Armani Prive to relaunch

    Armani Prive to relaunch

    post #1 of 22
    Thread Starter 

    If you missed some of these scents and the lovely bottles, it appears they are coming out again:

    http://www.neimanmarcus.com/category.jsp?masterId=cat000285&itemId=cat10470832&cmCat=cat000000cat000285cat10470744&parentId=cat10470744

    post #2 of 22
    Were they discontinued?

    They've been readily available here.
    post #3 of 22
    I think they were removed for a while from their offerings in that line. Glad to know they're back.
    post #4 of 22

    Thanks for the info.

    post #5 of 22

    I didn't know they were discontinued. I can find them here.

    post #6 of 22

    I'm thinking that they have all been reformulated to sell in the U.S.

    They were taken off the U.S. market just about the time the newest IFRA regs were being handed down. That's when perfumers started scrambling to reformulate their wares again.

    Now they are back.....and under the new rules, regs & IFRA guidelines.

    There was no reason to discontinue them here in the States.....unless they didn't meet the new standards. They were popular. Especially Encens.

    post #7 of 22

    good info

    post #8 of 22

    Aside from the IFRA reg changes, the description for the Bois d'Encens relaunch product now mentions Kyphi.

    Quoted from NM site:

    "It is a rebirth of the mystery of the oldest known perfume in the world, Kyphi, created by the Egyptians some 4,000 years ago."

    That is a big difference from the earlier blurb of the 'memories of childhood'....and ...'smells in cathedrals.'

    The Original Bois d' Encens boasted of just 5 ingredients which used to be accurately and specifically described, listed on the Armani (EU) site.

    Just before discontinuing here in the states, only 3 were given: vetiver, frankincense, woods (vague). No mention of kyphi-Egyptian anything.

    Kyphi, is a specific scent with specific ingredients. There are different historical recipes for this particular incense scent. To get the specific Kyphi scent all basic recipes called for red wine, honey, raisins. None of that was detected in the Original!

    Other ingredients (smells) were added and the kyphi incense could also contain:

    sweet flag, saffron, sandalwood, aloeswood, frankincense, mastic, benzoin, cardamom seeds, galangal root, lemongrass, rose petals, juniper berry, cinnamon, cedar. benzoin, labdanum.

    The new relaunch description of Kyphi alone is a big red flag for me! I still have bottles of the Original and think it will be interesting to compare this new version of the juice to the older one.

    I hope that they didn't ruin a good thing. Then again, usually all reformulations ruin what was a once great perfume.

    post #9 of 22
    Interesting.

    The line has stayed in place here but will be interesting to see if there are changes. I have Bois d'Encens, too - will see if the new one turns up and give it a sniff smile.gif

    I still sorta wish I had bought La Femme Bleue when it was around in 2010 or 11 - the memory of that beautiful 'night time iris in Paris' still haunts me. The price was a bit silly, though.
    post #10 of 22

    I like the bottles only

    Very disappointing for me especially at those prices

    post #11 of 22

    I dropped by Maison Francis Kurkdijan and the SA told me that the new MFK fragrance Aqua Vitaewas actually pitched to be the armani prive but it lost out to the current formula released

    post #12 of 22
    Rose d'Arabie and Vetiver Babylone are both excellent to my nose. Very tempting.

    Anybody who loves TF Noir de Noir and can't find it, would do well to check out Rose d'Arabie. I may even like it better than NdN.
    post #13 of 22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck PerfumistoView Post

    Rose d'Arabie and Vetiver Babylone are both excellent to my nose. Very tempting.

    Anybody who loves TF Noir de Noir and can't find it, would do well to check out Rose d'Arabie. I may even like it better than NdN.

    Agree. I find by Kilian Rose Oud to be fairly similar to Rose d'Arabie also. I love the whole Armani Prive line.
    post #14 of 22
    My wallet is crying!
    post #15 of 22

    i found Maison Francis Kurkdjan's Silk Mood which is a rose oud to be much better than kilian's rose oud. Truly one of the best

    post #16 of 22
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Meow7View Post

    I'm thinking that they have all been reformulated to sell in the U.S.

    They were taken off the U.S. market just about the time the newest IFRA regs were being handed down. That's when perfumers started scrambling to reformulate their wares again.

    Now they are back.....and under the new rules, regs & IFRA guidelines.

    There was no reason to discontinue them here in the States.....unless they didn't meet the new standards. They were popular. Especially Encens.

    What a shame. The older versions were the 50ml refills with the fake gemstone bottles. I liked the refill bottle concept.

    The new 100 ml relaunches cannot be refilled.

    post #17 of 22

    I tried Vetiver Babylone in a House of Fraser store last week and couldn't help but think that this is very closely related to Declaration by Cartier.

    post #18 of 22
    Agree that Rose d'Arabie is very alike Noir De Noir. They are both masterpieces but I bought the Armani bevause of the price-difference.

    In januari I bought 100ml Rose d'Arabie for 155 € in Antwerp, Belgium.

    The Noir De Noir was 180 € for 50 ml in the same shop.

    When I went to Turkey this summer I say that Rose d'Arabie was already 185 € in the tax free shop.

    Now it's 217 € retail ???

    Glad I have mine but it will be the last from that line.
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    7/5/13 at 12:14pm

    Primrose said:



    If you missed some of these scents and the lovely bottles, it appears they are coming out again:

    http://www.neimanmarcus.com/category.jsp?masterId=cat000285&itemId=cat10470832&cmCat=cat000000cat000285cat10470744&parentId=cat10470744

    7/5/13 at 12:47pm

    hedonist222 said:



    Were they discontinued?

    They've been readily available here.

    7/5/13 at 1:44pm

    hednic said:



    I think they were removed for a while from their offerings in that line. Glad to know they're back.

    7/5/13 at 3:12pm

    sjg3839 said:



    Thanks for the info.

    7/12/13 at 6:48pm

    ScentBound said:



    I didn't know they were discontinued. I can find them here.

    7/22/13 at 5:30am

    Meow7 said:



    I'm thinking that they have all been reformulated to sell in the U.S.

    They were taken off the U.S. market just about the time the newest IFRA regs were being handed down. That's when perfumers started scrambling to reformulate their wares again.

    Now they are back.....and under the new rules, regs & IFRA guidelines.

    There was no reason to discontinue them here in the States.....unless they didn't meet the new standards. They were popular. Especially Encens.

    7/22/13 at 6:53am

    Tony T said:



    good info

    7/22/13 at 9:53am

    Meow7 said:



    Aside from the IFRA reg changes, the description for the Bois d'Encens relaunch product now mentions Kyphi.

    Quoted from NM site:

    "It is a rebirth of the mystery of the oldest known perfume in the world, Kyphi, created by the Egyptians some 4,000 years ago."

    That is a big difference from the earlier blurb of the 'memories of childhood'....and ...'smells in cathedrals.'

    The Original Bois d' Encens boasted of just 5 ingredients which used to be accurately and specifically described, listed on the Armani (EU) site.

    Just before discontinuing here in the states, only 3 were given: vetiver, frankincense, woods (vague). No mention of kyphi-Egyptian anything.

    Kyphi, is a specific scent with specific ingredients. There are different historical recipes for this particular incense scent. To get the specific Kyphi scent all basic recipes called for red wine, honey, raisins. None of that was detected in the Original!

    Other ingredients (smells) were added and the kyphi incense could also contain:

    sweet flag, saffron, sandalwood, aloeswood, frankincense, mastic, benzoin, cardamom seeds, galangal root, lemongrass, rose petals, juniper berry, cinnamon, cedar. benzoin, labdanum.

    The new relaunch description of Kyphi alone is a big red flag for me! I still have bottles of the Original and think it will be interesting to compare this new version of the juice to the older one.

    I hope that they didn't ruin a good thing. Then again, usually all reformulations ruin what was a once great perfume.

    7/22/13 at 10:09am

    mr. reasonable said:



    Interesting.

    The line has stayed in place here but will be interesting to see if there are changes. I have Bois d'Encens, too - will see if the new one turns up and give it a sniff smile.gif

    I still sorta wish I had bought La Femme Bleue when it was around in 2010 or 11 - the memory of that beautiful 'night time iris in Paris' still haunts me. The price was a bit silly, though.

    7/22/13 at 10:24am

    Kaern said:



    I like the bottles only

    Very disappointing for me especially at those prices

    8/12/13 at 12:03pm

    colourblind said:



    I dropped by Maison Francis Kurkdijan and the SA told me that the new MFK fragrance Aqua Vitaewas actually pitched to be the armani prive but it lost out to the current formula released

    8/14/13 at 8:51pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    Rose d'Arabie and Vetiver Babylone are both excellent to my nose. Very tempting.

    Anybody who loves TF Noir de Noir and can't find it, would do well to check out Rose d'Arabie. I may even like it better than NdN.

    8/14/13 at 8:53pm

    dougczar said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck PerfumistoView Post

    Rose d'Arabie and Vetiver Babylone are both excellent to my nose. Very tempting.

    Anybody who loves TF Noir de Noir and can't find it, would do well to check out Rose d'Arabie. I may even like it better than NdN.

    Agree. I find by Kilian Rose Oud to be fairly similar to Rose d'Arabie also. I love the whole Armani Prive line.

    8/14/13 at 9:49pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    My wallet is crying!

    8/14/13 at 11:47pm

    colourblind said:



    i found Maison Francis Kurkdjan's Silk Mood which is a rose oud to be much better than kilian's rose oud. Truly one of the best

    8/19/13 at 11:53am

    Primrose said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Meow7View Post

    I'm thinking that they have all been reformulated to sell in the U.S.

    They were taken off the U.S. market just about the time the newest IFRA regs were being handed down. That's when perfumers started scrambling to reformulate their wares again.

    Now they are back.....and under the new rules, regs & IFRA guidelines.

    There was no reason to discontinue them here in the States.....unless they didn't meet the new standards. They were popular. Especially Encens.

    What a shame. The older versions were the 50ml refills with the fake gemstone bottles. I liked the refill bottle concept.

    The new 100 ml relaunches cannot be refilled.

    8/20/13 at 1:25am

    rum said:



    I tried Vetiver Babylone in a House of Fraser store last week and couldn't help but think that this is very closely related to Declaration by Cartier.

    8/20/13 at 1:15pm

    TLS said:



    Agree that Rose d'Arabie is very alike Noir De Noir. They are both masterpieces but I bought the Armani bevause of the price-difference.

    In januari I bought 100ml Rose d'Arabie for 155 € in Antwerp, Belgium.

    The Noir De Noir was 180 € for 50 ml in the same shop.

    When I went to Turkey this summer I say that Rose d'Arabie was already 185 € in the tax free shop.

    Now it's 217 € retail ???

    Glad I have mine but it will be the last from that line.