Chandler Burr Untitled S01E10

    Chandler Burr Untitled S01E10

    post #1 of 258
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    Has anybody gotten this sucker? wink.gif

    Sorry for skipping out on everybody on S01E07. A lot of changes since then. Anyway, I saw Chandler's description of this one, and I was intrigued enough to get back in the game, if only for a while. We'll see what happens.

    Here is the description....
    Quote:
    I never expected to include a work like S01E10 in the Untitled Series because—and this is giving away quite a bit about the identity of the scent—I tend to be wary (with pretty good reason) of work by self-taught perfumers. I find this artist disconcerting. He strikes me as ridiculously talented, and as far as I can tell he came out of nowhere.

    The other startling thing for me is that this is a work created at full tilt in what is in my view a risky school; the problem with Romantic works is that they tend, by definition, to be overblown, melodramatic. Romantic literature—early to mid-1800s—and Romantic music—late 1800s to around the 1940—show the style’s strengths and weaknesses, the greatest of the weaknesses being, from the 21st century point of view, an earnest ingenuousness, a complete lack of cynicism. Cynicism is an endemic feature of turn-of-this-century culture and art. Given that the era is bookended by the highly corrupt Vietnam War and the mind-blowingly corrupt Iraq War, it’s warranted. So how do you pull off Romanticism today?

    By creating S01E10, it turns out. This is one of the greatest Byronesque beauties I’ve ever experienced. Windswept moors, cold rough seas, rocky cliffs tempest tossed, the genre’s entire panoply of tropes with no irony in sight, and yet you buy it, not (not for an instant) despite yourself but with a lifting soul, courage renewed, and a sense of adventure. If Robert Louis Stevenson had done a celebrity scent, this would have been it.

    It’s easy to knock off a discussion of the specs because they’re so good: persistence, diffusion, structure, stability—all excellent. Simple. The aesthetics are extraordinarily coherent.

    I should take this chance to remind us all how lucky we are. The wonderful thing about the artistic medium of scent is that it is closely analogous to the artistic medium of film: works done in it are, unlike works in paint or dance, highly reproducible and can be easily bought and taken home and experienced. Buy it.

    Cool. Chandler says this is the last one of the series - and that Series 2 starts in September.

    If anybody wants in, it's probably a bit late for me to send samples, but who knows. Let's see how fast I get my order. For those who would like to get in on it directly, it's only $35 - nice to see they're keeping it real.

    http://www.opensky.com/the-opensky-beauty-closet/product/the-untitled-series-s01e10





    And for those who are just wanting to watch the show, I'll do my best to describe this sucker.

    Think of this as a warm-up for Season 2 (*fingers crossed*) happy.gif
    post #2 of 258
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    PS - gotta say, I thought this was rather hilarious to come up when I was looking for the video link:



    With sponsored links like that, who needs sponsors? grin.gif
    post #3 of 258

    OMG Red you're back!!!!!vrolijk_26.gifHope you're well, I've missed your words!beer.gif

    Yes, I saw this too and was wondering if it's either Tauer or Slumberhouse.

    post #4 of 258
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IrinaView Post

    OMG Red you're back!!!!!vrolijk_26.gif
    Hope you're well, I've missed your words!beer.gif


    Yes, I saw this too and was wondering if it's either Tauer or Slumberhouse.

    Great to see you, Irina! cool.gif Yeah - I got pulled away, and it might end up happening again, but I figure I can try my best to get some more time in here.

    Cheers back atcha, amiga! beer.gif

    Tauer or S-house - either way, that would be a winner - I have deep respect for both. happy.gif

    I also have a couple of other possibilities in mind - the total number of possibilities being enough to keep this from being trivially easy.

    We'll see...... I will be on here with my impressions as soon as I get my nostrils on the stuff. And I don't care if Chandler's words lead me on a bit - I want to smell this stuff and FEEL the Romanticism! happy.gif
    post #5 of 258

    Ow hunnie, I hope you're taking it easy, I saw it another thread that it's your health! Please lmk if you need anything, many hugs!

    And as always looking forward to your impressions!tekst-toppie.gif

    post #6 of 258
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IrinaView Post

    Ow hunnie, I hope you're taking it easy, I saw it another thread that it's your health! Please lmk if you need anything, many hugs!

    And as always looking forward to your impressions!tekst-toppie.gif

    Yeah - it was a bunch of stuff (some of which falls under the category of "don't ask!"), but the health thing really nailed me at the end. Didn't know if I would ever come back. I had to give up using a mouse - G_d, I hate trackballs and ergonomic keyboards. wink.gif

    But as long as there is still such a thing as ibuprofen, I think I'm gonna be A-OK! cool.gif
    post #7 of 258

    Hi Redneck and everyone,

    September 30: We're going to move the Reveal of S01E10-- as you said, Red, it's the final episode of Season 1; Season 2 starts Oct 1, 2013-- to September 30 because August is pretty much vacation shut down and Labor Day is a late Sept 9 this year. Makes sense to reveal E10 at the end of September.

    I'm pretty stunned by E10, as you can tell. And by the identity of the perfumer and his background and of how he produces these. It's a pretty amazing collection.

    Season 2's Episodes 01, 02, 03, and 04 are all set to go. I've been working on sealing these deals for quite a long time.(Not easy. Although the Untitled Series has existed for a year, and the brands don't raise their eyebrows as high now when I propose it to them.) In Season 2 we'll be going back to major brands for a while.

    Thanks for playing, everyone.

    best,

    Chandler

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chandlerburrView Post

    Hi Redneck and everyone,

    September 30: We're going to move the Reveal of S01E10-- as you said, Red, it's the final episode of Season 1; Season 2 starts Oct 1, 2013-- to September 30 because August is pretty much vacation shut down and Labor Day is a late Sept 9 this year. Makes sense to reveal E10 at the end of September.

    I'm pretty stunned by E10, as you can tell. And by the identity of the perfumer and his background and of how he produces these. It's a pretty amazing collection.

    Season 2's Episodes 01, 02, 03, and 04 are all set to go. I've been working on sealing these deals for quite a long time.(Not easy. Although the Untitled Series has existed for a year, and the brands don't raise their eyebrows as high now when I propose it to them.) In Season 2 we'll be going back to major brands for a while.


    Thanks for playing, everyone.


    best,


    Chandler



    Thanks, Chandler! cool.gif

    Yes - my eyebrows went up at your reaction to this one, and I pretty much figured I needed to sniff this. I think this one could generate a LOT of discussion, too.

    Thanks for moving the date and giving us an extra month to gear up. I want to get some samples to my buddies, if at all possible. There is also another reason - my innate bias toward helping out small and/or underdog perfumers and/or brands - even if I don't know which one this is. Prada can miss a week or two of a small project for it's killer fragrance, Infusion d'Iris, and it's no biggie for either the perfumer or the patron. Not true for all perfumers or their makers. The extra time here may help a deserving fragrance and perfumer get the recognition it deserves.

    Of course, I may hate this fragrance, too. Or I may love it. It's all in the game! beer.gif
    post #9 of 258
    Ah, Mr. Burr, so the perfumer is independent and a "he!" Let's see....
    post #10 of 258
    ((((((Red))))), Mr Burr great to see you post and to hear that the discovery journey is moving on :)
    post #11 of 258

    Great to see Red reviving the Untitled series here. I didn't even realize it was still going on.

    Is it still not possible to participate from outside the US?

    I enjoyed following the discussion where I could, but admittedly some of it went completely over my head. I'll watch with interest and ask that, like before, people don't include spoilers in their posts without lots of fair warning!

    K

    post #12 of 258

    Red <<my innate bias toward helping out small and/or underdog perfumers>> You know, this strikes a real chord in me, but this comment is perhaps not the one you'd imagine. I'm not sure there's an underdog perfumer. Here's the thing: I am (very, very) lucky enough to know, and to work with, so many of the professional perfumers at the big houses, I bet you would feel like I do if you knew them. They sweat every project. They work nights, they work weekends, they leave their families for meetings, and they've always, always got the boss behind them. This is totally normal; I'm a (moderate) capitalist, it's a business, movie directors have their executives on their backs as well because the movie's got to "open" as they say in Hollywood, and so does the next Michael Kors. (And to make it even clearer, I think Michael Kors original is a gem.) The big perfumers at the big houses agonize, they doubt, they lose their paths, they claw their ways back on track, and they work like dogs.

    It's funny that it's E10 that's making me say this--though actually maybe it's totally appropriate, who knows--butI know that with their work, that comes out under the labels of these giant luxury brands, makes them seem less like the dreaming, idealistic, hardworking independent perfumers. But they're not, at all. They're artists and people and talents, art is their business, and their business is art and creativity, and they know the odds going in, but still they care about their creations, which may be gutted by the studio head or the creative director, just as much as E10's artist cares about E10. They're under huge corporate pressures and artistic controls, which, happily for him, he isn't, and this is my plea for us all to remember that Dominique and Calice and Annie and Rodrigo and Jerome and all the rest care passionately about their creative children; if their work is successful it will sell 10,000,000 bottles, or much more, and they'll have the ineffable pleasure of walking down 6th and smelling it coming out of an office building or going into a Starbucks or dashing to grab a taxi, and that's an incredible thrill. They make much, much more money than E10 (the artist). But E10 has the freedom. He answers to himself. If he moves 400 bottles in a year at one door, he's really psyched, he's one millionth of their sales, it's an utterly different scale, but it's absolutely, entirely him, making the calls. And E10 (the work) is his entirely.

    We're all human. We're all just in different circumstances. We all feel the same things about our work.

    Irina, the discovery journey is absolutely moving on, and part of the reason I was so absent from these conversations during Season 1 is that it's been an incredibly tough, time-consuming, grueling process putting the Series together. Now we're finally in ship shape. We--my Open Sky person, Alyse Diamond, and I-- have got the OS web guys to put the final touches on, and our storefront is organized, ordered, and looking great---http://www.opensky.com/member/chandlerburr?content=loves. Wasn't easy. But I think it looks terrific, and I've landed works I've been chasing that will be showing up there and take us into 2014.

    <<Ah, Mr. Burr, so the perfumer is independent and a "he!" Let's see....>> Yeah, Tree, I figured I'd give a bit on the identity hint thing on this one. That said, let's definitely hear Kagey (and I'm bummed to say that the shipping restraints on alcohol and flammable liquids basically lock us out of opening the project to those overseas, K) on the spoilers<<without lots of fair warning!>>. That said...if you give warning, give us your shot! Absolutely. If you think you've nailed the juice, say "spoiler alert!" and then let us know. Remember, this one is very recently launched, so I'll be impressed if you get it, but I'm sure you knew instantly, those of you who've smelled E10, that it's not by, say, Sarah, just categorically not her style. Also E10 is a he, but even just by style you would have gotten it. Also--oh, the hell with that, I've already said male and independent. That's a good start!

    best,

    Chandler

    post #13 of 258
    And thanks again for taking the time to write here-- it's great to have an inside perspective when so much is speculative and misinformed.
    post #14 of 258
    Ok, I got so excited about this concept that I just boclass="

    8/11/13 at 7:35pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    Has anybody gotten this sucker? wink.gif

    Sorry for skipping out on everybody on S01E07. A lot of changes since then. Anyway, I saw Chandler's description of this one, and I was intrigued enough to get back in the game, if only for a while. We'll see what happens.

    Here is the description....
    Quote:
    I never expected to include a work like S01E10 in the Untitled Series because—and this is giving away quite a bit about the identity of the scent—I tend to be wary (with pretty good reason) of work by self-taught perfumers. I find this artist disconcerting. He strikes me as ridiculously talented, and as far as I can tell he came out of nowhere.

    The other startling thing for me is that this is a work created at full tilt in what is in my view a risky school; the problem with Romantic works is that they tend, by definition, to be overblown, melodramatic. Romantic literature—early to mid-1800s—and Romantic music—late 1800s to around the 1940—show the style’s strengths and weaknesses, the greatest of the weaknesses being, from the 21st century point of view, an earnest ingenuousness, a complete lack of cynicism. Cynicism is an endemic feature of turn-of-this-century culture and art. Given that the era is bookended by the highly corrupt Vietnam War and the mind-blowingly corrupt Iraq War, it’s warranted. So how do you pull off Romanticism today?

    By creating S01E10, it turns out. This is one of the greatest Byronesque beauties I’ve ever experienced. Windswept moors, cold rough seas, rocky cliffs tempest tossed, the genre’s entire panoply of tropes with no irony in sight, and yet you buy it, not (not for an instant) despite yourself but with a lifting soul, courage renewed, and a sense of adventure. If Robert Louis Stevenson had done a celebrity scent, this would have been it.

    It’s easy to knock off a discussion of the specs because they’re so good: persistence, diffusion, structure, stability—all excellent. Simple. The aesthetics are extraordinarily coherent.

    I should take this chance to remind us all how lucky we are. The wonderful thing about the artistic medium of scent is that it is closely analogous to the artistic medium of film: works done in it are, unlike works in paint or dance, highly reproducible and can be easily bought and taken home and experienced. Buy it.

    Cool. Chandler says this is the last one of the series - and that Series 2 starts in September.

    If anybody wants in, it's probably a bit late for me to send samples, but who knows. Let's see how fast I get my order. For those who would like to get in on it directly, it's only $35 - nice to see they're keeping it real.

    http://www.opensky.com/the-opensky-beauty-closet/product/the-untitled-series-s01e10





    And for those who are just wanting to watch the show, I'll do my best to describe this sucker.

    Think of this as a warm-up for Season 2 (*fingers crossed*) happy.gif

    8/11/13 at 8:06pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    PS - gotta say, I thought this was rather hilarious to come up when I was looking for the video link:



    With sponsored links like that, who needs sponsors? grin.gif

    8/12/13 at 12:53am

    Irina said:



    OMG Red you're back!!!!!vrolijk_26.gifHope you're well, I've missed your words!beer.gif

    Yes, I saw this too and was wondering if it's either Tauer or Slumberhouse.

    8/12/13 at 1:17am

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IrinaView Post

    OMG Red you're back!!!!!vrolijk_26.gif
    Hope you're well, I've missed your words!beer.gif


    Yes, I saw this too and was wondering if it's either Tauer or Slumberhouse.

    Great to see you, Irina! cool.gif Yeah - I got pulled away, and it might end up happening again, but I figure I can try my best to get some more time in here.

    Cheers back atcha, amiga! beer.gif

    Tauer or S-house - either way, that would be a winner - I have deep respect for both. happy.gif

    I also have a couple of other possibilities in mind - the total number of possibilities being enough to keep this from being trivially easy.

    We'll see...... I will be on here with my impressions as soon as I get my nostrils on the stuff. And I don't care if Chandler's words lead me on a bit - I want to smell this stuff and FEEL the Romanticism! happy.gif

    8/12/13 at 1:21am

    Irina said:



    Ow hunnie, I hope you're taking it easy, I saw it another thread that it's your health! Please lmk if you need anything, many hugs!

    And as always looking forward to your impressions!tekst-toppie.gif

    8/12/13 at 1:33am

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IrinaView Post

    Ow hunnie, I hope you're taking it easy, I saw it another thread that it's your health! Please lmk if you need anything, many hugs!

    And as always looking forward to your impressions!tekst-toppie.gif

    Yeah - it was a bunch of stuff (some of which falls under the category of "don't ask!"), but the health thing really nailed me at the end. Didn't know if I would ever come back. I had to give up using a mouse - G_d, I hate trackballs and ergonomic keyboards. wink.gif

    But as long as there is still such a thing as ibuprofen, I think I'm gonna be A-OK! cool.gif

    8/12/13 at 8:35am

    chandlerburr said:



    Hi Redneck and everyone,

    September 30: We're going to move the Reveal of S01E10-- as you said, Red, it's the final episode of Season 1; Season 2 starts Oct 1, 2013-- to September 30 because August is pretty much vacation shut down and Labor Day is a late Sept 9 this year. Makes sense to reveal E10 at the end of September.

    I'm pretty stunned by E10, as you can tell. And by the identity of the perfumer and his background and of how he produces these. It's a pretty amazing collection.

    Season 2's Episodes 01, 02, 03, and 04 are all set to go. I've been working on sealing these deals for quite a long time.(Not easy. Although the Untitled Series has existed for a year, and the brands don't raise their eyebrows as high now when I propose it to them.) In Season 2 we'll be going back to major brands for a while.

    Thanks for playing, everyone.

    best,

    Chandler

    8/12/13 at 7:10pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chandlerburrView Post

    Hi Redneck and everyone,

    September 30: We're going to move the Reveal of S01E10-- as you said, Red, it's the final episode of Season 1; Season 2 starts Oct 1, 2013-- to September 30 because August is pretty much vacation shut down and Labor Day is a late Sept 9 this year. Makes sense to reveal E10 at the end of September.

    I'm pretty stunned by E10, as you can tell. And by the identity of the perfumer and his background and of how he produces these. It's a pretty amazing collection.

    Season 2's Episodes 01, 02, 03, and 04 are all set to go. I've been working on sealing these deals for quite a long time.(Not easy. Although the Untitled Series has existed for a year, and the brands don't raise their eyebrows as high now when I propose it to them.) In Season 2 we'll be going back to major brands for a while.


    Thanks for playing, everyone.


    best,


    Chandler



    Thanks, Chandler! cool.gif

    Yes - my eyebrows went up at your reaction to this one, and I pretty much figured I needed to sniff this. I think this one could generate a LOT of discussion, too.

    Thanks for moving the date and giving us an extra month to gear up. I want to get some samples to my buddies, if at all possible. There is also another reason - my innate bias toward helping out small and/or underdog perfumers and/or brands - even if I don't know which one this is. Prada can miss a week or two of a small project for it's killer fragrance, Infusion d'Iris, and it's no biggie for either the perfumer or the patron. Not true for all perfumers or their makers. The extra time here may help a deserving fragrance and perfumer get the recognition it deserves.

    Of course, I may hate this fragrance, too. Or I may love it. It's all in the game! beer.gif

    8/12/13 at 11:13pm

    treeman5823 said:



    Ah, Mr. Burr, so the perfumer is independent and a "he!" Let's see....

    8/13/13 at 1:28am

    Irina said:



    ((((((Red))))), Mr Burr great to see you post and to hear that the discovery journey is moving on :)

    8/13/13 at 4:32am

    Kagey said:



    Great to see Red reviving the Untitled series here. I didn't even realize it was still going on.

    Is it still not possible to participate from outside the US?

    I enjoyed following the discussion where I could, but admittedly some of it went completely over my head. I'll watch with interest and ask that, like before, people don't include spoilers in their posts without lots of fair warning!

    K

    8/13/13 at 7:49am

    chandlerburr said:



    Red <<my innate bias toward helping out small and/or underdog perfumers>> You know, this strikes a real chord in me, but this comment is perhaps not the one you'd imagine. I'm not sure there's an underdog perfumer. Here's the thing: I am (very, very) lucky enough to know, and to work with, so many of the professional perfumers at the big houses, I bet you would feel like I do if you knew them. They sweat every project. They work nights, they work weekends, they leave their families for meetings, and they've always, always got the boss behind them. This is totally normal; I'm a (moderate) capitalist, it's a business, movie directors have their executives on their backs as well because the movie's got to "open" as they say in Hollywood, and so does the next Michael Kors. (And to make it even clearer, I think Michael Kors original is a gem.) The big perfumers at the big houses agonize, they doubt, they lose their paths, they claw their ways back on track, and they work like dogs.

    It's funny that it's E10 that's making me say this--though actually maybe it's totally appropriate, who knows--butI know that with their work, that comes out under the labels of these giant luxury brands, makes them seem less like the dreaming, idealistic, hardworking independent perfumers. But they're not, at all. They're artists and people and talents, art is their business, and their business is art and creativity, and they know the odds going in, but still they care about their creations, which may be gutted by the studio head or the creative director, just as much as E10's artist cares about E10. They're under huge corporate pressures and artistic controls, which, happily for him, he isn't, and this is my plea for us all to remember that Dominique and Calice and Annie and Rodrigo and Jerome and all the rest care passionately about their creative children; if their work is successful it will sell 10,000,000 bottles, or much more, and they'll have the ineffable pleasure of walking down 6th and smelling it coming out of an office building or going into a Starbucks or dashing to grab a taxi, and that's an incredible thrill. They make much, much more money than E10 (the artist). But E10 has the freedom. He answers to himself. If he moves 400 bottles in a year at one door, he's really psyched, he's one millionth of their sales, it's an utterly different scale, but it's absolutely, entirely him, making the calls. And E10 (the work) is his entirely.

    We're all human. We're all just in different circumstances. We all feel the same things about our work.

    Irina, the discovery journey is absolutely moving on, and part of the reason I was so absent from these conversations during Season 1 is that it's been an incredibly tough, time-consuming, grueling process putting the Series together. Now we're finally in ship shape. We--my Open Sky person, Alyse Diamond, and I-- have got the OS web guys to put the final touches on, and our storefront is organized, ordered, and looking great---http://www.opensky.com/member/chandlerburr?content=loves. Wasn't easy. But I think it looks terrific, and I've landed works I've been chasing that will be showing up there and take us into 2014.

    <<Ah, Mr. Burr, so the perfumer is independent and a "he!" Let's see....>> Yeah, Tree, I figured I'd give a bit on the identity hint thing on this one. That said, let's definitely hear Kagey (and I'm bummed to say that the shipping restraints on alcohol and flammable liquids basically lock us out of opening the project to those overseas, K) on the spoilers<<without lots of fair warning!>>. That said...if you give warning, give us your shot! Absolutely. If you think you've nailed the juice, say "spoiler alert!" and then let us know. Remember, this one is very recently launched, so I'll be impressed if you get it, but I'm sure you knew instantly, those of you who've smelled E10, that it's not by, say, Sarah, just categorically not her style. Also E10 is a he, but even just by style you would have gotten it. Also--oh, the hell with that, I've already said male and independent. That's a good start!

    best,

    Chandler

    8/13/13 at 7:57am

    treeman5823 said:



    And thanks again for taking the time to write here-- it's great to have an inside perspective when so much is speculative and misinformed.

    8/13/13 at 8:21am

    markc said:



    Ok, I got so excited about this concept that I just boclass="