an esoteric note

    an esoteric note

    post #1 of 8
    Thread Starter 

    Hi folks!

     

    We're working with an artist who is requesting some very specifically evocative notes for a scent she is conceiving of. We're a bit lost on these components, and thought maybe someone wiser might have a clue of what we should try.

     

    Amongst others:

     

    - warm deserty dust/dirt: we're thinking of using a mitti attar, but does anyone know of any aromachemical components that could elicit the same sort of response?

     

    - old hot vinyl (as in an overheated car): people say labdanum. any other suggestions?

     

    - sweat (human): do you guys think cumin is the right choice for this?

     

    And thank you!

    -Saskia

    post #2 of 8

    For "Old hot vinyl" I would try Styrax (for the styrene note) possibly in combination with Safraleine.

    post #3 of 8
    Thread Starter 

    thank you! will try that.
     

    post #4 of 8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by artandolfaction View Post

    Hi folks!

     

    We're working with an artist who is requesting some very specifically evocative notes for a scent she is conceiving of. We're a bit lost on these components, and thought maybe someone wiser might have a clue of what we should try.

     

    Amongst others:

     

    - warm deserty dust/dirt: we're thinking of using a mitti attar, but does anyone know of any aromachemical components that could elicit the same sort of response?

     

    - old hot vinyl (as in an overheated car): people say labdanum. any other suggestions?

     

    - sweat (human): do you guys think cumin is the right choice for this?

     

    And thank you!

    -Saskia

    Warm Deserty / Dust / Dirt

    I'd go with these to start with and pick from: Geosmin, Humus Ether, Mahogonate, Terrasol, Terranol, Mitti Attar, and Mitti Vetiver, possibly with a bit of vegetal odor of Creosote bush tincture.

     

    Old Hot Vinyl, don't have too many suggestions, As I'd have to do too much research for you to answer you.  But you could have a Headspace GC-MS done of that, and start there...

     

    Sweat:  Aldron, Salt Accord, Cumin (yes), plus some animalic musks like Tonquitone.

     

    If you're really stuck, drive on out to my Perfumarium and come play...  5 south to 91 East, to 15 South, exit Railroad Canyon Road in Lake Elsinore, then six miles east.  Bring a Hat, It's HOT!  shocked.gif

    post #5 of 8
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    Warm Deserty / Dust / Dirt

    I'd go with these to start with and pick from: Geosmin, Humus Ether, Mahogonate, Terrasol, Terranol, Mitti Attar, and Mitti Vetiver, possibly with a bit of vegetal odor of Creosote bush tincture.

    Old Hot Vinyl, don't have too many suggestions, As I'd have to do too much research for you to answer you.  But you could have a Headspace GC-MS done of that, and start there...

    Sweat:  Aldron, Salt Accord, Cumin (yes), plus some animalic musks like Tonquitone.


    thank you Paul!

    post #6 of 8

    - old hot vinyl (as in an overheated car): people say labdanum. any other suggestions?...

     

    Labdanum, some species, not all labdanum, yes.

    Vinyl, car tires, asphalt notes have fresh ginger EO; Liquidambar orientalis, or Stryrax asian EO have gasoline, new car salon notes.

    post #7 of 8

    After working to photograph in a Plastic and fiberglass box manufacturer yesterday, I asked what the odors came from, they said Styrene, and Methyl Ethyl Ketone.

     

    But I wouldn't want to put that on my skin...

    post #8 of 8

    Styrax contains Styrene.

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    7/22/13 at 1:03pm

    artandolfaction said:



    Hi folks!

     

    We're working with an artist who is requesting some very specifically evocative notes for a scent she is conceiving of. We're a bit lost on these components, and thought maybe someone wiser might have a clue of what we should try.

     

    Amongst others:

     

    - warm deserty dust/dirt: we're thinking of using a mitti attar, but does anyone know of any aromachemical components that could elicit the same sort of response?

     

    - old hot vinyl (as in an overheated car): people say labdanum. any other suggestions?

     

    - sweat (human): do you guys think cumin is the right choice for this?

     

    And thank you!

    -Saskia

    7/22/13 at 2:53pm

    Renegade said:



    For "Old hot vinyl" I would try Styrax (for the styrene note) possibly in combination with Safraleine.

    7/22/13 at 9:14pm

    artandolfaction said:



    thank you! will try that.
     

    7/22/13 at 11:42pm

    pkiler said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by artandolfaction View Post

    Hi folks!

     

    We're working with an artist who is requesting some very specifically evocative notes for a scent she is conceiving of. We're a bit lost on these components, and thought maybe someone wiser might have a clue of what we should try.

     

    Amongst others:

     

    - warm deserty dust/dirt: we're thinking of using a mitti attar, but does anyone know of any aromachemical components that could elicit the same sort of response?

     

    - old hot vinyl (as in an overheated car): people say labdanum. any other suggestions?

     

    - sweat (human): do you guys think cumin is the right choice for this?

     

    And thank you!

    -Saskia

    Warm Deserty / Dust / Dirt

    I'd go with these to start with and pick from: Geosmin, Humus Ether, Mahogonate, Terrasol, Terranol, Mitti Attar, and Mitti Vetiver, possibly with a bit of vegetal odor of Creosote bush tincture.

     

    Old Hot Vinyl, don't have too many suggestions, As I'd have to do too much research for you to answer you.  But you could have a Headspace GC-MS done of that, and start there...

     

    Sweat:  Aldron, Salt Accord, Cumin (yes), plus some animalic musks like Tonquitone.

     

    If you're really stuck, drive on out to my Perfumarium and come play...  5 south to 91 East, to 15 South, exit Railroad Canyon Road in Lake Elsinore, then six miles east.  Bring a Hat, It's HOT!  shocked.gif

    7/23/13 at 6:00pm

    artandolfaction said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    Warm Deserty / Dust / Dirt

    I'd go with these to start with and pick from: Geosmin, Humus Ether, Mahogonate, Terrasol, Terranol, Mitti Attar, and Mitti Vetiver, possibly with a bit of vegetal odor of Creosote bush tincture.

    Old Hot Vinyl, don't have too many suggestions, As I'd have to do too much research for you to answer you.  But you could have a Headspace GC-MS done of that, and start there...

    Sweat:  Aldron, Salt Accord, Cumin (yes), plus some animalic musks like Tonquitone.


    thank you Paul!

    7/24/13 at 9:33am

    Ramute said:



    - old hot vinyl (as in an overheated car): people say labdanum. any other suggestions?...

     

    Labdanum, some species, not all labdanum, yes.

    Vinyl, car tires, asphalt notes have fresh ginger EO; Liquidambar orientalis, or Stryrax asian EO have gasoline, new car salon notes.

    7/25/13 at 7:56am

    pkiler said:



    After working to photograph in a Plastic and fiberglass box manufacturer yesterday, I asked what the odors came from, they said Styrene, and Methyl Ethyl Ketone.

     

    But I wouldn't want to put that on my skin...

    7/26/13 at 1:32am

    David Ruskin said:



    Styrax contains Styrene.