Looking for a specific (Patchouly?) note

    Looking for a specific (Patchouly?) note

    post #1 of 62
    Thread Starter 

    I've been looking for a specific (Patchouly?) note and I wonder if someone here can point me in the right direction.

     

    So far, I found this note or accord in the following fragrances:

     

    By Kilian - Straight To Heaven

    Byredo - Fantastic Man

    Krizia - Moods Uomo

    Blood Concept - B

    Creed - Aventus

     

    It smells synthetic but classy and is much brighter then every natural Patch I've smelled so far - without any damp or earthier aspects (although there might be something dry mineralic in there as well). Kinda sparkling and airy instead, almost terpenic too. For a while I thought it might be some Patch-Rose-Vetiver-Cedar-combo but I don't think that's it.

     

    Edit: another thread brought back the term fruitchouly and I suppose it may well be what I'm looking for - at least an aspect of that.


    Edited by Nasenmann - 8/30/13 at 10:28am
    post #2 of 62

    Hallo Nasenmann!

    This might be "scheissegal" as we here in Germany say, for it doesn`t help you :) But I guess I`ve stumbled over this note too for many times - last time in Aventus (which made me like it). Before I think it was in Opium pour Homme and in a very old Cool Water. Can it be that you mean something more like a middle to base note? GrĂŒĂŸe!

    post #3 of 62
    Thread Starter 

    Hallo Eule!

     

    Yes it certainly is not a top note. It's detectable in the heart and gets stronger towards the base.
     

    post #4 of 62

    Schönen Abend Nasenmann,

    ... it gets stronger towards the base. Yep !! We`re searching the same thing I guess. I just drove to the Supermarket getting some drinks and in the car I thought about this note. To me it`s more on the cedar & vetiver and it has a feel like - well - "glass made of wood" or so. (But this is something one really can say only to fragrance freaks ... ;-).

    I think I also detect it in Tauer - Incense ExtrĂȘme, older Pino Silvestre & a hint of it in Aramis and Kouros (not really sure). Mostly I find it on smelling strips laying around here and there when I think: "Again, there is it."

    From time to time I`m kind of hoping to find a perfume that consists of this single note. Don`t know if this would be the same fun - but maybe would ...

    I`m curious if the professionals can help.

    post #5 of 62

    Sorry, but the description are arbitrary enough for me to abstain from postulation or pontification.

     

    With that said, have you experienced either pure patchouli alcohol (patchoulol) which is a powder when pure, or a newly developed material, Patchwood?

     

    But sorry to say that I don't know the scent you've listed to have any other information to postulate.

    post #6 of 62
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    With that said, have you experienced either pure patchouli alcohol (patchoulol) which is a powder when pure, or a newly developed material, Patchwood?

    I haven't smelled those yet but will try them asap. Thanks for hinting me in that direction. I just stumbled upon a blog-entry of Andy Tauer in which he describes Patchouli Coeur:

     

    https://www.tauerperfumes.com/blog/tag/patchoulol/

    Quote:

    Patchouli coeur which means”heart of Patchouli” is basically a patchouli that is rich in patchoulol. I am using a quality that is 66% patchoulol. I use it together with “standard” patchouli in the dark fragrance that I described in the past few days. Patchoulol is also called Patchouli Camphor as the heart of patchouli  is a very camperous, in a sense it is actually close to incense, with its campherous terpene like aspects.  Maybe this is part of the fascination of patchouli. There is a woody dark side and an airy, campherous side and the two complement each other. It is like a constant discourse between these two sides.

    Patchouli coeur is even a bit more on the light, airy, musky side. Yes, there is a musky aspect that is stronger and underlined in Patchouli Coeur. I got mine from Ventos, but the description on Robertet‘s internet site is wonderful. It is in French and thus even more mysterious: “Odeur : le cƓur de patchouli prĂ©sente un aspect olfactif trĂšs propre, ambrĂ©, terreux, patchoulol, oriental.”  Thus, it smells clean, of ambergris, earth, patchoulol, and oriental.

     

    And also one about Patchoulol:

     

    https://www.tauerperfumes.com/blog/creating-scents/2011/11/patchouli-5th-avenue-style/

     

    Quote:

    Patchoulol is a molecule that is part of Patchouli essential oil and makes about 30% of it. By selective distillation you can get Patchouli oil that is enriched in Patchoulol, to about 65% for instance. How the molecule looks you see on the right side of this post.

    This Patchouli, rich in Patchoulol, smells like Patchouli, but 5th avenue style. Think rich and expensive patchouli instead of amusement park patchouli. More on the woody side. Just wonderful.

     

    This definitely looks promising! :) Now, if someone could also point me to a place where I can get a small quantity of it - that would be awesome! Unfortunately this looks like a tough one as none of the usual places seem to offer them and Google doesn't seem to help either.

     

    ---------------

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Eule View Post

    Schönen Abend Nasenmann,

    ... it gets stronger towards the base. Yep !! We`re searching the same thing I guess. I just drove to the Supermarket getting some drinks and in the car I thought about this note. To me it`s more on the cedar & vetiver and it has a feel like - well - "glass made of wood" or so. (But this is something one really can say only to fragrance freaks ... ;-).

    I think I also detect it in Tauer - Incense ExtrĂȘme, older Pino Silvestre & a hint of it in Aramis and Kouros (not really sure). Mostly I find it on smelling strips laying around here and there when I think: "Again, there is it."

    From time to time I`m kind of hoping to find a perfume that consists of this single note. Don`t know if this would be the same fun - but maybe would ...

    I`m curious if the professionals can help.

     

    I am often amazed by smelling what remains of a fragrance after washing hands or showering and wish that this part would be a proper fragrance of its own - just the most powerful of basenotes but with perfect projection and ready from the second it touches the skin... Oh, well can't have it all, I guess. I haven't tried "Incense Extreme" but I can't detect it in Kouros. Maybe in Polo though. I'm sure what I'm looking for has something to do with Patchouli.


    Edited by Nasenmann - 8/30/13 at 10:33pm
    post #7 of 62

    I must say that pure patchoulol is rather difficult to obtain.  Not impossible, but very difficult to source, and it's NOT cheap either.

    I have a source that graced me with a price of about $1000/kilo, and I think I've seen $1300/Kilo.

     

    The Patchouli Coeur might be a lot easier to obtain and cheaper too, but I've not smelled it either.

     

    And I just want to cover the base that you've tried already Patcholui Hexanol/Patchone/PTBCH first, before resorting to the time and expense of obtaining these other exotics...?


    Edited by pkiler - 9/3/13 at 5:54pm
    post #8 of 62
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    I must say that pure patchoulol is rather difficult to obtain.  Not impossible, but very difficult to source, and it's NOT cheap either.

    I have a source that graced me with a price of about $1000/kilo, and I think I've seen $1300/Kilo.

     

    The Patchouli Coeur might be a lot easier to obtain and cheaper too, but I've not smelled it either.

     

    And I just want t cover the base that you've tried already Patcholui Hexanol/Patchone/PTBCH first, before resorting to the time and expense of obtaining these other exotics...?

     

    Yes, looking up all the usual places that sell small quantities to non-pros like me wasn't crowned with success. I haven't tried Patchouli Hexanol either but I'm on it now, thanks again!

    post #9 of 62

    Thank you very much Mr. Kiler. It`s nice to have such profund information. To my point I haven`t got the experience with many raw materials and have never tried making perfumes (and wouldn`t do so.) It`s just curiosity & the challenge getting into this a little deeper. So thanks for trying to help us. Very generous. It fascinates me when I hear names, descriptors and about the way to handle raw materials.

     

    Good morning Nasenmann. Thanks for answering. Of course it is some patchouly-smell I mean. I`d just describe it more cedary/vetiver to verify the dry, clean direction it goes. I share exactly your thoughts on showering/washing hands. I`m just trying the different Tauers I have to get a little more focus. It seems to be there in Vetiver Dance & also in Noontide. So your research could hit the spot. Thanks again. Will be back this afternoon when the strips have dried down a bit. Never tried Polo (the classic one) it is not in our local shelves. The (pre 2013) Timbuktu might be worth a try too.     

    post #10 of 62

    I currently have a patchouli that smells more light in character with some middle note characteristics.  It's more green, mildly sweet, fruity and floral than any patchouli I've ever smelled and it seems to have a broader range that extends somewhat into the middle.  It's still definitely representative of patchouli but it's different in that it's lighter, drier and sweeter than what I consider "normal".  http://www.medicineflower.com/448.html

    Perhaps it's just a super fresh batch but it's different from the other three I have which are more similar to each other.  I also have a five year aged that smells deep, dark, damp and earthy and an iron free that smells strongly of bandaids - very dry.  The last one smells very close to the five year - dark, musty and moist, almost moldy.  


    Edited by JEBeasley - 8/31/13 at 3:11am
    post #11 of 62

    The Aftel web store has a natural isolate called Patchouli Acetate, might be worth a look too.

    post #12 of 62

    Hi, Nasenmann, I never try patchouly coeur and patchoulol. But I have patchouly absolute (with many different EO's) and it smells like Tauer described. More rich, ambery, woody and incense-like than essential oils; more expensiv... But you can buy it in small quantities. It is not very volatile, the more sticky, mid-base note. But even simple patchouly oils are very tenacious (I made liquid soap for loundry and can detect patchouli after drying in machine. Love this smell). I can't find fruitiness in patchouli absolute and can't call it "fruitchouly"; for this maybe you need something same tenacious, green and more fruity. I try mix 10% bucchu leaves EO with patchouly absolute, they marry interesting, but I don't know what actually note you are looking for. If you don't know bucchu, be carefull with this stuff, very powerfull and can quickly overshadow everything. Patchouli molecular distilled EO smells lighter and more fruity.

    I just now look at Tauer blog photo. In it I see bottle of Pathouli oil MD - maybe this mean "molecular distilled"? This oil realy different.


    Edited by Ramute - 8/31/13 at 3:36am
    post #13 of 62

    I've got Patchouli Coeur from Proxisante.com. It seems cleaner and less earthy but it doesn't seem to have the power or longevity of the regular oil.

     

    I haven't tried any of the fragrances you described but might it be possible you're smelling Iso E Super or Timbersilk? Could be anything really, but Iso E Super is pretty ubiquitous. According to The Good Scents Company it is also know as "patchouli ethanone". Forgive me if you're already familiar with those materials.

    post #14 of 62
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JEBeasley View Post

    The Aftel web store has a natural isolate called Patchouli Acetate, might be worth a look too.

     

    @JEBeasley:

    Oh, that sounds like a good lead - thank you! But to clarify: are you talking about this site: http://www.aftelier.com/home.php?shcat=1 - I can't find Patchouli Acetate there.

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ramute View Post

    Hi, Nasenmann, I never try patchouly coeur and patchoulol. But I have patchouly absolute (with many different EO's) and it smells like Tauer described. More rich, ambery, woody and incense-like than essential oils; more expensiv... But you can buy it in small quantities. It is not very volatile, the more sticky, mid-base note. But even simple patchouly oils are very tenacious (I made liquid soap for loundry and can detect patchouli after drying in machine. Love this smell). I can't find fruitiness in patchouli absolute and can't call it "fruitchouly"; for this maybe you need something same tenacious, green and more fruity. I try mix 10% bucchu leaves EO with patchouly absolute, they marry interesting, but I don't know what actually note you are looking for. If you don't know bucchu, be carefull with this stuff, very powerfull and can quickly overshadow everything. Patchouli molecular distilled EO smells lighter and more fruity.

    I just now look at Tauer blog photo. In it I see bottle of Pathouli oil MD - maybe this mean "molecular distilled"? This oil realy different.

     

    @Ramute:

    Thanks for the Patchouli Absolute hint! I've smelled one once and from what I remember this is not what I'm looking for (too heavy and not airy enough) but I will give this a shot too.

     

    You are right, MD should actually stand for Molecular Distilled and I will give this a try too. Will probably order them both from hermitageoils. Haven't smelled Bucchu yet either. Ahh, so much left for me to discover - I love it! :D

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Renegade View Post

    I've got Patchouli Coeur from Proxisante.com. It seems cleaner and less earthy but it doesn't seem to have the power or longevity of the regular oil.

     

    I haven't tried any of the fragrances you described but might it be possible you're smelling Iso E Super or Timbersilk? Could be anything really, but Iso E Super is pretty ubiquitous. According to The Good Scents Company it is also know as "patchouli ethanone". Forgive me if you're already familiar with those materials.

     

    @Renegade:

    I was wondering this myself, as there are some Iso E Super-characteristics envolved and it is well possible that what I'm looking is an accord that also envolves IES or Timbersilk. But it's definitely more than that.

     

    Whether it's what I'm looking for or not, I have to get my hands on some Patchouli Coeur now. A quick look up shows that Proxisante's site is french only and that they don't ship international, unfortunately. If anyone has some more sources for Patch Coeur, that be awesome!

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    8/30/13 at 9:19am

    Nasenmann said:



    I've been looking for a specific (Patchouly?) note and I wonder if someone here can point me in the right direction.

     

    So far, I found this note or accord in the following fragrances:

     

    By Kilian - Straight To Heaven

    Byredo - Fantastic Man

    Krizia - Moods Uomo

    Blood Concept - B

    Creed - Aventus

     

    It smells synthetic but classy and is much brighter then every natural Patch I've smelled so far - without any damp or earthier aspects (although there might be something dry mineralic in there as well). Kinda sparkling and airy instead, almost terpenic too. For a while I thought it might be some Patch-Rose-Vetiver-Cedar-combo but I don't think that's it.

     

    Edit: another thread brought back the term fruitchouly and I suppose it may well be what I'm looking for - at least an aspect of that.


    Edited by Nasenmann - 8/30/13 at 10:28am

    8/30/13 at 9:48am

    Eule said:



    Hallo Nasenmann!

    This might be "scheissegal" as we here in Germany say, for it doesn`t help you :) But I guess I`ve stumbled over this note too for many times - last time in Aventus (which made me like it). Before I think it was in Opium pour Homme and in a very old Cool Water. Can it be that you mean something more like a middle to base note? GrĂŒĂŸe!

    8/30/13 at 9:57am

    Nasenmann said:



    Hallo Eule!

     

    Yes it certainly is not a top note. It's detectable in the heart and gets stronger towards the base.
     

    8/30/13 at 11:25am

    Eule said:



    Schönen Abend Nasenmann,

    ... it gets stronger towards the base. Yep !! We`re searching the same thing I guess. I just drove to the Supermarket getting some drinks and in the car I thought about this note. To me it`s more on the cedar & vetiver and it has a feel like - well - "glass made of wood" or so. (But this is something one really can say only to fragrance freaks ... ;-).

    I think I also detect it in Tauer - Incense ExtrĂȘme, older Pino Silvestre & a hint of it in Aramis and Kouros (not really sure). Mostly I find it on smelling strips laying around here and there when I think: "Again, there is it."

    From time to time I`m kind of hoping to find a perfume that consists of this single note. Don`t know if this would be the same fun - but maybe would ...

    I`m curious if the professionals can help.

    8/30/13 at 3:26pm

    pkiler said:



    Sorry, but the description are arbitrary enough for me to abstain from postulation or pontification.

     

    With that said, have you experienced either pure patchouli alcohol (patchoulol) which is a powder when pure, or a newly developed material, Patchwood?

     

    But sorry to say that I don't know the scent you've listed to have any other information to postulate.

    8/30/13 at 9:40pm

    Nasenmann said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    With that said, have you experienced either pure patchouli alcohol (patchoulol) which is a powder when pure, or a newly developed material, Patchwood?

    I haven't smelled those yet but will try them asap. Thanks for hinting me in that direction. I just stumbled upon a blog-entry of Andy Tauer in which he describes Patchouli Coeur:

     

    https://www.tauerperfumes.com/blog/tag/patchoulol/

    Quote:

    Patchouli coeur which means”heart of Patchouli” is basically a patchouli that is rich in patchoulol. I am using a quality that is 66% patchoulol. I use it together with “standard” patchouli in the dark fragrance that I described in the past few days. Patchoulol is also called Patchouli Camphor as the heart of patchouli  is a very camperous, in a sense it is actually close to incense, with its campherous terpene like aspects.  Maybe this is part of the fascination of patchouli. There is a woody dark side and an airy, campherous side and the two complement each other. It is like a constant discourse between these two sides.

    Patchouli coeur is even a bit more on the light, airy, musky side. Yes, there is a musky aspect that is stronger and underlined in Patchouli Coeur. I got mine from Ventos, but the description on Robertet‘s internet site is wonderful. It is in French and thus even more mysterious: “Odeur : le cƓur de patchouli prĂ©sente un aspect olfactif trĂšs propre, ambrĂ©, terreux, patchoulol, oriental.”  Thus, it smells clean, of ambergris, earth, patchoulol, and oriental.

     

    And also one about Patchoulol:

     

    https://www.tauerperfumes.com/blog/creating-scents/2011/11/patchouli-5th-avenue-style/

     

    Quote:

    Patchoulol is a molecule that is part of Patchouli essential oil and makes about 30% of it. By selective distillation you can get Patchouli oil that is enriched in Patchoulol, to about 65% for instance. How the molecule looks you see on the right side of this post.

    This Patchouli, rich in Patchoulol, smells like Patchouli, but 5th avenue style. Think rich and expensive patchouli instead of amusement park patchouli. More on the woody side. Just wonderful.

     

    This definitely looks promising! :) Now, if someone could also point me to a place where I can get a small quantity of it - that would be awesome! Unfortunately this looks like a tough one as none of the usual places seem to offer them and Google doesn't seem to help either.

     

    ---------------

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Eule View Post

    Schönen Abend Nasenmann,

    ... it gets stronger towards the base. Yep !! We`re searching the same thing I guess. I just drove to the Supermarket getting some drinks and in the car I thought about this note. To me it`s more on the cedar & vetiver and it has a feel like - well - "glass made of wood" or so. (But this is something one really can say only to fragrance freaks ... ;-).

    I think I also detect it in Tauer - Incense ExtrĂȘme, older Pino Silvestre & a hint of it in Aramis and Kouros (not really sure). Mostly I find it on smelling strips laying around here and there when I think: "Again, there is it."

    From time to time I`m kind of hoping to find a perfume that consists of this single note. Don`t know if this would be the same fun - but maybe would ...

    I`m curious if the professionals can help.

     

    I am often amazed by smelling what remains of a fragrance after washing hands or showering and wish that this part would be a proper fragrance of its own - just the most powerful of basenotes but with perfect projection and ready from the second it touches the skin... Oh, well can't have it all, I guess. I haven't tried "Incense Extreme" but I can't detect it in Kouros. Maybe in Polo though. I'm sure what I'm looking for has something to do with Patchouli.


    Edited by Nasenmann - 8/30/13 at 10:33pm

    8/30/13 at 10:35pm

    pkiler said:



    I must say that pure patchoulol is rather difficult to obtain.  Not impossible, but very difficult to source, and it's NOT cheap either.

    I have a source that graced me with a price of about $1000/kilo, and I think I've seen $1300/Kilo.

     

    The Patchouli Coeur might be a lot easier to obtain and cheaper too, but I've not smelled it either.

     

    And I just want to cover the base that you've tried already Patcholui Hexanol/Patchone/PTBCH first, before resorting to the time and expense of obtaining these other exotics...?


    Edited by pkiler - 9/3/13 at 5:54pm

    8/30/13 at 11:08pm

    Nasenmann said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkiler View Post

    I must say that pure patchoulol is rather difficult to obtain.  Not impossible, but very difficult to source, and it's NOT cheap either.

    I have a source that graced me with a price of about $1000/kilo, and I think I've seen $1300/Kilo.

     

    The Patchouli Coeur might be a lot easier to obtain and cheaper too, but I've not smelled it either.

     

    And I just want t cover the base that you've tried already Patcholui Hexanol/Patchone/PTBCH first, before resorting to the time and expense of obtaining these other exotics...?

     

    Yes, looking up all the usual places that sell small quantities to non-pros like me wasn't crowned with success. I haven't tried Patchouli Hexanol either but I'm on it now, thanks again!

    8/30/13 at 11:30pm

    Eule said:



    Thank you very much Mr. Kiler. It`s nice to have such profund information. To my point I haven`t got the experience with many raw materials and have never tried making perfumes (and wouldn`t do so.) It`s just curiosity & the challenge getting into this a little deeper. So thanks for trying to help us. Very generous. It fascinates me when I hear names, descriptors and about the way to handle raw materials.

     

    Good morning Nasenmann. Thanks for answering. Of course it is some patchouly-smell I mean. I`d just describe it more cedary/vetiver to verify the dry, clean direction it goes. I share exactly your thoughts on showering/washing hands. I`m just trying the different Tauers I have to get a little more focus. It seems to be there in Vetiver Dance & also in Noontide. So your research could hit the spot. Thanks again. Will be back this afternoon when the strips have dried down a bit. Never tried Polo (the classic one) it is not in our local shelves. The (pre 2013) Timbuktu might be worth a try too.     

    8/31/13 at 2:58am

    JEBeasley said:



    I currently have a patchouli that smells more light in character with some middle note characteristics.  It's more green, mildly sweet, fruity and floral than any patchouli I've ever smelled and it seems to have a broader range that extends somewhat into the middle.  It's still definitely representative of patchouli but it's different in that it's lighter, drier and sweeter than what I consider "normal".  http://www.medicineflower.com/448.html

    Perhaps it's just a super fresh batch but it's different from the other three I have which are more similar to each other.  I also have a five year aged that smells deep, dark, damp and earthy and an iron free that smells strongly of bandaids - very dry.  The last one smells very close to the five year - dark, musty and moist, almost moldy.  


    Edited by JEBeasley - 8/31/13 at 3:11am

    8/31/13 at 3:07am

    JEBeasley said:



    The Aftel web store has a natural isolate called Patchouli Acetate, might be worth a look too.

    8/31/13 at 3:24am

    Ramute said:



    Hi, Nasenmann, I never try patchouly coeur and patchoulol. But I have patchouly absolute (with many different EO's) and it smells like Tauer described. More rich, ambery, woody and incense-like than essential oils; more expensiv... But you can buy it in small quantities. It is not very volatile, the more sticky, mid-base note. But even simple patchouly oils are very tenacious (I made liquid soap for loundry and can detect patchouli after drying in machine. Love this smell). I can't find fruitiness in patchouli absolute and can't call it "fruitchouly"; for this maybe you need something same tenacious, green and more fruity. I try mix 10% bucchu leaves EO with patchouly absolute, they marry interesting, but I don't know what actually note you are looking for. If you don't know bucchu, be carefull with this stuff, very powerfull and can quickly overshadow everything. Patchouli molecular distilled EO smells lighter and more fruity.

    I just now look at Tauer blog photo. In it I see bottle of Pathouli oil MD - maybe this mean "molecular distilled"? This oil realy different.


    Edited by Ramute - 8/31/13 at 3:36am

    8/31/13 at 5:49am

    Renegade said:



    I've got Patchouli Coeur from Proxisante.com. It seems cleaner and less earthy but it doesn't seem to have the power or longevity of the regular oil.

     

    I haven't tried any of the fragrances you described but might it be possible you're smelling Iso E Super or Timbersilk? Could be anything really, but Iso E Super is pretty ubiquitous. According to The Good Scents Company it is also know as "patchouli ethanone". Forgive me if you're already familiar with those materials.

    8/31/13 at 8:39am

    Nasenmann said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JEBeasley View Post

    The Aftel web store has a natural isolate called Patchouli Acetate, might be worth a look too.

     

    @JEBeasley:

    Oh, that sounds like a good lead - thank you! But to clarify: are you talking about this site: http://www.aftelier.com/home.php?shcat=1 - I can't find Patchouli Acetate there.

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ramute View Post

    Hi, Nasenmann, I never try patchouly coeur and patchoulol. But I have patchouly absolute (with many different EO's) and it smells like Tauer described. More rich, ambery, woody and incense-like than essential oils; more expensiv... But you can buy it in small quantities. It is not very volatile, the more sticky, mid-base note. But even simple patchouly oils are very tenacious (I made liquid soap for loundry and can detect patchouli after drying in machine. Love this smell). I can't find fruitiness in patchouli absolute and can't call it "fruitchouly"; for this maybe you need something same tenacious, green and more fruity. I try mix 10% bucchu leaves EO with patchouly absolute, they marry interesting, but I don't know what actually note you are looking for. If you don't know bucchu, be carefull with this stuff, very powerfull and can quickly overshadow everything. Patchouli molecular distilled EO smells lighter and more fruity.

    I just now look at Tauer blog photo. In it I see bottle of Pathouli oil MD - maybe this mean "molecular distilled"? This oil realy different.

     

    @Ramute:

    Thanks for the Patchouli Absolute hint! I've smelled one once and from what I remember this is not what I'm looking for (too heavy and not airy enough) but I will give this a shot too.

     

    You are right, MD should actually stand for Molecular Distilled and I will give this a try too. Will probably order them both from hermitageoils. Haven't smelled Bucchu yet either. Ahh, so much left for me to discover - I love it! :D

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Renegade View Post

    I've got Patchouli Coeur from Proxisante.com. It seems cleaner and less earthy but it doesn't seem to have the power or longevity of the regular oil.

     

    I haven't tried any of the fragrances you described but might it be possible you're smelling Iso E Super or Timbersilk? Could be anything really, but Iso E Super is pretty ubiquitous. According to The Good Scents Company it is also know as "patchouli ethanone". Forgive me if you're already familiar with those materials.

     

    @Renegade:

    I was wondering this myself, as there are some Iso E Super-characteristics envolved and it is well possible that what I'm looking is an accord that also envolves IES or Timbersilk. But it's definitely more than that.

     

    Whether it's what I'm looking for or not, I have to get my hands on some Patchouli Coeur now. A quick look up shows that Proxisante's site is french only and that they don't ship international, unfortunately. If anyone has some more sources for Patch Coeur, that be awesome!