ok, got a couple of strong formulas, eh.. what's next?

    ok, got a couple of strong formulas, eh.. what's next?

    post #1 of 13
    Thread Starter 


    after some reading, doing maths, experimenting, reading again and searching, and after about a 20 year old experience on trying most commercial fragrances (mostly mens and unisex ones) i could say - after testing to real people (involved or not) - i have made a couple of strong formulas (among with some dissapointments off course, helped me stay on earth !).. but what's next? I mean ok im doing this mostly for my personal pleasure but when it comes something so good it's kinda you feel you wanna share.. and what? is there any house out there accepting samples or what? Unfortunately im not that rich to start my own house in real..And really not involved with the fashion industry.. am i looking so high?
    ..in making perfumes i am so newbie so don't get me wrong :)


    Edited by patsavouta - 7/22/13 at 3:23pm
    post #2 of 13

    Do they smell "Commercial"?

    Do they smell like a Mass market fragrance?

    If not, then you won't probably have too much success, hucking your formulas.

    So I guess my suggestion is to simply enjoy your success, wear them, and give them as gifts to your friends..

    If you want to, you can give the formlua to JSparla at his website of Formulas...

    post #3 of 13

    Email all the big perfume houses you can think of and get addresses to send samples. Make sure to get back to us and tell what happened.

    post #4 of 13
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkilerView Post

    Do they smell "Commercial"?

    Do they smell like a Mass market fragrance?

    If not, then you won't probably have too much success, hucking your formulas.

    So I guess my suggestion is to simply enjoy your success, wear them, and give them as gifts to your friends..

    If you want to, you can give the formlua to JSparla at his website of Formulas...


    i made one for women that i realized later in the mall that it smells exactly like bronze goddess by lauder which was pretty weird to me, cause hadn't smell that before, and had no idea how they made the juice.. i won't continue this cause i may sound like a copycat even if im not; there is one unisex i made and i think it smells quite commercial while never smelled something like that before.. probably is really hard to reach big houses though so i may indeed enjoy myself or make some gifts, i'll check about Jsparla as well thanx

    post #5 of 13
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by heperdView Post

    Email all the big perfume houses you can think of and get addresses to send samples. Make sure to get back to us and tell what happened.


    do u think they will answer to an anonymous mail that offers a new scent for testing?? i will think a couple of houses that would be interested and may try to mail them but im not sure would be that easy..

    post #6 of 13
    Are your formulae IFRA-compliant? Why not post one here?
    post #7 of 13
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by edsheppView Post

    Are your formulae IFRA-compliant?

    just visited the site but the page with the compliance wasnt found.. on the other hand, my work is done using pure essential oils, nothing chemical or synthetic,
    also tested to many real people and no irritation or bad reaction happened (..)
    ..as a newbie i have so much to learn .. i know.. i'll keep you updated, although any help is welcome :)

    post #8 of 13

    I have been trying making my home-made perfume, as first step, for couple months. My problem with essential oils is the price especially when it comes to the Rose or the Jasmine oils (or absolutes). In addition, the essential oils don't give you a variety of blends given to the limited number of these oils comparing with fragrance oils, aldehydes and ketones in terms of both price and variety.

    For me, my ultimate goal is to produce commercial fragrances. However, I find it time consuming as my attempts involvedaldehydes and ketones. There are a lot of them to try and make the decision.

    If you are interested in more info, I am posting a good link that made an important turn for me:

    http://www.ebay.com/gds/Common-Perfume-Ingredients-Decoded/27768/g.html

    Wish you the best.

    post #9 of 13
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maybe275View Post

    I have been trying making my home-made perfume, as first step, for couple months. My problem with essential oils is the price especially when it comes to the Rose or the Jasmine oils (or absolutes). In addition, the essential oils don't give you a variety of blends given to the limited number of these oils comparing with fragrance oils, aldehydes and ketones in terms of both price and variety.

    For me, my ultimate goal is to produce commercial fragrances. However, I find it time consuming as my attempts involvedaldehydes and ketones. There are a lot of them to try and make the decision.

    If you are interested in more info, I am posting a good link that made an important turn for me:

    http://www.ebay.com/gds/Common-Perfume-Ingredients-Decoded/27768/g.html

    Wish you the best.


    thank you so much for your answer is really appreciated -- though didnt get it on my mail updates (:??)
    it's a whole bubling story of chemicals and preservatives that commercial fragrancies have.. im talking about the real juice, what they call on their ingridients as 'perfume/fragrance' .. that's what i'm more into.. and one more question.. lets say we have an essential oils mixture in a chemical lab can they know what exaciy this mixture have? yes im such a newbie..

    post #10 of 13

    I cannot answer about chemical stuff cuz Im not a specialist.

    post #11 of 13
    Thread Starter 

    most of DIY fragranscers seem to not talk.. i can send you samples if you take the expenses of sending! or what..<3

    post #12 of 13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by patsavoutaView Post

    most of DIY fragranscers seem to not talk.. i can send you samples if you take the expenses of sending! or what..<3

    The people who have been around the block a bit know that "It's Not Easy."

    Be afraid of nothing, and try all you can. Get to know all the people and make good connections that you can.

    And if you can get people to pay you for your samples to smell them and give their opinion, then good for you, but it is not the standard for a newbie to charge someone to give their ideas and opinions. I must give away so many samples, that it gets very expensive... That's just business... be prepared for it.

    post #13 of 13
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkilerView Post

    The people who have been around the block a bit know that "It's Not Easy."

    Be afraid of nothing, and try all you can. Get to know all the people and make good connections that you can.

    And if you can get people to pay you for your samples to smell them and give their opinion, then good for you, but it is not the standard for a newbie to charge someone to give their ideas and opinions. I must give away so many samples, that it gets very expensive... That's just business... be prepared for it.


    i know its hard, may be im not that strong or don't have what it takes.. i'll keep you updated :)


    Edited by patsavouta - 7/30/13 at 4:36am
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    7/21/13 at 5:04pm

    patsavouta said:




    after some reading, doing maths, experimenting, reading again and searching, and after about a 20 year old experience on trying most commercial fragrances (mostly mens and unisex ones) i could say - after testing to real people (involved or not) - i have made a couple of strong formulas (among with some dissapointments off course, helped me stay on earth !).. but what's next? I mean ok im doing this mostly for my personal pleasure but when it comes something so good it's kinda you feel you wanna share.. and what? is there any house out there accepting samples or what? Unfortunately im not that rich to start my own house in real..And really not involved with the fashion industry.. am i looking so high?
    ..in making perfumes i am so newbie so don't get me wrong :)


    Edited by patsavouta - 7/22/13 at 3:23pm

    7/22/13 at 11:55pm

    pkiler said:



    Do they smell "Commercial"?

    Do they smell like a Mass market fragrance?

    If not, then you won't probably have too much success, hucking your formulas.

    So I guess my suggestion is to simply enjoy your success, wear them, and give them as gifts to your friends..

    If you want to, you can give the formlua to JSparla at his website of Formulas...

    7/23/13 at 12:26am

    heperd said:



    Email all the big perfume houses you can think of and get addresses to send samples. Make sure to get back to us and tell what happened.

    7/23/13 at 2:52am

    patsavouta said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkilerView Post

    Do they smell "Commercial"?

    Do they smell like a Mass market fragrance?

    If not, then you won't probably have too much success, hucking your formulas.

    So I guess my suggestion is to simply enjoy your success, wear them, and give them as gifts to your friends..

    If you want to, you can give the formlua to JSparla at his website of Formulas...


    i made one for women that i realized later in the mall that it smells exactly like bronze goddess by lauder which was pretty weird to me, cause hadn't smell that before, and had no idea how they made the juice.. i won't continue this cause i may sound like a copycat even if im not; there is one unisex i made and i think it smells quite commercial while never smelled something like that before.. probably is really hard to reach big houses though so i may indeed enjoy myself or make some gifts, i'll check about Jsparla as well thanx

    7/23/13 at 2:54am

    patsavouta said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by heperdView Post

    Email all the big perfume houses you can think of and get addresses to send samples. Make sure to get back to us and tell what happened.


    do u think they will answer to an anonymous mail that offers a new scent for testing?? i will think a couple of houses that would be interested and may try to mail them but im not sure would be that easy..

    7/23/13 at 5:18am

    edshepp said:



    Are your formulae IFRA-compliant? Why not post one here?

    7/23/13 at 3:28pm

    patsavouta said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by edsheppView Post

    Are your formulae IFRA-compliant?

    just visited the site but the page with the compliance wasnt found.. on the other hand, my work is done using pure essential oils, nothing chemical or synthetic,
    also tested to many real people and no irritation or bad reaction happened (..)
    ..as a newbie i have so much to learn .. i know.. i'll keep you updated, although any help is welcome :)

    7/26/13 at 12:23am

    Maybe275 said:



    I have been trying making my home-made perfume, as first step, for couple months. My problem with essential oils is the price especially when it comes to the Rose or the Jasmine oils (or absolutes). In addition, the essential oils don't give you a variety of blends given to the limited number of these oils comparing with fragrance oils, aldehydes and ketones in terms of both price and variety.

    For me, my ultimate goal is to produce commercial fragrances. However, I find it time consuming as my attempts involvedaldehydes and ketones. There are a lot of them to try and make the decision.

    If you are interested in more info, I am posting a good link that made an important turn for me:

    http://www.ebay.com/gds/Common-Perfume-Ingredients-Decoded/27768/g.html

    Wish you the best.

    7/26/13 at 4:04pm

    patsavouta said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Maybe275View Post

    I have been trying making my home-made perfume, as first step, for couple months. My problem with essential oils is the price especially when it comes to the Rose or the Jasmine oils (or absolutes). In addition, the essential oils don't give you a variety of blends given to the limited number of these oils comparing with fragrance oils, aldehydes and ketones in terms of both price and variety.

    For me, my ultimate goal is to produce commercial fragrances. However, I find it time consuming as my attempts involvedaldehydes and ketones. There are a lot of them to try and make the decision.

    If you are interested in more info, I am posting a good link that made an important turn for me:

    http://www.ebay.com/gds/Common-Perfume-Ingredients-Decoded/27768/g.html

    Wish you the best.


    thank you so much for your answer is really appreciated -- though didnt get it on my mail updates (:??)
    it's a whole bubling story of chemicals and preservatives that commercial fragrancies have.. im talking about the real juice, what they call on their ingridients as 'perfume/fragrance' .. that's what i'm more into.. and one more question.. lets say we have an essential oils mixture in a chemical lab can they know what exaciy this mixture have? yes im such a newbie..

    7/26/13 at 10:36pm

    Maybe275 said:



    I cannot answer about chemical stuff cuz Im not a specialist.

    7/29/13 at 6:03pm

    patsavouta said:



    most of DIY fragranscers seem to not talk.. i can send you samples if you take the expenses of sending! or what..<3

    7/29/13 at 6:12pm

    pkiler said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by patsavoutaView Post

    most of DIY fragranscers seem to not talk.. i can send you samples if you take the expenses of sending! or what..<3

    The people who have been around the block a bit know that "It's Not Easy."

    Be afraid of nothing, and try all you can. Get to know all the people and make good connections that you can.

    And if you can get people to pay you for your samples to smell them and give their opinion, then good for you, but it is not the standard for a newbie to charge someone to give their ideas and opinions. I must give away so many samples, that it gets very expensive... That's just business... be prepared for it.

    7/29/13 at 6:28pm

    patsavouta said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkilerView Post

    The people who have been around the block a bit know that "It's Not Easy."

    Be afraid of nothing, and try all you can. Get to know all the people and make good connections that you can.

    And if you can get people to pay you for your samples to smell them and give their opinion, then good for you, but it is not the standard for a newbie to charge someone to give their ideas and opinions. I must give away so many samples, that it gets very expensive... That's just business... be prepared for it.


    i know its hard, may be im not that strong or don't have what it takes.. i'll keep you updated :)


    Edited by patsavouta - 7/30/13 at 4:36am





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