just suck. I actually still use the John Varvatos deoderant because 1. it works on me when nothing from the drug store seems to, and 2. it's soft smeling enough that it doesn't clash with whatever scent I'm wearing.

    I do second the recommendation for the Hipster Chukka though.

    post #11 of 30
    Thread Starter 

    I actually tried on a Varvatos Barrett boot today that I liked quite nicely...but they only had a 1/2 size too big. My question about Varvatos boots: How are they (long term) on your feet--specifically the arch and heel?

    *side note: I like, but don't love Varvatos frags--except Vintage. I thoroughly enjoy that one...and it lasts all day for me.

    post #12 of 30
    The boots I have from him are some of the most comfortable I've ever owned. More comfortable than the Clarks. They fit perfectly, and I can wear them all day with no issues. I love them!








    p.s. his perfumes reek.
    post #13 of 30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by deadidolView Post

    The boots I have from him are some of the most comfortable I've ever owned. More comfortable than the Clarks. They fit perfectly, and I can wear them all day with no issues. I love them!








    p.s. his perfumes reek.

    Ignoring your bottom comment (I have a soft spot for John Varvatos classic, it was my signature for over a year before I started getting into scents) could you please clarify whether your boots are John Varvatos Collection or Star U.S.A.? Because there is a noticeable difference between the two.

    John Varvatos happens to be one of if not my favorite brands for clothes but most of what I own of his is from the Star U.S.A. line since the collection line is just so pricey. Even Star U.S.A. costs a pretty penny but it's nothing like the collection. Still, a leather jacket I got off eBay from his collection line is one of my prized possessions, but I digress. The point is I have a fair bit of experience with the brand.

    In general, while the Star U.S.A. line is of decent quality (I'm actually wearing a pair of their slip-on boat shoes right now that I use as slippers) the shoes are made in China. They're nice, but they're quite honestly not worth their retail price. His stuff tends to go on sale twice a year, once around the end of spring/beginning of summer (so right now) and once right after thanksgiving and when the Star U.S.A. stuff is going for sale prices it's totally worth it.

    The Collection stuff on the other hand is on a totally different level. Despite the fact that he's an American designer almost all the shoes are made in Italy of the highest quality leather. They're simply beautiful, but this comes at a hefty cost. The Star U.S.A. stuff isn't cheap, and the collection stuff is more than twice as expensive as the Star U.S.A. Still, I'd argue that you're getting better bang for your buck from the collection line since the shoes are of such high quality.

    post #14 of 30

    hedonist:

    Military boots in UAE scare me... It's like when you saw the pics of those US generals in the Iraq war when they were meeting locals - sitting on the carpets with their boots on. It wasn't really a sign of disrespect. You simply did not want them to take off their boots...

    But then, all places are air conditioned in UAE.

    cacio

    post #15 of 30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Teach13View Post

    I actually tried on a Varvatos Barrett boot today that I liked quite nicely...but they only had a 1/2 size too big. My question about Varvatos boots: How are they (long term) on your feet--specifically the arch and heel?

    *side note: I like, but don't love Varvatos frags--except Vintage. I thoroughly enjoy that one...and it lasts all day for me.

    The JV chukkas that I have look awesome but are not very comfortable. Maybe I havent worn them enough to break them in. I cant beleive they would ever be as comfortable as Clarks though.

    I also have these Timberlands which I can walk around in for hours with very little foot fatigue-

    http://www.amazon.com/Timberland-Mens-Earthkeepers-Boot-Premium/dp/B001VNCKUI/ref=pd_sbs_shoe_3

    post #16 of 30
    Thread Starter 

    The Varvatos boots that I liked were called Barrett's (for what it's worth).

    Okay...I don't have a lot of decent shoe store options around here, but I played around a bit today. Here's what I think I've decided: I consistently like leather boots with a little height to them...and a lower suede. I also wasn't a huge fan of where the Clarks hit on my Achilles. Even when I had the right size, they really pinched/rubbed where the shoe met my Achilles. Crazy-comfortable everywhere else though.

    Thoughts/suggestions? Like I said, I'm not looking for work boots...I'm looking for comfortable, casual boots to wear with jeans. Right now, my thought is a black leather boot w/some height and a brown suede chukka (if I can find one that doesn't rub my Achilles raw).

    post #17 of 30
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