Would you risk it?

    Would you risk it?  

    post #1 of 93
    Thread Starter 
    I read and interesting article the other day about the dangerous chemicals that are in fragrances. I was so saddened by the article because like you I love fragrances and fear what I spray on one day may cause health effects. Of course i wont stop wearing fragrances because of this article cause i dont have enough information to validate its accurancy or its research. Im curious though.If you knew that your favorite fragrance would cause you a 50 percent chance of getting cancer or any other health related issue would you risk it? Im having a hard time answering this question. Are you?
    post #2 of 93
    Not at all. If the odds were that high, yes, I would definitely stop wearing it.
    post #3 of 93
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BobsterView Post

    Im curious though.If you knew that your favorite fragrance would cause you a 50 percent chance of getting cancer or any other health related issue would you risk it? Im having a hard time answering this question. Are you?

    No.

    And no.

    Then again I smoked for 15 years so....Yeah...Probably!

    Honestly, I don't think there's anything to worry about regarding the chemicals in fragrances....it's gotta be pretty low on the list in comparison to other things we do to ourselves on a daily basis that are much more unhealthy.

    post #4 of 93

    This has been discussed before. I think normal use of fragrances is harmless.

    post #5 of 93

    this is of legitimate concern. spraying chemicals all over yourself and letting your skin absorb them, EVERY SINGLE DAY, is absolutely something to worry about.

    think regulation will save you? think again. classifying something as "fragrance" allows companies to file them as "trade secrets", thereby not requiring them to disclose the ingredients.

    my research on this usually leads back to something called PHTHALATES. they are the major endocrine disruptor and possible cancer agent. they are used to create stability in fragrance and prolong shelf-life.

    i would be willing to wager that phthalates are more common in cheap, department store fragrance than in high-end niche parfumery.

    i also asked MY favorite fragrance company, CREED, if they use phthalates and they insisted that they do not. this made me feel better. it also explains why Creeds differ so much from batch to batch, and why they spoil easily over time. which is a point of contention to so many around here (not me), but worth it in my opinion in order to, i don't know, NOT GET CANCER.

    post #6 of 93

    The problem comes when it's time for the anti-perfume activists to provide actual evidence to substantiate their statements.

    post #7 of 93

    While there is some cause for concern, it's really more of a tenth order term in regards to overall health and well being.

    It's funny how some people are so afraid of spraying a few chemicals on their body, but have little to no regards of all the chemically processed crap they are eating. Weird priorities.

    post #8 of 93
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CasablancasView Post

    this is of legitimate concern. spraying chemicals all over yourself and letting your skin absorb them, EVERY SINGLE DAY, is absolutely something to worry about.

    think regulation will save you? think again. classifying something as "fragrance" allows companies to file them as "trade secrets", thereby not requiring them to disclose the ingredients.

    my research on this usually leads back to something called PHTHALATES. they are the major endocrine disruptor and possible cancer agent. they are used to create stability in fragrance and prolong shelf-life.

    i would be willing to wager that phthalates are more common in cheap, department store fragrance than in high-end niche parfumery.

    i also asked MY favorite fragrance company, CREED, if they use phthalates and they insisted that they do not. this made me feel better. it also explains why Creeds differ so much from batch to batch, and why they spoil easily over time. which is a point of contention, but worth it in my opinion in order to, i don't know, NOT GET CANCER.


    Basically all chemical preservatives have some kind of negative side effects. Neurotoxicity, endocrine disruption, etc. Many fragrances also have UV blocking chemicals and all kinds of shit in them. But unless your diet is spot on, well, it's little to worry about. You've got far, by many orders of magnitude (thousands, if not millions of times), more of a chance of suffering ill health (be it GERD, GI problems, IBS, balding, flatulence, all sorts of cancers, diabetes, alzheimers, etc) from what you eat.

    post #9 of 93

    I wish someone in the industry would discuss whether or not phthalates are used in fragrance. We need to know this. I understand they are hidden under the general term "fragrance". If these are carcinogens we need to know if they are there.

    post #10 of 93

    PS, have you heard about the deadly chemical dihydrogen monoxide?

    It's used in nearly all chemical solvents. Exposure to its solid form for extended periods causes tissue damage.

    Also:

    The causative link between Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) and Cancer is currently not established, although a significant amount of evidence seems to suggest that DHMO at least plays a role in the formation of cancer, including: Hodgkin's Lymphoma,
    Ewing's Tumor,
    chondrosarcoma,
    fibrosarcoma,
    multiple myeloma,
    colorectal cancer,
    Leukemia,
    basal cell carcinoma,
    squamous cell carcinoma, and
    malignant melanoma.

    Also:

    DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
    DHMO contributes to soil erosion.


    It's used in the production of styrofoam, as an industrial solvent and coolant, as a major ingredient in many home brewed bombs!


    We've got to ban DHMO it's some dangerous shit!

    http://dhmo.org/facts.html

    post #11 of 93
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by noirdrakkarView Post

    The problem comes when it's time for the anti-perfume activists to provide actual evidence to substantiate their statements.

    hahaha... that is the most absurd "argument" i have ever read.

    there are no "anti-perfume" activists. you have to look out for yourself. because companies won't do it, they are trying to take your money.

    post #12 of 93
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoulView Post


    Basically all chemical preservatives have some kind of negative side effects. Neurotoxicity, endocrine disruption, etc. Many fragrances also have UV blocking chemicals and all kinds of shit in them. But unless your diet is spot on, well, it's little to worry about. You've got far, by many orders of magnitude (thousands, if not millions of times), more of a chance of suffering ill health (be it GERD, GI problems, IBS, balding, flatulence, all sorts of cancers, diabetes, alzheimers, etc) from what you eat.

    straw-man argument.

    you can't defend perfume because it may/may not be WORSE than eating crap.

    I eat perfectly fine. organic, whole food, and local grassfed whenever i can. that HAS NOTHING to do with whether fragrance is carcinogenic or not.

    you are GUESSING that it's "thousands if not millions" of times less important than diet. you don't know that. and you can't negate the very common-sense reasoning that spraying chemicals on your body every day and letting your skin absorb it all is a highly questionable thing to engage in.

    post #13 of 93
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoulView Post

    PS, have you heard about the deadly chemical dihydrogen monoxide?

    It's used in nearly all chemical solvents. Exposure to its solid form for extended periods causes tissue damage.

    Also:

    The causative link between Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) and Cancer is currently not established, although a significant amount of evidence seems to suggest that DHMO at least plays a role in the formation of cancer, including: Hodgkin's Lymphoma,
    Ewing's Tumor,
    chondrosarcoma,
    fibrosarcoma,
    multiple myeloma,
    colorectal cancer,
    Leukemia,
    basal cell carcinoma,
    squamous cell carcinoma, and
    malignant melanoma.

    Also:

    DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
    DHMO contributes to soil erosion.


    It's used in the production of styrofoam, as an industrial solvent and coolant, as a major ingredient in many home brewed bombs!


    We've got to ban DHMO it's some dangerous shit!

    http://dhmo.org/facts.html

    please stop the irrelevant straw-man arguments and stick to the merits of FRAGRANCE.

    yes, doing cocaine is worse for you than wearing perfume. THAT IS NOT THE DISCUSSION HERE.

    post #14 of 93
    Haha water.
    post #15 of 93
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CasablancasView Post

    hahaha... that is the most absurd "argument" i have ever read.

    Well, it's your turn....

    Provide some sources...

    post #16 of 93
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CasablancasView Post

    straw-man argument.

    you can't defend perfume because it may/may not be WORSE than eating crap.

    I eat perfectly fine. organic, whole food, and local grassfed whenever i can. that HAS NOTHING to do with whether fragrance is carcinogenic or not.

    you are GUESSING that it's "thousands if not millions" of times less important than diet. you don't know that. and you can't negate the very common-sense reasoning that spraying chemicals on your body every day and letting your skin absorb it all is a highly questionable thing to engage in.


    I know diet has given many people diabetes, alzheimers, arthritis, strokes, heart attack, etc.

    There's no conclusive evidence that perfume has done this. I'm NOT saying it's harmless or not worth investigating, but I'm saying that it's not worth stressing abouttoo much unless you have other more pertinent aspects of your health in order.

    I guarantee diet is more important to your overall health, cancer chances, etc. than perfume.

    post #17 of 93

    The whole discussion on the diet is a red herring.

    The point is "is perfume safe"?

    And so far there is no concrete evidence presented in this debate so far that would even suggest that perfume is harmful in any way toward one's health.

    Okay, it COULD be. But a hunch is not enough to convince me.

    post #18 of 93

    I don't believe it so I will continue to wear frag's as normal

    7/17/13 at 9:49am

    Bobster said:



    I read and interesting article the other day about the dangerous chemicals that are in fragrances. I was so saddened by the article because like you I love fragrances and fear what I spray on one day may cause health effects. Of course i wont stop wearing fragrances because of this article cause i dont have enough information to validate its accurancy or its research. Im curious though.If you knew that your favorite fragrance would cause you a 50 percent chance of getting cancer or any other health related issue would you risk it? Im having a hard time answering this question. Are you?

    7/17/13 at 9:56am

    JiveHippo said:



    Not at all. If the odds were that high, yes, I would definitely stop wearing it.

    7/17/13 at 9:58am

    Buysblind said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BobsterView Post

    Im curious though.If you knew that your favorite fragrance would cause you a 50 percent chance of getting cancer or any other health related issue would you risk it? Im having a hard time answering this question. Are you?

    No.

    And no.

    Then again I smoked for 15 years so....Yeah...Probably!

    Honestly, I don't think there's anything to worry about regarding the chemicals in fragrances....it's gotta be pretty low on the list in comparison to other things we do to ourselves on a daily basis that are much more unhealthy.

    7/17/13 at 10:01am

    TLS said:



    This has been discussed before. I think normal use of fragrances is harmless.

    7/17/13 at 10:08am

    Casablancas said:



    this is of legitimate concern. spraying chemicals all over yourself and letting your skin absorb them, EVERY SINGLE DAY, is absolutely something to worry about.

    think regulation will save you? think again. classifying something as "fragrance" allows companies to file them as "trade secrets", thereby not requiring them to disclose the ingredients.

    my research on this usually leads back to something called PHTHALATES. they are the major endocrine disruptor and possible cancer agent. they are used to create stability in fragrance and prolong shelf-life.

    i would be willing to wager that phthalates are more common in cheap, department store fragrance than in high-end niche parfumery.

    i also asked MY favorite fragrance company, CREED, if they use phthalates and they insisted that they do not. this made me feel better. it also explains why Creeds differ so much from batch to batch, and why they spoil easily over time. which is a point of contention to so many around here (not me), but worth it in my opinion in order to, i don't know, NOT GET CANCER.

    7/17/13 at 10:09am

    noirdrakkar said:



    The problem comes when it's time for the anti-perfume activists to provide actual evidence to substantiate their statements.

    7/17/13 at 10:10am

    SculptureOfSoul said:



    While there is some cause for concern, it's really more of a tenth order term in regards to overall health and well being.

    It's funny how some people are so afraid of spraying a few chemicals on their body, but have little to no regards of all the chemically processed crap they are eating. Weird priorities.

    7/17/13 at 10:12am

    SculptureOfSoul said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CasablancasView Post

    this is of legitimate concern. spraying chemicals all over yourself and letting your skin absorb them, EVERY SINGLE DAY, is absolutely something to worry about.

    think regulation will save you? think again. classifying something as "fragrance" allows companies to file them as "trade secrets", thereby not requiring them to disclose the ingredients.

    my research on this usually leads back to something called PHTHALATES. they are the major endocrine disruptor and possible cancer agent. they are used to create stability in fragrance and prolong shelf-life.

    i would be willing to wager that phthalates are more common in cheap, department store fragrance than in high-end niche parfumery.

    i also asked MY favorite fragrance company, CREED, if they use phthalates and they insisted that they do not. this made me feel better. it also explains why Creeds differ so much from batch to batch, and why they spoil easily over time. which is a point of contention, but worth it in my opinion in order to, i don't know, NOT GET CANCER.


    Basically all chemical preservatives have some kind of negative side effects. Neurotoxicity, endocrine disruption, etc. Many fragrances also have UV blocking chemicals and all kinds of shit in them. But unless your diet is spot on, well, it's little to worry about. You've got far, by many orders of magnitude (thousands, if not millions of times), more of a chance of suffering ill health (be it GERD, GI problems, IBS, balding, flatulence, all sorts of cancers, diabetes, alzheimers, etc) from what you eat.

    7/17/13 at 10:16am

    Buzzlepuff said:



    I wish someone in the industry would discuss whether or not phthalates are used in fragrance. We need to know this. I understand they are hidden under the general term "fragrance". If these are carcinogens we need to know if they are there.

    7/17/13 at 10:16am

    SculptureOfSoul said:



    PS, have you heard about the deadly chemical dihydrogen monoxide?

    It's used in nearly all chemical solvents. Exposure to its solid form for extended periods causes tissue damage.

    Also:

    The causative link between Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) and Cancer is currently not established, although a significant amount of evidence seems to suggest that DHMO at least plays a role in the formation of cancer, including: Hodgkin's Lymphoma,
    Ewing's Tumor,
    chondrosarcoma,
    fibrosarcoma,
    multiple myeloma,
    colorectal cancer,
    Leukemia,
    basal cell carcinoma,
    squamous cell carcinoma, and
    malignant melanoma.

    Also:

    DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
    DHMO contributes to soil erosion.


    It's used in the production of styrofoam, as an industrial solvent and coolant, as a major ingredient in many home brewed bombs!


    We've got to ban DHMO it's some dangerous shit!

    http://dhmo.org/facts.html

    7/17/13 at 10:17am

    Casablancas said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by noirdrakkarView Post

    The problem comes when it's time for the anti-perfume activists to provide actual evidence to substantiate their statements.

    hahaha... that is the most absurd "argument" i have ever read.

    there are no "anti-perfume" activists. you have to look out for yourself. because companies won't do it, they are trying to take your money.

    7/17/13 at 10:20am

    Casablancas said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoulView Post


    Basically all chemical preservatives have some kind of negative side effects. Neurotoxicity, endocrine disruption, etc. Many fragrances also have UV blocking chemicals and all kinds of shit in them. But unless your diet is spot on, well, it's little to worry about. You've got far, by many orders of magnitude (thousands, if not millions of times), more of a chance of suffering ill health (be it GERD, GI problems, IBS, balding, flatulence, all sorts of cancers, diabetes, alzheimers, etc) from what you eat.

    straw-man argument.

    you can't defend perfume because it may/may not be WORSE than eating crap.

    I eat perfectly fine. organic, whole food, and local grassfed whenever i can. that HAS NOTHING to do with whether fragrance is carcinogenic or not.

    you are GUESSING that it's "thousands if not millions" of times less important than diet. you don't know that. and you can't negate the very common-sense reasoning that spraying chemicals on your body every day and letting your skin absorb it all is a highly questionable thing to engage in.

    7/17/13 at 10:21am

    Casablancas said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoulView Post

    PS, have you heard about the deadly chemical dihydrogen monoxide?

    It's used in nearly all chemical solvents. Exposure to its solid form for extended periods causes tissue damage.

    Also:

    The causative link between Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) and Cancer is currently not established, although a significant amount of evidence seems to suggest that DHMO at least plays a role in the formation of cancer, including: Hodgkin's Lymphoma,
    Ewing's Tumor,
    chondrosarcoma,
    fibrosarcoma,
    multiple myeloma,
    colorectal cancer,
    Leukemia,
    basal cell carcinoma,
    squamous cell carcinoma, and
    malignant melanoma.

    Also:

    DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
    DHMO contributes to soil erosion.


    It's used in the production of styrofoam, as an industrial solvent and coolant, as a major ingredient in many home brewed bombs!


    We've got to ban DHMO it's some dangerous shit!

    http://dhmo.org/facts.html

    please stop the irrelevant straw-man arguments and stick to the merits of FRAGRANCE.

    yes, doing cocaine is worse for you than wearing perfume. THAT IS NOT THE DISCUSSION HERE.

    7/17/13 at 10:26am

    williampaul1969 said:



    Haha water.

    7/17/13 at 10:29am

    noirdrakkar said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CasablancasView Post

    hahaha... that is the most absurd "argument" i have ever read.

    Well, it's your turn....

    Provide some sources...

    7/17/13 at 10:38am

    SculptureOfSoul said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CasablancasView Post

    straw-man argument.

    you can't defend perfume because it may/may not be WORSE than eating crap.

    I eat perfectly fine. organic, whole food, and local grassfed whenever i can. that HAS NOTHING to do with whether fragrance is carcinogenic or not.

    you are GUESSING that it's "thousands if not millions" of times less important than diet. you don't know that. and you can't negate the very common-sense reasoning that spraying chemicals on your body every day and letting your skin absorb it all is a highly questionable thing to engage in.


    I know diet has given many people diabetes, alzheimers, arthritis, strokes, heart attack, etc.

    There's no conclusive evidence that perfume has done this. I'm NOT saying it's harmless or not worth investigating, but I'm saying that it's not worth stressing abouttoo much unless you have other more pertinent aspects of your health in order.

    I guarantee diet is more important to your overall health, cancer chances, etc. than perfume.

    7/17/13 at 10:45am

    noirdrakkar said:



    The whole discussion on the diet is a red herring.

    The point is "is perfume safe"?

    And so far there is no concrete evidence presented in this debate so far that would even suggest that perfume is harmful in any way toward one's health.

    Okay, it COULD be. But a hunch is not enough to convince me.

    7/17/13 at 10:55am

    Tony T said:



    I don't believe it so I will continue to wear frag's as normal





Loving perfume on the Internet since 2000