Price and Reviews

    Price and Reviews

    post #1 of 59
    Thread Starter 
    Do you ever consider price in your review of a fragrance? There seem to be two camps here. First those who say "I review how good a fragrance smells and do not consider price at all." Then there is the camp who says "If it is $300/bottle it better smell A LOT better than something $50/bottle. I ask b/c in looking over my reviews, I see that I often gave less stars for something that smelled OK but was outrageously expensive. Not that I won't pay for quality. I have paid $550/bottle for Tribute, and $250 for other outstanding fragrances, but I'm talking about Price/Value here. If Jaques Evard Thallium Black was your favorite frag. (it is $19/Bottle) would you pay $250/bottle for it? Would your rating change if it went from $19/bottle to $250/bottle?
    post #2 of 59
    I don't really write reviews but when purchasing or making my mind up about a fragrance, all I am interested in is whether or not I like the way it smells. I would not rate a fragrance higher or lower based on its price. I think you hit the nail on the head when you talk about value for money. It is more a case of what something is worth to you personally and I suppose, your circumstances. Difficult question to answer!
    post #3 of 59

    It depends on whether you're approaching the review strictly from an olfactory angle or a consumer's purchasing decision. If it's the latter, price tags usually come into play. But do bear in mind 'affordability' is a relative/subjective concept as it varies with individuals. 

     

    As long as the reviewer explains his/her reservations re: value for money, I think it helps a reader make a more informed decision.

    post #4 of 59
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    Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post

    It depends on whether you're approaching the review strictly from an olfactory angle or a consumer's purchasing decision. If it's the latter, price tags usually come into play. But do bear in mind 'affordability' is a relative/subjective concept as it varies with individuals.

    I am not talking about affordability. I mean value. I LOVE Creed Himalaya, but gave it poor reviews b/c it lasts 2hrs or less on me. It smells like soap, and at that short longevity, lasts no longer than soap on me. Is it a nice smelling frag? yes Is it worth the price (IMO) no. I could buy Ivory soap, shower with it, and smell the same. If I rated it only on smell, I'd give it 4 1/2 stars. I gave Thallium Black 5 stars b/c it smells great and is inexpensive too. I gave Tribute Attar 5 stars b/c while it is $600/30mls, I feel (IMO) that it is worth the price...It is confusing I guess.
    post #5 of 59
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    Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post

    It depends on whether you're approaching the review strictly from an olfactory angle or a consumer's purchasing decision. If it's the latter, price tags usually come into play. But do bear in mind 'affordability' is a relative/subjective concept as it varies with individuals. 

    As long as the reviewer explains his/her reservations re: value for money, I think it helps a reader make a more informed decision.
    Personally don't write reviews, but agree with the above. Makes good sense to me.
    post #6 of 59

    I see what you mean, Possum-pie. If I love a fragrance enough, I suppose I'll find it worth owning. But is that 'value for money'? Probably not. But if I have money coming out of the wazoo, 'value for money' is not a concept I'd apply to my fragrance purchases.

     

    And to be brutally honest, no fragrance is worth the price it sells for.

    post #7 of 59
    Ultimately, some people factor this into a positive/negative review and like all other factors as regards fragrance, it is entirely subjective. That's why I don't hold too much stock in the reviews of others unless they explain their feelings towards the scent in question. The best thing to do is decide these things for yourself based on your priorities and circumstances.
    post #8 of 59

    Imo a good review takes into account the price, too.  (Mine being not good)

    post #9 of 59

    Although it shouldn't be at the forefront of every review, considering the "bang for your buck" does carry some weight and should probably be mentioned in some cases.  

    post #10 of 59
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    Originally Posted by The_Scentinel View Post

    Ultimately, some people factor this into a positive/negative review and like all other factors as regards fragrance, it is entirely subjective. That's why I don't hold too much stock in the reviews of others unless they explain their feelings towards the scent in question. The best thing to do is decide these things for yourself based on your priorities and circumstances.

    Absolutely. If someone writes a fragrance 'sucks' b/c it is expensive, that isn't rating the frag. but the price. BUT if someone says "I like it, but not $250 worth" It is more info. Like I asked before. Let's say you love Ralph Lauren new Polo Red fragrance... Would you pay $250 for it?
    Edited by Possum-Pie - 7/28/13 at 11:30am
    post #11 of 59

    Price is not particularly important when rating a frag, however, the price can be factored in as a caveat. When you rate a Volkswagon vs. a Porche there are class differences to consider. Those same differences exist when comparing a designer vs. a niche frag. We expect more performance for more cash and its an entirely rational expectation.

    post #12 of 59
    I am a consumer, and while I can respect a good fragrance, when coming to a review I consider its price. I am much more demanding with a frag with a very high price, and I can be more forgiving with a cheap one. This doesn't mean i'm giving a good review to something based on price if i don't like the smell. But i can thumb up an OK smell if it's cheap, but i'm probably thumbing it down that ok smell is expensive.
    post #13 of 59

    Never reviewed in a way biased/influenced etc. by the price, yet when a fragrance (in my opinion) smells more expensive that it is actually expected for the price, is good value for money, I might mention this in my review- albeit very cautiously, even a bit reluctantly, since everyone has very different standards about what good quality, good price, good value for money involves.  

    post #14 of 59

    I have discussed this quite a bit over the last few months.  I don't think a review should consider price.  As a fragrance review, you are [supposedly] telling the reader something they don't already know - how it smells.  They can find the price for themselves.  You review the fragrance. They look at the review, and the price, and their financial situation, and their priorities, and decide for themselves whether it is worth it.

     

    Someone who makes $30k / year may not think GIT is worth the price, when you can get Cool Water for much less.  Someone who makes $400k / year may not care about the price difference, but wants the best smelling option.  Different resources, different priorities - the reviewer knows nothing about the audience or their personal factors, so they should really just stick to what they know - the fragrance they are reviewing.

     

    Also, fragrance reviews can stick around for years - the price of a fragrance may not stay the same.  At $315 / bottle, a review of a new Creed fragrance may be different than 10 years later if it can then be found in a lot of stores and discounters, and more competition may drive the price down, etc.  Basically, the reviewer can no more discuss the price as a factor any more than reviewing the fragrance based on a reformulation that hasn't happened yet.

     

    You know the fragrances - not your audience.  Discuss the smell, not my finances or priorities.

    post #15 of 59

    price plays a major factor for me when I write reviews.

    post #16 of 59
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    Originally Posted by dougczar View Post

    I have discussed this quite a bit over the last few months.  I don't think a review should consider price.  As a fragrance review, you are [supposedly] telling the reader something they don't already know - how it smells.  They can find the price for themselves.  You review the fragrance. They look at the review, and the price, and their financial situation, and their priorities, and decide for themselves whether it is worth it.

    Someone who makes $30k / year may not think GIT is worth the price, when you can get Cool Water for much less.  Someone who makes $400k / year may not care about the price difference, but wants the best smelling option.  Different resources, different priorities - the reviewer knows nothing about the audience or their personal factors, so they should really just stick to what they know - the fragrance they are reviewing.

    Also, fragrance reviews can stick around for years - the price of a fragrance may not stay the same.  At $315 / bottle, a review of a new Creed fragrance may be different than 10 years later if it can then be found in a lot of stores and discounters, and more competition may drive the price down, etc.  Basically, the reviewer can no more discuss the price as a factor any more than reviewing the fragrance based on a reformulation that hasn't happened yet.

    You know the fragrances - not your audience.  Discuss the smell, not my finances or priorities.

    Dougczar, I've read your thoughts on this before, I remember now almost the exact same exchange. You make sense on most points, I am by no means unable to afford a frag. In fact If I want any fragrance out there, I will get it - price means nothing to me. VALUE however means everything. I think Donald Trump or Steve Jobs would think twice about paying $250 for a bottle of Old Spice. Is it a classic? Yes. Is it 'wearable?' Sure "would I own it?" Yes. Would I pay $250/bottle for it? Absolutely not. My reviews are primarily how nice the frag smells. BUT second is a mention of longevity. I don't care how nice something is, if it lasts 1/2hr. that is a function of value. If I have to buy an atomizer and re-spray myself 2 or 3 times over the work day just to smell it, that cuts into its value. Lastly is Value. Is it worth whatever price they are currently asking? Fragrantica has a nice system. when you review a frag, you move a slider for projection and longevity. You 'vote' on what season and time of day it works best in. No one should buy solely based on that, but there are far too many wonderful frags out there for me to fool with an expensive one that lasts 30 min. I DO however have some inexpensive ones that don't last...I feel better reapplying something that was 30cents/ml than something that was $3/ml.
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    7/28/13 at 6:46am

    Possum-Pie said:



    Do you ever consider price in your review of a fragrance? There seem to be two camps here. First those who say "I review how good a fragrance smells and do not consider price at all." Then there is the camp who says "If it is $300/bottle it better smell A LOT better than something $50/bottle. I ask b/c in looking over my reviews, I see that I often gave less stars for something that smelled OK but was outrageously expensive. Not that I won't pay for quality. I have paid $550/bottle for Tribute, and $250 for other outstanding fragrances, but I'm talking about Price/Value here. If Jaques Evard Thallium Black was your favorite frag. (it is $19/Bottle) would you pay $250/bottle for it? Would your rating change if it went from $19/bottle to $250/bottle?

    7/28/13 at 6:56am

    The_Scentinel said:



    I don't really write reviews but when purchasing or making my mind up about a fragrance, all I am interested in is whether or not I like the way it smells. I would not rate a fragrance higher or lower based on its price. I think you hit the nail on the head when you talk about value for money. It is more a case of what something is worth to you personally and I suppose, your circumstances. Difficult question to answer!

    7/28/13 at 7:01am

    Diamondflame said:



    It depends on whether you're approaching the review strictly from an olfactory angle or a consumer's purchasing decision. If it's the latter, price tags usually come into play. But do bear in mind 'affordability' is a relative/subjective concept as it varies with individuals. 

     

    As long as the reviewer explains his/her reservations re: value for money, I think it helps a reader make a more informed decision.

    7/28/13 at 7:08am

    Possum-Pie said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post

    It depends on whether you're approaching the review strictly from an olfactory angle or a consumer's purchasing decision. If it's the latter, price tags usually come into play. But do bear in mind 'affordability' is a relative/subjective concept as it varies with individuals.

    I am not talking about affordability. I mean value. I LOVE Creed Himalaya, but gave it poor reviews b/c it lasts 2hrs or less on me. It smells like soap, and at that short longevity, lasts no longer than soap on me. Is it a nice smelling frag? yes Is it worth the price (IMO) no. I could buy Ivory soap, shower with it, and smell the same. If I rated it only on smell, I'd give it 4 1/2 stars. I gave Thallium Black 5 stars b/c it smells great and is inexpensive too. I gave Tribute Attar 5 stars b/c while it is $600/30mls, I feel (IMO) that it is worth the price...It is confusing I guess.

    7/28/13 at 7:10am

    hednic said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post

    It depends on whether you're approaching the review strictly from an olfactory angle or a consumer's purchasing decision. If it's the latter, price tags usually come into play. But do bear in mind 'affordability' is a relative/subjective concept as it varies with individuals. 

    As long as the reviewer explains his/her reservations re: value for money, I think it helps a reader make a more informed decision.
    Personally don't write reviews, but agree with the above. Makes good sense to me.

    7/28/13 at 7:14am

    Diamondflame said:



    I see what you mean, Possum-pie. If I love a fragrance enough, I suppose I'll find it worth owning. But is that 'value for money'? Probably not. But if I have money coming out of the wazoo, 'value for money' is not a concept I'd apply to my fragrance purchases.

     

    And to be brutally honest, no fragrance is worth the price it sells for.

    7/28/13 at 7:16am

    The_Scentinel said:



    Ultimately, some people factor this into a positive/negative review and like all other factors as regards fragrance, it is entirely subjective. That's why I don't hold too much stock in the reviews of others unless they explain their feelings towards the scent in question. The best thing to do is decide these things for yourself based on your priorities and circumstances.

    7/28/13 at 7:21am

    dofa91 said:



    Imo a good review takes into account the price, too.  (Mine being not good)

    7/28/13 at 7:24am

    naylor said:



    Although it shouldn't be at the forefront of every review, considering the "bang for your buck" does carry some weight and should probably be mentioned in some cases.  

    7/28/13 at 7:28am

    Possum-Pie said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Scentinel View Post

    Ultimately, some people factor this into a positive/negative review and like all other factors as regards fragrance, it is entirely subjective. That's why I don't hold too much stock in the reviews of others unless they explain their feelings towards the scent in question. The best thing to do is decide these things for yourself based on your priorities and circumstances.

    Absolutely. If someone writes a fragrance 'sucks' b/c it is expensive, that isn't rating the frag. but the price. BUT if someone says "I like it, but not $250 worth" It is more info. Like I asked before. Let's say you love Ralph Lauren new Polo Red fragrance... Would you pay $250 for it?
    Edited by Possum-Pie - 7/28/13 at 11:30am

    7/28/13 at 8:16am

    gilesjp said:



    Price is not particularly important when rating a frag, however, the price can be factored in as a caveat. When you rate a Volkswagon vs. a Porche there are class differences to consider. Those same differences exist when comparing a designer vs. a niche frag. We expect more performance for more cash and its an entirely rational expectation.

    7/28/13 at 8:27am

    Postumo said:



    I am a consumer, and while I can respect a good fragrance, when coming to a review I consider its price. I am much more demanding with a frag with a very high price, and I can be more forgiving with a cheap one. This doesn't mean i'm giving a good review to something based on price if i don't like the smell. But i can thumb up an OK smell if it's cheap, but i'm probably thumbing it down that ok smell is expensive.

    7/28/13 at 8:34am

    Ken_Russell said:



    Never reviewed in a way biased/influenced etc. by the price, yet when a fragrance (in my opinion) smells more expensive that it is actually expected for the price, is good value for money, I might mention this in my review- albeit very cautiously, even a bit reluctantly, since everyone has very different standards about what good quality, good price, good value for money involves.  

    7/28/13 at 8:55am

    dougczar said:



    I have discussed this quite a bit over the last few months.  I don't think a review should consider price.  As a fragrance review, you are [supposedly] telling the reader something they don't already know - how it smells.  They can find the price for themselves.  You review the fragrance. They look at the review, and the price, and their financial situation, and their priorities, and decide for themselves whether it is worth it.

     

    Someone who makes $30k / year may not think GIT is worth the price, when you can get Cool Water for much less.  Someone who makes $400k / year may not care about the price difference, but wants the best smelling option.  Different resources, different priorities - the reviewer knows nothing about the audience or their personal factors, so they should really just stick to what they know - the fragrance they are reviewing.

     

    Also, fragrance reviews can stick around for years - the price of a fragrance may not stay the same.  At $315 / bottle, a review of a new Creed fragrance may be different than 10 years later if it can then be found in a lot of stores and discounters, and more competition may drive the price down, etc.  Basically, the reviewer can no more discuss the price as a factor any more than reviewing the fragrance based on a reformulation that hasn't happened yet.

     

    You know the fragrances - not your audience.  Discuss the smell, not my finances or priorities.

    7/28/13 at 9:29am

    Tony T said:



    price plays a major factor for me when I write reviews.

    7/28/13 at 11:26am

    Possum-Pie said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dougczar View Post

    I have discussed this quite a bit over the last few months.  I don't think a review should consider price.  As a fragrance review, you are [supposedly] telling the reader something they don't already know - how it smells.  They can find the price for themselves.  You review the fragrance. They look at the review, and the price, and their financial situation, and their priorities, and decide for themselves whether it is worth it.

    Someone who makes $30k / year may not think GIT is worth the price, when you can get Cool Water for much less.  Someone who makes $400k / year may not care about the price difference, but wants the best smelling option.  Different resources, different priorities - the reviewer knows nothing about the audience or their personal factors, so they should really just stick to what they know - the fragrance they are reviewing.

    Also, fragrance reviews can stick around for years - the price of a fragrance may not stay the same.  At $315 / bottle, a review of a new Creed fragrance may be different than 10 years later if it can then be found in a lot of stores and discounters, and more competition may drive the price down, etc.  Basically, the reviewer can no more discuss the price as a factor any more than reviewing the fragrance based on a reformulation that hasn't happened yet.

    You know the fragrances - not your audience.  Discuss the smell, not my finances or priorities.

    Dougczar, I've read your thoughts on this before, I remember now almost the exact same exchange. You make sense on most points, I am by no means unable to afford a frag. In fact If I want any fragrance out there, I will get it - price means nothing to me. VALUE however means everything. I think Donald Trump or Steve Jobs would think twice about paying $250 for a bottle of Old Spice. Is it a classic? Yes. Is it 'wearable?' Sure "would I own it?" Yes. Would I pay $250/bottle for it? Absolutely not. My reviews are primarily how nice the frag smells. BUT second is a mention of longevity. I don't care how nice something is, if it lasts 1/2hr. that is a function of value. If I have to buy an atomizer and re-spray myself 2 or 3 times over the work day just to smell it, that cuts into its value. Lastly is Value. Is it worth whatever price they are currently asking? Fragrantica has a nice system. when you review a frag, you move a slider for projection and longevity. You 'vote' on what season and time of day it works best in. No one should buy solely based on that, but there are far too many wonderful frags out there for me to fool with an expensive one that lasts 30 min. I DO however have some inexpensive ones that don't last...I feel better reapplying something that was 30cents/ml than something that was $3/ml.