Fearing For My Bottles / My Closet Is At 84 degrees

    Fearing For My Bottles / My Closet Is At 84 degrees

    post #1 of 26
    Thread Starter 

    Any of you NY'ers dealing with a hot and humid apartment but you don't want to run your AC all day for fear of sky high electric bills ?

    Well I wish I didn't own so many bottles of juice because I don't know how long these babies will last. Maybe 1 more year in conditions like this ? I have no idea.

    I learned my lesson. From now on I will own at the most 2 bottles at a time of high end juice and use them before I purchase others.

    The way I see it these juices sitting in 84 degree closet temperature could be getting free AC at the store that I bought them from.

    Samples are fine but the days of hoarding bottles are over for me.

    post #2 of 26
    Nothing to worry about. Even an occasional 100 degree exposure won't hurt it. NOW if they were stored in hot very sunny area all the time, that can speed the evaporation of the top notes. That still wouldn't ruin them but they would have no top notes left and smell like they would have after you wore them a few hours.
    post #3 of 26
    That's pretty warm.
    Why not set it on auto. So it turns on when it gets to 26C then turns off till it gets hotter than that.
    post #4 of 26
    Thread Starter 

    It costs to much to keep my air on . Even on auto.

    I will use these bottles until they die then start my new program.

    It's a good thing in a way. I will own 2 bottles of high quality juice and actually USE IT. Makes sense to me.

    Damn this hobby is expensive.

    post #5 of 26

    It's all about extremes with fragrances. 84 degrees isn't an extreme temperature. For a human being on the other hand that's a little stuffy.

    post #6 of 26
    what about a huge cool box with cold water in it
    post #7 of 26

    It should be no problem if you plan to keep your bottles for 10 years or so. For longer horizons, I don't know, 84 doesn't sound excessive, but who knows. Many vintage frags were certainly kept in similar conditions (assuming that a store keeps its stock in air conditioned rooms is unwarranted, they save on electricity too) and are still perfectly ok.

    cacio

    post #8 of 26

    May be for the piece of mind, keep your MOST expensive bottles ($wise or amount of juice left) in your fridge.

    post #9 of 26

    I keep all my bottles in the fridge.

    Is this a bad thing to do?

    I'm sure I remember being told my the nice lady at the Malle counter that its the best place to store them all year round.

    post #10 of 26
    Thread Starter 

    There are a few threads on the subject. My personal experience is I USED TO keep fragrances in the fridge up until a few years ago. WHY ? It was during the summer and my walls were sweating but my fridge was rather damp inside. To make a long story short I ruined a number of bottles by keeping them in the fridge. Why didn't I ruin them years ago ? I believe the better quality ingredients used kept longer.

    At this point I am a firm believer in not using a fridge or having one specifically for fragrances set to the right temperature and *humidity.

    post #11 of 26
    It's the same thing for my house. My fragrances are kept in a dark drawer in my room that is anywhere from 79-84 degrees daily. However, I have a little fan that is on 24/7 pointed in their direction. Should I be fine?
    post #12 of 26

    never kept em in the fridge. I just don't expose em to sunlight. no bottles have been ruined yet.

    post #13 of 26

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    Edited by remik - 7/24/13 at 7:21pm
    post #14 of 26
    They should be fine, if you are really concerned a small cheapie wine fridge might work well. A small bowl of rice or bicarbonate soda helps to absorb moisture if necessary.
    post #15 of 26

    Light seems to me more of a concern than temperature, so your closet should be okay.

    post #16 of 26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gary FView Post

    Light seems to me more of a concern than temperature, so your closet should be okay.

    I agree. Also, running a fan on high inside of the closet will lower temp without spiking the electric bill

    post #17 of 26
    I moved my collection out of the closet and into a dresser drawer. They're a few degrees cooler now. They were up high before, now they're down low, a difference of a few degrees.
    post #18 of 26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by silentrichView Post

    It's all about extremes with fragrances. 84 degrees isn't an extreme temperature. For a human being on the other hand that's a little stuffy.

    ^ This is my take as well. While I agree the temp is a little warm, I don't think you need to be alarmed. Changes in temperature and exposure to light / sun are like KRYPTONITE.

    Also, be sure to keep ALLof your fragrances in their original boxes. Fragrances are transported often times in warm /hot shipping conditions, however, there's a science behind the packaging believe it or not.

    post #19 of 26

    7/23/13 at 9:13am

    thatmakesscents said:



    Any of you NY'ers dealing with a hot and humid apartment but you don't want to run your AC all day for fear of sky high electric bills ?

    Well I wish I didn't own so many bottles of juice because I don't know how long these babies will last. Maybe 1 more year in conditions like this ? I have no idea.

    I learned my lesson. From now on I will own at the most 2 bottles at a time of high end juice and use them before I purchase others.

    The way I see it these juices sitting in 84 degree closet temperature could be getting free AC at the store that I bought them from.

    Samples are fine but the days of hoarding bottles are over for me.

    7/23/13 at 9:18am

    Possum-Pie said:



    Nothing to worry about. Even an occasional 100 degree exposure won't hurt it. NOW if they were stored in hot very sunny area all the time, that can speed the evaporation of the top notes. That still wouldn't ruin them but they would have no top notes left and smell like they would have after you wore them a few hours.

    7/23/13 at 12:42pm

    hedonist222 said:



    That's pretty warm.
    Why not set it on auto. So it turns on when it gets to 26C then turns off till it gets hotter than that.

    7/23/13 at 1:52pm

    thatmakesscents said:



    It costs to much to keep my air on . Even on auto.

    I will use these bottles until they die then start my new program.

    It's a good thing in a way. I will own 2 bottles of high quality juice and actually USE IT. Makes sense to me.

    Damn this hobby is expensive.

    7/23/13 at 1:57pm

    silentrich said:



    It's all about extremes with fragrances. 84 degrees isn't an extreme temperature. For a human being on the other hand that's a little stuffy.

    7/23/13 at 2:01pm

    hedonist222 said:



    what about a huge cool box with cold water in it

    7/23/13 at 2:22pm

    cacio said:



    It should be no problem if you plan to keep your bottles for 10 years or so. For longer horizons, I don't know, 84 doesn't sound excessive, but who knows. Many vintage frags were certainly kept in similar conditions (assuming that a store keeps its stock in air conditioned rooms is unwarranted, they save on electricity too) and are still perfectly ok.

    cacio

    7/23/13 at 2:23pm

    CapriDog said:



    May be for the piece of mind, keep your MOST expensive bottles ($wise or amount of juice left) in your fridge.

    7/23/13 at 3:41pm

    blueyezz said:



    I keep all my bottles in the fridge.

    Is this a bad thing to do?

    I'm sure I remember being told my the nice lady at the Malle counter that its the best place to store them all year round.

    7/23/13 at 4:20pm

    thatmakesscents said:



    There are a few threads on the subject. My personal experience is I USED TO keep fragrances in the fridge up until a few years ago. WHY ? It was during the summer and my walls were sweating but my fridge was rather damp inside. To make a long story short I ruined a number of bottles by keeping them in the fridge. Why didn't I ruin them years ago ? I believe the better quality ingredients used kept longer.

    At this point I am a firm believer in not using a fridge or having one specifically for fragrances set to the right temperature and *humidity.

    7/23/13 at 4:39pm

    JonnyLeMale said:



    It's the same thing for my house. My fragrances are kept in a dark drawer in my room that is anywhere from 79-84 degrees daily. However, I have a little fan that is on 24/7 pointed in their direction. Should I be fine?

    7/23/13 at 4:52pm

    Tony T said:



    never kept em in the fridge. I just don't expose em to sunlight. no bottles have been ruined yet.

    7/23/13 at 5:13pm

    remik said:



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    Edited by remik - 7/24/13 at 7:21pm

    7/23/13 at 5:39pm

    Xscent said:



    They should be fine, if you are really concerned a small cheapie wine fridge might work well. A small bowl of rice or bicarbonate soda helps to absorb moisture if necessary.

    7/23/13 at 7:35pm

    Gary F said:



    Light seems to me more of a concern than temperature, so your closet should be okay.

    7/23/13 at 7:51pm

    NineInchNell said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gary FView Post

    Light seems to me more of a concern than temperature, so your closet should be okay.

    I agree. Also, running a fan on high inside of the closet will lower temp without spiking the electric bill

    7/24/13 at 4:18am

    greekyogurt said:



    I moved my collection out of the closet and into a dresser drawer. They're a few degrees cooler now. They were up high before, now they're down low, a difference of a few degrees.

    7/24/13 at 4:51am

    BoChosen said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by silentrichView Post

    It's all about extremes with fragrances. 84 degrees isn't an extreme temperature. For a human being on the other hand that's a little stuffy.

    ^ This is my take as well. While I agree the temp is a little warm, I don't think you need to be alarmed. Changes in temperature and exposure to light / sun are like KRYPTONITE.

    Also, be sure to keep ALLof your fragrances in their original boxes. Fragrances are transported often times in warm /hot shipping conditions, however, there's a science behind the packaging believe it or not.





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