Fragrance Directory Is Poorly Designed

    Fragrance Directory Is Poorly Designed

    post #1 of 11
    Thread Starter 

    In the interest of improving the usefulness of the Fragrance Directory, I offer this small narrative. I will describe my experience of trying to find information on a perfume that I would like to know more about to illustrate how awkward and difficult the fragrance directory is to navigate.

     

    I find a listing on the sale forum for Dior VĂ©tiver. I don't know anything about it. I didn't know Dior made a vetiver. But I'm very interested. I want to know more. 

     

    1. I go home to basenotes.net, and am presented with the home page, where I see first a moving strip of images: The Power to Make your Heart Kinder - The Japanese Kodo Ceremony, various launches, interviews, what I would call industry-related news. Not particularly interested. Below it, a bunch of Featured Content. My guess is this is sponsored stuff. Not interested. 
    2. I click on Fragrance Directory. A directory? Good. That's where I will be able to look up information. I see: the word 

      Fragrances

       in a large font. Then a headline Pleasantly into the night  with an image of a bottle. I still don't know what I'm looking at. Then I see: A review on: Emporio Armani Night He by Giorgio Armani, 2003. Oh, not what I was looking for. Not interested. Wondering already why I am being presented with this. Underneath that: Pros: The ultimate minimalist-stylish bottle design. Okay, definitely not interested. That's the last thing I care about, and why am I even looking at Giorgio Armani anything? 

    3. I scroll down past three images captioned with headlines, a Pro/Con summary below each. Okay, a peach of a scent, Vetiveryo yeah I know that one, ew, there's Polo Red. Not interested. 

    4. Okay, now I see it! Or do I? It's a list of 21,492 items, way more than any navigable list should ever have. Sorted by Most Popular. Okay, Shalimar there you are. "Hi, Shalimar!" So where to I put in my search term? 

    5. Manufacturer? Okay, Dior. I enter "dior." Nothing. But everything scrunches up and I now see a huge column of Release Dates with tick boxes beside each, with 1669 at the top. Completely useless. I'm thinking at this point, "...on the old fragrance directory I would already be reading foetidus' review of Dior Vetiver."

    6. I try "vetiver." Oh, yeah, it says Manufacturer. Why can't it just narrow down the search terms itself? 

    7. Oh, okay. CHRISTIAN Dior. There we go. 100 Results. Hypnotic Poison at the top. How do I narrow it down?

    8. I see more lists on the left. Launched Date? Don't know that. Availability? Don't know. Perfumer? Don't know. Gender? Funny, I don't even know that. 

    9. At this point, I'm almost ready to give up. I admit there's a lot of Diors and a lot of Vetivers, but I'm still not satisfied. I'm also not sure if I'm even going to get results which are only reviews or just any old mention of "Dior" or "Vetiver" when I enter these into the "Search forums, user reviews and articles" field which is still taunting me in the upper right corner of my screen. That magnifying glass will help. But at this point I'm willing to try anything. 

    10. I enter "dior vetiver" in that field. Now we're in business. Results 1 to 25 of 9681. That's a lot. First one is... oh, Male Fragrance Discussion. So a forum discussion. Oh, wait,there it is way on the left. Further result refinement. Threads? 9528. No. Products? YES!! It's a product. Only one result. Finally, I have found it.

     

     

    These are my thoughts: I want a site to be clear, uncluttered and navigable. I feel like my intelligence is being insulted when I'm presented with "something else?" I might be interested in instead of being able to easily find EXACTLY what I am looking for. That is what a directory is for. From the moment I click on "Fragrance Directory" I want no more distraction. I know what number I'm looking for in the phone book. I'm not in the Yellow Pages, I'm in the White Pages. I don't want to look at ads, or banners, or anything but an easy-to-navigate step-by-step refinement of my search until I find what I am looking for. THAT is what the old site allowed me to do, and THAT is where the new one fails. 

    post #2 of 11

    As a librarian, the set up of the search options and the structure of the search results, is making my eye twitch. It needs work. (The directory, not my eye tongue.gif)

    post #3 of 11

    everything can't be perfect

    post #4 of 11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by furrypine View Post

    As a librarian, the set up of the search options and the structure of the search results, is making my eye twitch. It needs work. (The directory, not my eye tongue.gif )
    LOL!
    post #5 of 11

    I second these thoughts, and have privately sent Grant an email with much the same message.  By the way, the ideal would be to make any and every mention of a frag a live link that if clicked, takes us right to its history of reviews.  One click- done.  

    post #6 of 11

    I have to agree with the OP.

     

    The fragrance directory is far from quick and easy to use; it definitely needs some tweaking please Grant.

    post #7 of 11
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tony T View Post

    everything can't be perfect

    I don't recall implying that it could be. Things can, however, improve.

    post #8 of 11

    It seems it depends very much on the fragrance that you are looking for. If you type "Dior Homme" into the search field the search will guide you quickly to the reviews page. It seems like reviews of popular fragrances can be found more easily. Or does it depend on the number of reviews? What kind of algorithm is behind this? Should it be re-worked?

     

    A search that runs exclusively on the perfume pages, or that separates the results according to the different sections of BN could be an idea.

     

    Generally, I find there has been a considerabel change in the focus of BN over the last five years. It was directed away from the fragrance reviews and towards the forum activities. While the number of forum posts seemed to increase incredibly, the number of new reviews seemed to have dropped. I think if there was a deliberate decision behind it the BN owner should think twice.

     

    For a good perfume review, people sit down and take effort. They are of use for many years, and they should be easy to find. A forum post very often is some random thought, and nobody cares if it vanishes in the depth of a forum software after a few weeks.

     

    The perfume communities with their fragrance directories are the best frame for perfume reviews - no matter if you choose Basenotes, Parfumo, Fragrantica or even Osmoz. If we all seperate into own private blogs or limit ourselves to posts in forums or faceboook groups, then it eventually will be hard work if you want to find some opinions about a specific perfume.

     

    IMHO, perfume reviews should stand in the main focus of BN.

    post #9 of 11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by professor goggles View Post

    Things can, however, improve.
    And my bet is that they will over time, but the process might take a bit longer than expected.
    post #10 of 11
    Quote:Originally Posted by Apicius View Post

    ........"Generally, I find there has been a considerabel change in the focus of BN over the last five years. It was directed away from the fragrance reviews and towards the forum activities. While the number of forum posts seemed to increase incredibly, the number of new reviews seemed to have dropped. I think if there was a deliberate decision behind it the BN owner should think twice."

     

     

    In recent months, it would appear that some of the more prolific (and excellent!) reviewers have taken a sabbatical.

     

     

    post #11 of 11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HDD8 View Post
     

    Let's hope for the best!

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    8/19/13 at 2:40am

    professor goggles said:



    In the interest of improving the usefulness of the Fragrance Directory, I offer this small narrative. I will describe my experience of trying to find information on a perfume that I would like to know more about to illustrate how awkward and difficult the fragrance directory is to navigate.

     

    I find a listing on the sale forum for Dior VĂ©tiver. I don't know anything about it. I didn't know Dior made a vetiver. But I'm very interested. I want to know more. 

     

    1. I go home to basenotes.net, and am presented with the home page, where I see first a moving strip of images: The Power to Make your Heart Kinder - The Japanese Kodo Ceremony, various launches, interviews, what I would call industry-related news. Not particularly interested. Below it, a bunch of Featured Content. My guess is this is sponsored stuff. Not interested. 
    2. I click on Fragrance Directory. A directory? Good. That's where I will be able to look up information. I see: the word 

      Fragrances

       in a large font. Then a headline Pleasantly into the night  with an image of a bottle. I still don't know what I'm looking at. Then I see: A review on: Emporio Armani Night He by Giorgio Armani, 2003. Oh, not what I was looking for. Not interested. Wondering already why I am being presented with this. Underneath that: Pros: The ultimate minimalist-stylish bottle design. Okay, definitely not interested. That's the last thing I care about, and why am I even looking at Giorgio Armani anything? 

    3. I scroll down past three images captioned with headlines, a Pro/Con summary below each. Okay, a peach of a scent, Vetiveryo yeah I know that one, ew, there's Polo Red. Not interested. 

    4. Okay, now I see it! Or do I? It's a list of 21,492 items, way more than any navigable list should ever have. Sorted by Most Popular. Okay, Shalimar there you are. "Hi, Shalimar!" So where to I put in my search term? 

    5. Manufacturer? Okay, Dior. I enter "dior." Nothing. But everything scrunches up and I now see a huge column of Release Dates with tick boxes beside each, with 1669 at the top. Completely useless. I'm thinking at this point, "...on the old fragrance directory I would already be reading foetidus' review of Dior Vetiver."

    6. I try "vetiver." Oh, yeah, it says Manufacturer. Why can't it just narrow down the search terms itself? 

    7. Oh, okay. CHRISTIAN Dior. There we go. 100 Results. Hypnotic Poison at the top. How do I narrow it down?

    8. I see more lists on the left. Launched Date? Don't know that. Availability? Don't know. Perfumer? Don't know. Gender? Funny, I don't even know that. 

    9. At this point, I'm almost ready to give up. I admit there's a lot of Diors and a lot of Vetivers, but I'm still not satisfied. I'm also not sure if I'm even going to get results which are only reviews or just any old mention of "Dior" or "Vetiver" when I enter these into the "Search forums, user reviews and articles" field which is still taunting me in the upper right corner of my screen. That magnifying glass will help. But at this point I'm willing to try anything. 

    10. I enter "dior vetiver" in that field. Now we're in business. Results 1 to 25 of 9681. That's a lot. First one is... oh, Male Fragrance Discussion. So a forum discussion. Oh, wait,there it is way on the left. Further result refinement. Threads? 9528. No. Products? YES!! It's a product. Only one result. Finally, I have found it.

     

     

    These are my thoughts: I want a site to be clear, uncluttered and navigable. I feel like my intelligence is being insulted when I'm presented with "something else?" I might be interested in instead of being able to easily find EXACTLY what I am looking for. That is what a directory is for. From the moment I click on "Fragrance Directory" I want no more distraction. I know what number I'm looking for in the phone book. I'm not in the Yellow Pages, I'm in the White Pages. I don't want to look at ads, or banners, or anything but an easy-to-navigate step-by-step refinement of my search until I find what I am looking for. THAT is what the old site allowed me to do, and THAT is where the new one fails. 

    8/24/13 at 5:51am

    furrypine said:



    As a librarian, the set up of the search options and the structure of the search results, is making my eye twitch. It needs work. (The directory, not my eye tongue.gif)

    8/24/13 at 8:05am

    Tony T said:



    everything can't be perfect

    8/24/13 at 12:23pm

    hednic said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by furrypine View Post

    As a librarian, the set up of the search options and the structure of the search results, is making my eye twitch. It needs work. (The directory, not my eye tongue.gif )
    LOL!

    8/24/13 at 12:56pm

    AdamOhio said:



    I second these thoughts, and have privately sent Grant an email with much the same message.  By the way, the ideal would be to make any and every mention of a frag a live link that if clicked, takes us right to its history of reviews.  One click- done.  

    8/26/13 at 1:18am

    HDD8 said:



    I have to agree with the OP.

     

    The fragrance directory is far from quick and easy to use; it definitely needs some tweaking please Grant.

    8/26/13 at 5:42am

    professor goggles said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tony T View Post

    everything can't be perfect

    I don't recall implying that it could be. Things can, however, improve.

    8/26/13 at 8:17am

    Apicius said:



    It seems it depends very much on the fragrance that you are looking for. If you type "Dior Homme" into the search field the search will guide you quickly to the reviews page. It seems like reviews of popular fragrances can be found more easily. Or does it depend on the number of reviews? What kind of algorithm is behind this? Should it be re-worked?

     

    A search that runs exclusively on the perfume pages, or that separates the results according to the different sections of BN could be an idea.

     

    Generally, I find there has been a considerabel change in the focus of BN over the last five years. It was directed away from the fragrance reviews and towards the forum activities. While the number of forum posts seemed to increase incredibly, the number of new reviews seemed to have dropped. I think if there was a deliberate decision behind it the BN owner should think twice.

     

    For a good perfume review, people sit down and take effort. They are of use for many years, and they should be easy to find. A forum post very often is some random thought, and nobody cares if it vanishes in the depth of a forum software after a few weeks.

     

    The perfume communities with their fragrance directories are the best frame for perfume reviews - no matter if you choose Basenotes, Parfumo, Fragrantica or even Osmoz. If we all seperate into own private blogs or limit ourselves to posts in forums or faceboook groups, then it eventually will be hard work if you want to find some opinions about a specific perfume.

     

    IMHO, perfume reviews should stand in the main focus of BN.

    8/26/13 at 8:22am

    hednic said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by professor goggles View Post

    Things can, however, improve.
    And my bet is that they will over time, but the process might take a bit longer than expected.

    8/26/13 at 10:28am

    HDD8 said:



    Quote:Originally Posted by Apicius View Post

    ........"Generally, I find there has been a considerabel change in the focus of BN over the last five years. It was directed away from the fragrance reviews and towards the forum activities. While the number of forum posts seemed to increase incredibly, the number of new reviews seemed to have dropped. I think if there was a deliberate decision behind it the BN owner should think twice."

     

     

    In recent months, it would appear that some of the more prolific (and excellent!) reviewers have taken a sabbatical.

     

     

    8/26/13 at 10:33am

    Apicius said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HDD8 View Post
     

    Let's hope for the best!