Oak Moss 65% TEC

    Oak Moss 65% TEC

    post #1 of 11
    Thread Starter 

    What does the 65% refer to? What is "TEC"?

    post #2 of 11

    I'm guessing that it is a 65.0% solution of Oakmoss in TEC. á TEC is TriEthyl Citrate, an odourless solvent.

    post #3 of 11
    Thread Starter 

    That's what I'm guessing as well, but the ambiguity for me is whether it's the oak moss absolute or the TEC that's 65% of the solution.

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    Edit: Called a vendor who sells it. 65% oak moss.

    post #4 of 11

    Oakmoss absolute is a very hard substance which is difficult to use. á It is often softened by adding a small amount of a solvent. á I guess the 65.0% Oakmoss you mention as been diluted with TEC achieve this. á 65.0% Oakmoss, 35.0% TEC. á

    post #5 of 11
    Thread Starter 
    I figured as much as to why it was diluted. I just needed to know which was at which concentration so I can do the math properly when I dilute it to 10% oak moss in solvent.
    post #6 of 11

    You're welcome.

    post #7 of 11

    Can I just jump onto this with a further question (that I think I know the answer to already)? So if I have a material that's 50% TEC (oakwood, in this case), should that be consideration for further dilution in blending, or should I simply treat the material like I would any other and dilute as my nose sees fit? Even at 50% it's quite goopy).á

    post #8 of 11

    Various solvents are added to those substances which are very hard, or very viscous to help in compounding. á Oakmoss, Treemoss and Benzoin are all let down with various solvents. á The most common are Benzyl Benzoate, Iso Propyl Myristate and Triethyl Citrate. á If you think your Oakwood 50.0% is still too viscous, or too strong then dilute away. á As you are keeping notes, you know what you have done, and you know what the final concentration of your diluted solution is; don't you?á

    post #9 of 11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by David RuskináView Post
    As you are keeping notes, you know what you have done, and you know what the final concentration of your diluted solution is; don't you?á

    In theory, yes. I actually haven't tried working with this one yet (I'm not sure what I'd do with it yet). I'll play around and see what happens.

    post #10 of 11
    Thread Starter 
    I say dilute it further especially when you are testing new blends out, as it gives a closer approximation of how the scent opens up in a finished blend and it saves the raw stuff from being wasted. Testing blends at 10% is less costly than at 50%. Plus, it's still "goopy", and that's a pain to work with.
    post #11 of 11

    Thanks for the tips, all. I'm going to approach this one with caution as it is a pricey material.

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    I might try wearing a small amount of it neat (20%?) for a while to get a better feel of it.

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    7/16/13 at 1:53am

    nefastvs said:



    What does the 65% refer to? What is "TEC"?

    7/16/13 at 2:36am

    David Ruskin said:



    I'm guessing that it is a 65.0% solution of Oakmoss in TEC. á TEC is TriEthyl Citrate, an odourless solvent.

    7/16/13 at 10:42am

    nefastvs said:



    That's what I'm guessing as well, but the ambiguity for me is whether it's the oak moss absolute or the TEC that's 65% of the solution.

    á

    Edit: Called a vendor who sells it. 65% oak moss.

    7/16/13 at 10:59am

    David Ruskin said:



    Oakmoss absolute is a very hard substance which is difficult to use. á It is often softened by adding a small amount of a solvent. á I guess the 65.0% Oakmoss you mention as been diluted with TEC achieve this. á 65.0% Oakmoss, 35.0% TEC. á

    7/16/13 at 11:05am

    nefastvs said:



    I figured as much as to why it was diluted. I just needed to know which was at which concentration so I can do the math properly when I dilute it to 10% oak moss in solvent.

    7/16/13 at 11:50am

    David Ruskin said:



    You're welcome.

    7/17/13 at 11:49am

    deadidol said:



    Can I just jump onto this with a further question (that I think I know the answer to already)? So if I have a material that's 50% TEC (oakwood, in this case), should that be consideration for further dilution in blending, or should I simply treat the material like I would any other and dilute as my nose sees fit? Even at 50% it's quite goopy).á

    7/17/13 at 12:02pm

    David Ruskin said:



    Various solvents are added to those substances which are very hard, or very viscous to help in compounding. á Oakmoss, Treemoss and Benzoin are all let down with various solvents. á The most common are Benzyl Benzoate, Iso Propyl Myristate and Triethyl Citrate. á If you think your Oakwood 50.0% is still too viscous, or too strong then dilute away. á As you are keeping notes, you know what you have done, and you know what the final concentration of your diluted solution is; don't you?á

    7/17/13 at 12:05pm

    deadidol said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by David RuskináView Post
    As you are keeping notes, you know what you have done, and you know what the final concentration of your diluted solution is; don't you?á

    In theory, yes. I actually haven't tried working with this one yet (I'm not sure what I'd do with it yet). I'll play around and see what happens.

    7/17/13 at 12:12pm

    nefastvs said:



    I say dilute it further especially when you are testing new blends out, as it gives a closer approximation of how the scent opens up in a finished blend and it saves the raw stuff from being wasted. Testing blends at 10% is less costly than at 50%. Plus, it's still "goopy", and that's a pain to work with.

    7/17/13 at 12:17pm

    deadidol said:



    Thanks for the tips, all. I'm going to approach this one with caution as it is a pricey material.

    á

    I might try wearing a small amount of it neat (20%?) for a while to get a better feel of it.





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