room diffucer fragrance making

    room diffucer fragrance making

    post #1 of 10
    Thread Starter 

    Hi,

    could i kindly know a basic formula to make a reed diffuser fragrance bottle?i did it just using essential oil but it does not work. 1. the reeds don't absorb the oil swiftly. 2. the oil does not evaporate fast through air.

    what other bases/chemicals/solvents should i add to the essential oil to make this work?

    highly appreciate your advise on this. thank you.

    AnuEd

    post #2 of 10

    you can use, AnuEd, Isopropyl Myristate like main carrier for aromatic essences, in 50-70 percent, with 50-30 percent EO. Or use 20-30 percent alcohol (90 and more), 20-30 percent IM, 40-50 percent essesntial oils, CO2 and absolutes. Look for basic info here: http://www.basenotes.net/t/158437/primer-on-how-to-make-perfume-version-1-0 smiley.gif

    post #3 of 10

    Iso Propyl Myristate is the wrong solvent for use with reed diffusers, as it isn't very volatile it won't work. The best solvent to use for this application is a mixture of Dowanol DPM and Dowanol TPM (available from Dow). DPM is more volatile than TPM so, depending on your fragrance you can adjust accordingly. Use 20.0% fragrance concentrate, and 80.0% Dowanol

    post #4 of 10
    Thread Starter 

    Remute and David,

    Thank you so very much for both your responses. I will try them out and WILL revert on the update on this thread.

    AnuEd

    post #5 of 10
    Thread Starter 

    David,

    if i'm unable to find the exact DOW DPM (as i live in south asia), is it suggested to use any glycol ether in the market?

    if so pls be kind enough to let me know.

    AnuEd

    post #6 of 10

    Thank you, David. Now I know that I need Dovanol... Simply I have IM and use it, little more "natural" solvent and available in many shops for DIY cosmetic makers.

    post #7 of 10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AnuEdView Post

    David,

    if i'm unable to find the exact DOW DPM (as i live in south asia), is it suggested to use any glycol ether in the market?

    if so pls be kind enough to let me know.

    AnuEd

    I don't know how common the Dowanols are, if you cannot find them you could try Carbitol which is a very widely used solvent.

    post #8 of 10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RamuteView Post

    Thank you, David. Now I know that I need Dovanol... Simply I have IM and use it, little more "natural" solvent and available in many shops for DIY cosmetic makers.

    IPM is good for cosmetics, no good for reed diffusers.

    post #9 of 10
    Thread Starter 

    Hi David,

    today i finished making the first diffuser liquid. now the supplier gave me a substitute for Carbitol which was Di Ethylene Glycol (DEG). i mixed it according to your ratio which was 20% essential oil and 80% of DEG.

    for the EO what i used was a blend of lemon grass and citronella. there was a fragrance emitting once the reeds were put. but i'm not sure whether it was strong enough. also on the top layer of the liquid, there was a red powdery substance. i presume there was slight imbalance in the ratio. for you analysis, herewith i have attached the image of the red substance. is there anything i'm wrong here? what can further change to make it work?

    really need your help on this David. appreciate it very much.

    post #10 of 10

    I do not know DEG, but looking at the photograph you have it isn't any good; certainly not a substitute for Carbitol. DEG is probably too polar for this type of product. Clearly the Essential Oils you are using are not soluble in the DEG; you should try to get some Carbitol or even better Dowanol DPM.

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    6/15/13 at 2:51am

    AnuEd said:



    Hi,

    could i kindly know a basic formula to make a reed diffuser fragrance bottle?i did it just using essential oil but it does not work. 1. the reeds don't absorb the oil swiftly. 2. the oil does not evaporate fast through air.

    what other bases/chemicals/solvents should i add to the essential oil to make this work?

    highly appreciate your advise on this. thank you.

    AnuEd

    6/15/13 at 3:10am

    Ramute said:



    you can use, AnuEd, Isopropyl Myristate like main carrier for aromatic essences, in 50-70 percent, with 50-30 percent EO. Or use 20-30 percent alcohol (90 and more), 20-30 percent IM, 40-50 percent essesntial oils, CO2 and absolutes. Look for basic info here: http://www.basenotes.net/t/158437/primer-on-how-to-make-perfume-version-1-0 smiley.gif

    6/15/13 at 3:26am

    David Ruskin said:



    Iso Propyl Myristate is the wrong solvent for use with reed diffusers, as it isn't very volatile it won't work. The best solvent to use for this application is a mixture of Dowanol DPM and Dowanol TPM (available from Dow). DPM is more volatile than TPM so, depending on your fragrance you can adjust accordingly. Use 20.0% fragrance concentrate, and 80.0% Dowanol

    6/15/13 at 3:28am

    AnuEd said:



    Remute and David,

    Thank you so very much for both your responses. I will try them out and WILL revert on the update on this thread.

    AnuEd

    6/15/13 at 3:35am

    AnuEd said:



    David,

    if i'm unable to find the exact DOW DPM (as i live in south asia), is it suggested to use any glycol ether in the market?

    if so pls be kind enough to let me know.

    AnuEd

    6/15/13 at 3:54am

    Ramute said:



    Thank you, David. Now I know that I need Dovanol... Simply I have IM and use it, little more "natural" solvent and available in many shops for DIY cosmetic makers.

    6/15/13 at 4:42am

    David Ruskin said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AnuEdView Post

    David,

    if i'm unable to find the exact DOW DPM (as i live in south asia), is it suggested to use any glycol ether in the market?

    if so pls be kind enough to let me know.

    AnuEd

    I don't know how common the Dowanols are, if you cannot find them you could try Carbitol which is a very widely used solvent.

    6/15/13 at 4:42am

    David Ruskin said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RamuteView Post

    Thank you, David. Now I know that I need Dovanol... Simply I have IM and use it, little more "natural" solvent and available in many shops for DIY cosmetic makers.

    IPM is good for cosmetics, no good for reed diffusers.

    6/21/13 at 9:07am

    AnuEd said:



    Hi David,

    today i finished making the first diffuser liquid. now the supplier gave me a substitute for Carbitol which was Di Ethylene Glycol (DEG). i mixed it according to your ratio which was 20% essential oil and 80% of DEG.

    for the EO what i used was a blend of lemon grass and citronella. there was a fragrance emitting once the reeds were put. but i'm not sure whether it was strong enough. also on the top layer of the liquid, there was a red powdery substance. i presume there was slight imbalance in the ratio. for you analysis, herewith i have attached the image of the red substance. is there anything i'm wrong here? what can further change to make it work?

    really need your help on this David. appreciate it very much.

    6/21/13 at 11:11am

    David Ruskin said:



    I do not know DEG, but looking at the photograph you have it isn't any good; certainly not a substitute for Carbitol. DEG is probably too polar for this type of product. Clearly the Essential Oils you are using are not soluble in the DEG; you should try to get some Carbitol or even better Dowanol DPM.





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