Which ones are the best base and middle notes for extremely hot and humid weathers?

    Which ones are the best base and middle notes for extremely hot and humid weathers?

    post #1 of 15
    Thread Starter 

    I live in a Caribbean Island, the perfumes that normally, in colder weathers, smell beautiful, here they turn so strong and awful.  

     

     

    What is the right base note to create a perfume for extremely hot weathers? I am very new on this hobby and I will try to make my own when I get my essences biggrin.gif  what essences do you recommend me for the base and middle notes.

     

    A happy weekend for everybody.

    post #2 of 15

    I'd say vetiver. Vetiver perfumes were originally developed for hot tropical countries.

     

    cacio

    post #3 of 15

    I'd imagine that the heat is causing the top and middle notes to evaporate too quickly. The answer might be to simply add more fixatives.

    post #4 of 15
    Thread Starter 
    Thanks so much!
    post #5 of 15
    Galbanum as well.

    Galbanum and vetiver just go hand in hand.
    post #6 of 15
    Thread Starter 
    How do you think it can work with some flower's notes?
    post #7 of 15
    Coincidentally I just explored and reviewed, and throughgly enjoyed , perfumes with the above topic:

    Floral Vetiver :

    Vetiverus - Oliver & Co (try Diptyque's Vetyverio if you can)

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/372211/oliver-and-co-vetiverus#post_3122384


    Floral Galbanum :

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/378728/heure-exquise-annick-goutal
    post #8 of 15

    So for basenotes of medium strength, try

    Benzyl salicylate,

    Pemou root (vetiver similar but milder),

     

    all of the muguet floral family:

    Florhydral

    Majantol

    Dimethyl Phenylethyl Carbinol

    Melafleur

    Lillial

    Muguesia

    Meijiff

    Muguetanol

    And a bit of Lyral maybe, but careful about it's allergenic traits

    Hydroxycitronellal and Hydroxycitronellal Dimethyl Acetal

     

    Magnolia-like elements:

    Michaelia Alba EO

    Magnolan

    Magnolione

    Magnolys

     

    Many of the above ARE basenotes, some are middle notes, and everything listed after Pemou root are florals too.

     

     

    You could also certainly try other florals of Jasmine, Hedione, Rose, Frangipani, Gardenia and Tuberose

    post #9 of 15
    Thread Starter 
    This list is
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    So for basenotes of medium strength, try
    Benzyl salicylate,
    Pemou root (vetiver similar but milder),

    all of the muguet floral family:
    Florhydral
    Majantol
    Dimethyl Phenylethyl Carbinol
    Melafleur
    Lillial
    Muguesia
    Meijiff
    Muguetanol

    And a bit of Lyral maybe, but careful about it's allergenic traits

    Hydroxycitronellal and Hydroxycitronellal Dimethyl Acetal


    Magnolia-like elements:

    Michaelia Alba EO

    Magnolan

    Magnolione

    Magnolys


    Many of the above ARE basenotes, some are middle notes, and everything listed after Pemou root are florals too.


    You could also certainly try other florals of Jasmine, Hedione, Rose, Frangipani, Gardenia and Tuberose

    Thanks s much for this list is so helpful. I will order some of this fragrances to complete the kit I am ordering. I can't wait to try them all.
    post #10 of 15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by caribbeanisland View Post

    This list is

     

     

    You're Welcome

    post #11 of 15

    It's a clever idea, to use the deeper smelling florals in such an instance. If you use floral absolutes, they will also tend to evaporate more slowly than essential oils in such heat.
     

    post #12 of 15
    Thread Starter 

    Sorry for the so many quotes and replays, I was trying to write in my ipad that this list is wonderful!! Thanks a lot 

    post #13 of 15
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pears View Post

    It's a clever idea, to use the deeper smelling florals in such an instance. If you use floral absolutes, they will also tend to evaporate more slowly than essential oils in such heat.
     

    Thanks for the tip, I thought was the opposite. Its very helpful

    post #14 of 15

    Yeah, an IPAD isn't a computer, is it?  It's just a very expensive rather useless toy to me.

     

    Waiting for it's day to be up, personally...

     

    Do you by chance know Dr. Joel Smolanoff, in Dominica?

    He might have some other ideas, same with Juan Perez:

    http://www.cafleurebon.com/a-journey-through-juan-m-perezs-exotic-island-perfumers-flower-garden-sample-set-draw/

    post #15 of 15
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    Yeah, an IPAD isn't a computer, is it?  It's just a very expensive rather useless toy to me.

     

    Waiting for it's day to be up, personally...

     

    Do you by chance know Dr. Joel Smolanoff, in Dominica?

    He might have some other ideas, same with Juan Perez:

    http://www.cafleurebon.com/a-journey-through-juan-m-perezs-exotic-island-perfumers-flower-garden-sample-set-draw/

    Oh No, LOL, I love my iPad I didn't wanted one, but I got it as a present, and since then I just love it, I travel a lot, and I am an avid reader, so before I was carrying around my books, now I have my whole library with me all the time. But I guess is not so good for typing LOL.

     

    I live in Dominican Republic, Dominica is an other island. 

    I am reading the link is amazing, I want to try his perfumes already.

     

    I am so exited about this new world of essences,  I am paying conscious attention to the natural fragrances around me I am discovering a whole new universe. This morning in the heavy rain everything was smelling different. Thanks for all your help 

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    8/16/13 at 12:03pm

    caribbeanisland said:



    I live in a Caribbean Island, the perfumes that normally, in colder weathers, smell beautiful, here they turn so strong and awful.  

     

     

    What is the right base note to create a perfume for extremely hot weathers? I am very new on this hobby and I will try to make my own when I get my essences biggrin.gif  what essences do you recommend me for the base and middle notes.

     

    A happy weekend for everybody.

    8/16/13 at 7:49pm

    cacio said:



    I'd say vetiver. Vetiver perfumes were originally developed for hot tropical countries.

     

    cacio

    8/17/13 at 8:09am

    Pears said:



    I'd imagine that the heat is causing the top and middle notes to evaporate too quickly. The answer might be to simply add more fixatives.

    8/17/13 at 8:19am

    caribbeanisland said:



    Thanks so much!

    8/17/13 at 8:49pm

    hedonist222 said:



    Galbanum as well.

    Galbanum and vetiver just go hand in hand.

    8/17/13 at 9:49pm

    caribbeanisland said:



    How do you think it can work with some flower's notes?

    8/17/13 at 10:27pm

    hedonist222 said:



    Coincidentally I just explored and reviewed, and throughgly enjoyed , perfumes with the above topic:

    Floral Vetiver :

    Vetiverus - Oliver & Co (try Diptyque's Vetyverio if you can)

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/372211/oliver-and-co-vetiverus#post_3122384


    Floral Galbanum :

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/378728/heure-exquise-annick-goutal

    8/17/13 at 11:50pm

    pkiler said:



    So for basenotes of medium strength, try

    Benzyl salicylate,

    Pemou root (vetiver similar but milder),

     

    all of the muguet floral family:

    Florhydral

    Majantol

    Dimethyl Phenylethyl Carbinol

    Melafleur

    Lillial

    Muguesia

    Meijiff

    Muguetanol

    And a bit of Lyral maybe, but careful about it's allergenic traits

    Hydroxycitronellal and Hydroxycitronellal Dimethyl Acetal

     

    Magnolia-like elements:

    Michaelia Alba EO

    Magnolan

    Magnolione

    Magnolys

     

    Many of the above ARE basenotes, some are middle notes, and everything listed after Pemou root are florals too.

     

     

    You could also certainly try other florals of Jasmine, Hedione, Rose, Frangipani, Gardenia and Tuberose

    8/18/13 at 4:11pm

    caribbeanisland said:



    This list is
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    So for basenotes of medium strength, try
    Benzyl salicylate,
    Pemou root (vetiver similar but milder),

    all of the muguet floral family:
    Florhydral
    Majantol
    Dimethyl Phenylethyl Carbinol
    Melafleur
    Lillial
    Muguesia
    Meijiff
    Muguetanol

    And a bit of Lyral maybe, but careful about it's allergenic traits

    Hydroxycitronellal and Hydroxycitronellal Dimethyl Acetal


    Magnolia-like elements:

    Michaelia Alba EO

    Magnolan

    Magnolione

    Magnolys


    Many of the above ARE basenotes, some are middle notes, and everything listed after Pemou root are florals too.


    You could also certainly try other florals of Jasmine, Hedione, Rose, Frangipani, Gardenia and Tuberose

    Thanks s much for this list is so helpful. I will order some of this fragrances to complete the kit I am ordering. I can't wait to try them all.

    8/18/13 at 7:22pm

    pkiler said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by caribbeanisland View Post

    This list is

     

     

    You're Welcome

    8/19/13 at 1:55am

    Pears said:



    It's a clever idea, to use the deeper smelling florals in such an instance. If you use floral absolutes, they will also tend to evaporate more slowly than essential oils in such heat.
     

    8/19/13 at 7:05am

    caribbeanisland said:



    Sorry for the so many quotes and replays, I was trying to write in my ipad that this list is wonderful!! Thanks a lot 

    8/19/13 at 7:05am

    caribbeanisland said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pears View Post

    It's a clever idea, to use the deeper smelling florals in such an instance. If you use floral absolutes, they will also tend to evaporate more slowly than essential oils in such heat.
     

    Thanks for the tip, I thought was the opposite. Its very helpful

    8/19/13 at 7:13am

    pkiler said:



    Yeah, an IPAD isn't a computer, is it?  It's just a very expensive rather useless toy to me.

     

    Waiting for it's day to be up, personally...

     

    Do you by chance know Dr. Joel Smolanoff, in Dominica?

    He might have some other ideas, same with Juan Perez:

    http://www.cafleurebon.com/a-journey-through-juan-m-perezs-exotic-island-perfumers-flower-garden-sample-set-draw/

    8/20/13 at 5:30pm

    caribbeanisland said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    Yeah, an IPAD isn't a computer, is it?  It's just a very expensive rather useless toy to me.

     

    Waiting for it's day to be up, personally...

     

    Do you by chance know Dr. Joel Smolanoff, in Dominica?

    He might have some other ideas, same with Juan Perez:

    http://www.cafleurebon.com/a-journey-through-juan-m-perezs-exotic-island-perfumers-flower-garden-sample-set-draw/

    Oh No, LOL, I love my iPad I didn't wanted one, but I got it as a present, and since then I just love it, I travel a lot, and I am an avid reader, so before I was carrying around my books, now I have my whole library with me all the time. But I guess is not so good for typing LOL.

     

    I live in Dominican Republic, Dominica is an other island. 

    I am reading the link is amazing, I want to try his perfumes already.

     

    I am so exited about this new world of essences,  I am paying conscious attention to the natural fragrances around me I am discovering a whole new universe. This morning in the heavy rain everything was smelling different. Thanks for all your help