The big, big question

    The big, big question

    Poll Results: Which one, of these fashion houses, has been the most influential in fragance industry's history?

    Poll expired: Jul 1, 2013  
    • 88% (8)
      Chanel
    • 11% (1)
      Christian Dior
    • 0% (0)
      Yves Saint Laurent
    9 Total Votes  
    post #1 of 20
    Thread Starter 

    About a month ago, I watched in DVD L'amour fou, about YSL. Impressive film from Pierre Thoretton with very loft and meditative music by Come Aguiar. This film, that also could be named From Beauty to Cash (or cashes) has very nice features. I will also comment two: is a harsh declaration of individualism (YSL talent was the only force that originated all of  what happened to he brand) and second, Pierre BergĂ© had the guts to show himself in a very ambiguous way. He could be viewed as a detachment's hero the same as a free rider in all senses. Some YSL fragances as Opium had their part in the movie...

     

    Well, the big question is this: which of the next three houses have influenced the fragance industry the most.

     

    Chanel: No 5, Cuir de Russie...

    Chistian Dior: Farenheit, Diorella,...

    YSL: Opium, Kourus,...

     

    And, Why?


    Edited by Papi Le Bon - 6/25/13 at 5:58pm
    post #2 of 20

    Chanel I think has been around the longest

    post #3 of 20

    No Guerlain??? Thats the most influential IMHO...

     

    In its absence, voted for Chanel...

    post #4 of 20
    What about Coty, the great grandfather of modern perfumery itself? And Guerlain?
    post #5 of 20

    Within the three, my vote for Chanel, mostly because it's been around the longest and had a great influence on marketing of fragrances. As you say, YSL had a big influence with Opium, both in terms of smell, with the heavy oriental craze of the 80s, and in terms of marketing.

     

    But I concur with the previous posters, if one were to look to all brands, Coty and Guerlain certainly had bigger impact on perfumery.

     

    cacio

    post #6 of 20
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by badarun View Post

    No Guerlain??? Thats the most influential IMHO...

    In its absence, voted for Chanel...

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by treeman5823 View Post

    What about Coty, the great grandfather to modern perfumery itself? And Guerlain?

    You are right, Coty and Guerlain are very influential, no doubts about it, but these three are fashion houses, that gave to the fragance industry a new, broader dimension.
    post #7 of 20
    So a house must specifically be a fashion house to be important in perfumery?
    post #8 of 20
    Thread Starter 
    No but until recent, perfume's creator are influential in a broader sense. You can't compare the influence of anyone with the impact of Coco Chanel, Chistian Dior or YSL had in the way society have seen itself. The link between fashion and fragrance world was as gunpowder and fire.

    But I can put it more simple: the poll aims only to designer's fragances.
    post #9 of 20

    I saw the YSL documentary(L'amour fou) last week...I think it was aired on the Sundance.   Highly recommended.

    post #10 of 20
    Just one more point: Coco Chanel had a direct impact on fashion, not perfume. You seem to be confusing fashion and perfumery, which, though not mutually exclusive, are distinct entities. In many cases, perfumers are just as--if not more--important than the brands that house them; look at Ernest Beaux, Jacques Guerlain, Edmond Roudnitska, Jean Paul Guerlain, Bertrand Duchaufour, Jean Claude Ellena, Bernard Chant, Patricia de Nicolai, etc. To say that Thierry Hermes's aesthetic regarding leather products had supreme influence on Ellena's foray into novelle parfumerie, for instance, is silly.
    post #11 of 20
    Thread Starter 
    [quote name="treeman5823" url="/t/375702/...In many cases, perfumers are just as--if not more--important than the brands that house them; look at Ernest Beaux, Jacques Guerlain, Edmond Roudnitska, Jean Paul Guerlain, Bertrand Duchaufour, Jean Claude Ellena, Bernard Chant, Patricia de Nicolai, etc...[/quote]

    These names are well known here in BN, means a lot here, but their creations were relevant because they were packaged in a Chanel, CD or YSL, full of social meaning.
    post #12 of 20
    Papi le Bon, I couldn't disagree more.
    post #13 of 20
    With that logic, Missoni (the perfume) cannot be great because Missoni (the brand) is not as prestigious or well-developed as Chanel. Greatness can be found in strange places.
    post #14 of 20

    Chanel

    post #15 of 20
    Thread Starter 
    Ok, Missoni is less influential in the frag's industry...
    post #16 of 20
    Dior
    post #17 of 20

    Chanel
     

    post #18 of 20




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