Coty wild musk oil

    Coty wild musk oil

    post #1 of 31
    Thread Starter 
    I understand coty no longer makes this oil,but was wondering if anyone knows of an essential oil recipe/blend that is as close to it as possible.I use essential oils and make my own perfume oils,but am at a loss in duplicating my favorite scent ever,which is discontinued.Thanks!
    post #2 of 31

    Hi Peoney and welcome to Basenotes!

    There's a D.I.Y. Section here where your query will probably receive a better response so the thread is being moved over.

    Hoping you find the information that you're looking for soon!

    post #3 of 31

    It will not be possible to duplicate any Musk fragrance using only Essential Oils, as the basis of the fragrance will be one or more synthetic materials called Polycyclic and Macrocyclic Musks. Even if you were prepared to use synthetics as well as naturals (and there really isn't any reason not to) it would be extremely difficult to duplicate this fragrance. If you really want this it would be better to try and find someone who still sells it.

    post #4 of 31

    Thanks, David!

    post #5 of 31
    Thread Starter 
    Thanks David.I have looked for it being sold.and I've found it alright,999.00 a pop,I love smelling good,but hey I'm not an idiot :)Just as bad as price gouging gasoline!What about ambrette seed oil,I hear its the vegie equivalent of animal musk?I know it's not the same as coty wildusk oil but still I'm looking for that musky type base.thanks again smile.gif
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    post #7 of 31
    Thread Starter 
    It is,and thank you so much.Thoughtful.They are sold out though.That's my problem,any one who has it is selling for an ungodly amount,or are permanently sold out,like on eBay and such.Stores no longer carry it.What I don't get is,it was a very popular fragrance,they stopped making it,now they only make the alcohol based spray which is no where similar in smell at all.If you come accross a recipe claiming similarity in smell,PLEASE pass it my way.Thank you so much for your help smile.gif Have a lovely evening.
    post #8 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PeoneyView Post

    Thanks David.I have looked for it being sold.and I've found it alright,999.00 a pop,I love smelling good,but hey I'm not an idiot :)Just as bad as price gouging gasoline!What about ambrette seed oil,I hear its the vegie equivalent of animal musk?I know it's not the same as coty wildusk oil but still I'm looking for that musky type base.thanks again smile.gif

    I have to admit that i have never smelled the fragrance you are after but I am guessing that it was based on synthetic musks. Ambrette seed oil does have a musky note but it isn't the same. It's also quite expensive, but have a go with it if you want.

    By the way I just Googled "Coty Wild Musk" and found several different sites offering it for sale. But I'm sure you have already done that.

    post #9 of 31
    The current version of Wild Musk isn't worth the postage let alone the bottle, dont even bother with it. Its weak, insipid and cheap smelling, a mere shadow of the original.

    I'd say Ethylene Brassylate would be the best jumping point to try and recreate it. A bit of Deer Musk to give it some depth and this is where it starts getting tricky. White Musk? Possibly.
    There's some sweetness with citrus, possibly a combination of orange and vanilla. It's not smoky so I would eliminate vanilla bean. I would say a touch of sandalwood and patchouli in the base, but only in trace amounts. There are probably more ingredients to it, perhaps Ylang Ylang, Rose and Jasmine, but that's as far as I get with it.

    Keep in mind that today's ingredients are not what was used back in the day and you're never going to be able to replicate it accurately in that respect. But good luck to you.
    I remember clear as a bell how Wild Musk smelled, I used to steal drops from mums bottle. Boy, she hit the roof when she found out! I purchased a bottle of the new stuff for her birthday recently and it was so bad, I didn't give it to her. Last thing I wanted was to was add insult to injury. Some gift that would have been... "Hey Mum, remember how I pilfered your precious musk oil? Well here's a crappy remake of it to make it up to you". grin.gif
    post #10 of 31
    Thread Starter 
    You all are awesome!Thanks for the help and info.I love the honesty in in your advice.Funny how total strangers are blunt,true and sincere yet people I've known for years will patronize,falsify and tell me what I WANT to hear.A great big kudos to you all!I'm glad I found this sight.Good day to you both smile.gif
    post #11 of 31

    OP, another search found this link, which has the oil in stock:

    http://familycenteriga.grocerydirect.com/pd/Coty/Wild-Musk-Perfume-Oil/0-50-fl-oz/031655045139/

    However I do not know if this site is legit. Please shop very carefully!

    Good luck.

    post #12 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PeoneyView Post

    You all are awesome!Thanks for the help and info.I love the honesty in in your advice.Funny how total strangers are blunt,true and sincere yet people I've known for years will patronize,falsify and tell me what I WANT to hear.A great big kudos to you all!I'm glad I found this sight.Good day to you both smile.gif

    Ahh, try not to be too hard of them, they probably adore you and just want your approval smile.gif I have to say, since this thread I've been craving that old Wild Musk. SL's Musk Koublai Khan gives me all the musk I can handle, but its missing the playful heart that was in Wild Musk. And boy, that stuff had lasting power. I dont know why I thought I could get away with nicking it from Mum, the strength was colossal.

    Have you tried Kiehl's Original Musk, Peoney? That might tide you over and satisfy your craving.
    post #13 of 31
    Thread Starter 
    No,but I think I may.Thanks!
    post #14 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by L'eaulitaView Post

    The current version of Wild Musk isn't worth the postage let alone the bottle, dont even bother with it. Its weak, insipid and cheap smelling, a mere shadow of the original.

    I'd say Ethylene Brassylate would be the best jumping point to try and recreate it. A bit of Deer Musk to give it some depth and this is where it starts getting tricky. White Musk? Possibly.
    There's some sweetness with citrus, possibly a combination of orange and vanilla. It's not smoky so I would eliminate vanilla bean. I would say a touch of sandalwood and patchouli in the base, but only in trace amounts. There are probably more ingredients to it, perhaps Ylang Ylang, Rose and Jasmine, but that's as far as I get with it.

    Keep in mind that today's ingredients are not what was used back in the day and you're never going to be able to replicate it accurately in that respect. But good luck to you.
    I remember clear as a bell how Wild Musk smelled, I used to steal drops from mums bottle. Boy, she hit the roof when she found out! I purchased a bottle of the new stuff for her birthday recently and it was so bad, I didn't give it to her. Last thing I wanted was to was add insult to injury. Some gift that would have been... "Hey Mum, remember how I pilfered your precious musk oil? Well here's a crappy remake of it to make it up to you". grin.gif

    I'm afraid I don't know this particular fragrance either but there are a great many synthetic musks and they all have different characteristics and are nearly always used in blends. I agree Ethylene brassylate is a good candidate and so too is Ambrettolide. My guess is that you'd be well advised to try some Musk Ketone though as it is still available though now hardly used in commercial fragrance, it was once very popular. I would also suggest you want some muscenone (not an easy one to buy in small amounts) and something like helvetolide or tonalid to give the top-note effect.

    For $1000 you could almost pay for a perfumer to recreate it from an analysis if you have some of the old oil still to work from and choose a perfumer who is willing to ignore modern IFRA standards.

    post #15 of 31

    I have some original Coty Wild Musk and will smell it for you......

    There is a very clean smell about this musk that has a naughty after kick. This is a nice girl with a wicked side to her. It has an initial clean white musk opening.There is a very powdery, slightly spicyquality to it. There is a floral note but very slight and on the violet leaf side of flowers. I'm getting a tagetes note too, quite raw and insistent.I'm thinking you will definitely need a synthetic musk to achieve this. I haven't got time today but I will smell the ones I havefor you to compare later when I have a moment. Nudge me if I forget to. This could be quite fun to play with as a perfumers challenge.

    A vanilla/benzoin note appearing softly now.

    post #16 of 31

    My Mom used to wear Coty Wild Musk, I recently purchased Kiehl's Musk because it reminded me of the CWM. It's not the same, but it is good stuff.

    post #17 of 31




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