First attempt at a perfume

    First attempt at a perfume

    post #1 of 9
    Thread Starter 

    Hi DIY community! Today I decided to create my own version of molecule 01, with some added limonene, citral, linalool, and citronellol for a citrus note.

    Here's where you all might start to shun me.

    I began with 9ml of 91% rubbing alcohol, and mixed it with 3ml of isopropyl myristate. The remaining 3ml was all the above in even quantities, mixed with iso e super. For a total 15ml.

    IS rubbing alcohol really that bad for this sort of thing? the end result is clear with a very slight gold tinge. I'm only 19 so everclear is not really an option for me. I also made a batch of straight iso e super diluted to %33 BV. Using IPM and 91% rubbing alcohol.

    Can I get away with using only IPM? Do I need rubbing alcohol? It's not exactly projecting, and to me ISo E super on the drydown smells reminescent of a *very* light wet cedar, almost a sweet cedar. Though I only notice it when my nose is buried in my wrist. Is this just how my skin reacts to it? The top/mid notes last a decent amount of time, maybe an hour and a half, but the base that remains just seems ever so slight, I don't see how anyone could smell it. I can smell it every time my nose is right over the area, but I've never been capable of smelling it on my wrist from a distance like one could do with some of the other colognes. Is my nose just that burned out on the stuff, or is it genuinely that light of a scent? OR, is the rubbing alcohol evaporating too quickly?

    Thanks for reading this, I understand that the rubbing alcohol may be the problem, but I just need to know if I can place it in straight IPM and get better results, or if I should continue what I'm doing, or get someone who is 21 to buy me some everclear, or if anyone knows of a better method.

    Thanks for the help.

    post #2 of 9

    Rubbing alcohol is about 70.0% alcohol which can be iso Propyl Alcohol or Ethanol. In either case it has a strong smell. If your mix is soluble in it then that is fine, although I am surprised that it is. I'm not sure why you are using Iso Propyl Myristate. IPM is used in Perfumery, mainly in cosmetic products, and Candles. It is not very volatile, but a good solvent. It will not help the projection of your mix, however. Just using IPM will result in an even less volatile product.

    The perfume bit of your mix makes up 20.0% by volume of the total. You say that there are equal amounts of the five materials you use, so each of them, is 4.0%. 4.0% Iso E Super should be detectable, and I bet that others can smell it on you. If you want more Iso E effect, add more to your mix. I think Molecule 01 is 15.0%

    post #3 of 9

    Regarding Molecule 01 DIY, percentages ISO E, and the way one can / can't smell it during evaporation, are discussed many times in this section.

    Should-reads on this topic:http://www.basenotes.net/newsearch?advanced=1&action=disp&search=molecule+01&titleonly=0&byuser=&output=all&containingforum%5B%5D=15&replycompare=gt&numupdates=&sdate=0&newer=1&sort=relevance&order=descending&Search=SEARCH

    post #4 of 9

    But really you should NOT use rubbing alcohol for perfumery, it simply won't smell good.

    Your best bet if you are 19 (and in the USA) and want to be "legal" will probably be to do an oil based perfume, or to find a place in the States that sells "perfumers alcohol" (also discussed at length elsewhere, and in a sticky above). I could help you if you were in Europe.

    Don't be discouraged though, keep trying and you will find what you need! It's all about the journey, and in this hobby a lot of the journey is "procurement".

    post #5 of 9
    Thread Starter 

    Alright, thanks guys! I 'll keep my eyes peeled for perfumer's alcohol and if none turns up, I'll head towards making oil based perfumes. I found a seller of perfumer's alcohol, although it is $40/ liter.

    post #6 of 9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BartacusView Post

    Alright, thanks guys! I 'll keep my eyes peeled for perfumer's alcohol and if none turns up, I'll head towards making oil based perfumes. I found a seller of perfumer's alcohol, although it is $40/ liter.
    saveonscents.com sells it for a reasonable price in smaller amounts, and you shouldn't have any issues getting some from them smile.gif
    post #7 of 9

    http://www.saveonscents.com/product_info.php/products_id/3571

    16oz perfumers alcohol for under 9 bucks, before shipping...

    use that.

    Lose the Isopropyl alcohol in your mix, but use it to clean up with. That's what I use to clean my lab with.

    Lose the IPM, unless you use it for a solvent for a thick material.

    Add some Hedione to your mix too, it will help you to smell the others by making the blend more lively diffusive.

    Shun? Of course not, Newbie... :-)

    post #8 of 9

    We're not going to shun you when you've come to play with us in DIY. Perfumery is about fun and experimentation. You have done is something creative about your passion and have asked for some advice. What better a start could there be? Plenty more fun where that came in. Shout every time you want a hand and soon you will be as addicted to this sort of fun as we are.

    post #9 of 9
    Thread Starter 

    Alright! I won't hesitate to ask if I need help with something.

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    7/14/13 at 9:15pm

    Bartacus said:



    Hi DIY community! Today I decided to create my own version of molecule 01, with some added limonene, citral, linalool, and citronellol for a citrus note.

    Here's where you all might start to shun me.

    I began with 9ml of 91% rubbing alcohol, and mixed it with 3ml of isopropyl myristate. The remaining 3ml was all the above in even quantities, mixed with iso e super. For a total 15ml.

    IS rubbing alcohol really that bad for this sort of thing? the end result is clear with a very slight gold tinge. I'm only 19 so everclear is not really an option for me. I also made a batch of straight iso e super diluted to %33 BV. Using IPM and 91% rubbing alcohol.

    Can I get away with using only IPM? Do I need rubbing alcohol? It's not exactly projecting, and to me ISo E super on the drydown smells reminescent of a *very* light wet cedar, almost a sweet cedar. Though I only notice it when my nose is buried in my wrist. Is this just how my skin reacts to it? The top/mid notes last a decent amount of time, maybe an hour and a half, but the base that remains just seems ever so slight, I don't see how anyone could smell it. I can smell it every time my nose is right over the area, but I've never been capable of smelling it on my wrist from a distance like one could do with some of the other colognes. Is my nose just that burned out on the stuff, or is it genuinely that light of a scent? OR, is the rubbing alcohol evaporating too quickly?

    Thanks for reading this, I understand that the rubbing alcohol may be the problem, but I just need to know if I can place it in straight IPM and get better results, or if I should continue what I'm doing, or get someone who is 21 to buy me some everclear, or if anyone knows of a better method.

    Thanks for the help.

    7/15/13 at 2:13am

    David Ruskin said:



    Rubbing alcohol is about 70.0% alcohol which can be iso Propyl Alcohol or Ethanol. In either case it has a strong smell. If your mix is soluble in it then that is fine, although I am surprised that it is. I'm not sure why you are using Iso Propyl Myristate. IPM is used in Perfumery, mainly in cosmetic products, and Candles. It is not very volatile, but a good solvent. It will not help the projection of your mix, however. Just using IPM will result in an even less volatile product.

    The perfume bit of your mix makes up 20.0% by volume of the total. You say that there are equal amounts of the five materials you use, so each of them, is 4.0%. 4.0% Iso E Super should be detectable, and I bet that others can smell it on you. If you want more Iso E effect, add more to your mix. I think Molecule 01 is 15.0%

    7/15/13 at 3:05am

    jsparla said:



    Regarding Molecule 01 DIY, percentages ISO E, and the way one can / can't smell it during evaporation, are discussed many times in this section.

    Should-reads on this topic:http://www.basenotes.net/newsearch?advanced=1&action=disp&search=molecule+01&titleonly=0&byuser=&output=all&containingforum%5B%5D=15&replycompare=gt&numupdates=&sdate=0&newer=1&sort=relevance&order=descending&Search=SEARCH

    7/15/13 at 3:15am

    gecko214 said:



    But really you should NOT use rubbing alcohol for perfumery, it simply won't smell good.

    Your best bet if you are 19 (and in the USA) and want to be "legal" will probably be to do an oil based perfume, or to find a place in the States that sells "perfumers alcohol" (also discussed at length elsewhere, and in a sticky above). I could help you if you were in Europe.

    Don't be discouraged though, keep trying and you will find what you need! It's all about the journey, and in this hobby a lot of the journey is "procurement".

    7/15/13 at 4:12am

    Bartacus said:



    Alright, thanks guys! I 'll keep my eyes peeled for perfumer's alcohol and if none turns up, I'll head towards making oil based perfumes. I found a seller of perfumer's alcohol, although it is $40/ liter.

    7/15/13 at 5:43am

    deadidol said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BartacusView Post

    Alright, thanks guys! I 'll keep my eyes peeled for perfumer's alcohol and if none turns up, I'll head towards making oil based perfumes. I found a seller of perfumer's alcohol, although it is $40/ liter.
    saveonscents.com sells it for a reasonable price in smaller amounts, and you shouldn't have any issues getting some from them smile.gif

    7/15/13 at 9:38am

    pkiler said:



    http://www.saveonscents.com/product_info.php/products_id/3571

    16oz perfumers alcohol for under 9 bucks, before shipping...

    use that.

    Lose the Isopropyl alcohol in your mix, but use it to clean up with. That's what I use to clean my lab with.

    Lose the IPM, unless you use it for a solvent for a thick material.

    Add some Hedione to your mix too, it will help you to smell the others by making the blend more lively diffusive.

    Shun? Of course not, Newbie... :-)

    7/15/13 at 11:31am

    mumsy said:



    We're not going to shun you when you've come to play with us in DIY. Perfumery is about fun and experimentation. You have done is something creative about your passion and have asked for some advice. What better a start could there be? Plenty more fun where that came in. Shout every time you want a hand and soon you will be as addicted to this sort of fun as we are.

    7/15/13 at 5:12pm

    Bartacus said:



    Alright! I won't hesitate to ask if I need help with something.





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