Why Not Keiko Mecheri?

    Why Not Keiko Mecheri?

    post #1 of 28
    Thread Starter 

    I believe I've become her biggest fangirl, so perhaps I am imbalanced.  But I was wondering why there is so little interest on these boards in Keiko Mecheri stuff.  

     

    I am finding myself to love every bit of it so I've been surprised it hasn't got much action on Basenotes.  What gives?


    Edited by danieq - 9/10/13 at 9:55pm
    post #2 of 28

    I like her stuff.  I have two bottles from her.  I think her recent high-end line (the one with Canyon Dreams) is fantastic.

     

    I think she's like a lot of "Americaniche" - something of an acquired taste.

     

    Perhaps the combination of being a bit offbeat and pricey, and the general difficulty in getting samples, has kept her from being better-known.  I've only seen her stuff in one - MAYBE two stores.

    post #3 of 28
    Thread Starter 

    Yes, the lack of samples is making me crazy.  I've tried ordering them from her site but the site doesn't work and the email bounces and the phone never gets answered.  You make a good point.  I wonder how we can convince her to work on those things.  The fragrances are truly beautiful.

    post #4 of 28
    Personally not a fan of her stuff but it seems there are many people here at Basenotes that are.
    post #5 of 28

    A lot of the ones I have tried did not thrill me, but there are a few (Oliban, Les Zazous, and Mulholland) that I think are really nice, and don't get mentioned enough here.

    post #6 of 28

    I was just checking her website, and I noticed two things:

     

    (1) no samples of the Bespoke collection - which is truly her best stuff, IMO

     

    (2) I can't even get to the pages about the Bespoke collection - the Flash object is wonky

     

    I would recommend that people get samples from MiN NY - that is where I bought my bottles:

     

    http://minnewyork.com/canyon-dreams-eau-de-parfum-keiko-mecheri-bespoke.html

     

    They have a sample program.  The samples are expensive, but that collection is expensive to begin with.   The fragrances are very rich and hefty and are clearly using good stuff, so the almost-Amouage-level prices are not a surprise.  I would have sprung for Canyon Dreams already, were it cheaper, but it's not, so it just sits in the wish list for now. :happy:

    post #7 of 28

    Samples of many of them can be purchased at Luckyscent.  That I where I got mine.

     

    http://www.luckyscent.com/shop/category/164/page/1/brand/Keiko_Mecheri.html

    post #8 of 28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dougczar View Post
     

    A lot of the ones I have tried did not thrill me, but there are a few (Oliban, Les Zazous, and Mulholland) that I think are really nice, and don't get mentioned enough here.

     

    OMG - we're almost on the same page with her stuff.  I think those are really guy-friendly ones.  My friend Mike showed me Oliban, which I almost bought, but I found Les Zazous and got that instead, though not before thinking hard about Mulholland!  I got Umé for my wife - I think it's OK, but I tend to think that one is more designed for both women and Japanese tastes.

    post #9 of 28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
     

    OMG - we're almost on the same page with her stuff.  I think those are really guy-friendly ones.  My friend Mike showed me Oliban, which I almost bought, but I found Les Zazous and got that instead, though not before thinking hard about Mulholland!  I got Umé for my wife - I think it's OK, but I tend to think that one is more designed for both women and Japanese tastes.

     

    Les Zazous is probably my favorite one too.  Really nice and lasts a long time on me.  

     

    Not sure if you tried the newer one Sedona Blue - I wore that one twice, and it smells so familiar, but just can't recall where I have smelled it before.  Just wondering if you have smelled it and what it reminds you of - it's been driving me nuts!

    post #10 of 28

    Unfortunately, you missed a great pass the sample on KM some time ago:

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/324572/sample-pass-keiko-mecheri-conus-only

     

    While I liked most of them, I cannot say I was swayed by any of them. Just not my style.

     

    cacio

    post #11 of 28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dougczar View Post
     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
     

    OMG - we're almost on the same page with her stuff.  I think those are really guy-friendly ones.  My friend Mike showed me Oliban, which I almost bought, but I found Les Zazous and got that instead, though not before thinking hard about Mulholland!  I got Umé for my wife - I think it's OK, but I tend to think that one is more designed for both women and Japanese tastes.

     

    Les Zazous is probably my favorite one too.  Really nice and lasts a long time on me.  

     

    Not sure if you tried the newer one Sedona Blue - I wore that one twice, and it smells so familiar, but just can't recall where I have smelled it before.  Just wondering if you have smelled it and what it reminds you of - it's been driving me nuts!

     

    Oh, man - that looks REALLY nice.  I have a thing for Southwest/Western-inspired fragrances, and that one could be really good.  I tend to think that KM is hitting her stride now.  The Bespoke collection showed a lot of talent - they were truly her best works so far, IMO.  So the bottom line is that if Sedona Blue is her latest, I would bet money that it's REALLY nice.  And the price is quite reasonable.  I will definitely look at getting a sample.

     

    I haven't even smelled it, but let me take a guess.  Two things that jump to mind are mesquite and sage.  A mesquite accord is going to be familiar and has a lot of gourmand associations, but it's tricky.  Sage seems more likely.  Sage is a common aromatic, but when it's used in a big way, it has a very distinctive sharp, herbal feel that smells very peculiar to the vegetation of the Southwest.  TDC's Un Parfum de Charmes et Feuilles is a great example.  Not sure what the actual inspiration for it was, but it struck me that way.  There are other associations like incenses that work nicely for the Southwest, too.  It just takes some tweaking to make them feel less Eurasian and more American.

     

    Oh, good grief.  You just put a frag on my wish list, and I haven't even smelled it!!! :coolold:

     

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cacio View Post
     

    Unfortunately, you missed a great pass the sample on KM some time ago:

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/324572/sample-pass-keiko-mecheri-conus-only

     

    While I liked most of them, I cannot say I was swayed by any of them. Just not my style.

     

    cacio

     

    Yeah - there are at least a couple there that I haven't smelled.  Oh, well.  I'm just thankful I got to smell the Bespoke collection, thanks to Primrose!  That was really worth it.

    post #12 of 28

    The truth? There are too many of them! Seriously, I've seen her perfumes in a couple of shops in London, but the sheer number of those bottles all lined up is bewildering. I wouldn't know where to begin, and somehow testing each one to get through them all seems like hard work. It's not just Keiko Mecheri. When L'Artisan released like eight or nine Mon Numero perfumes all at once a while back, I also got spooked and ran off. 

     

    I know that sounds insane, but there you have it. A contributing factor may be that, as the OP says, there's very little talk about KM here. I've not had similar problems with Frederic Malle or Tom Ford PC, and I think that may be because I approached those lines armed with lots of BNers' opinions about Musc Ravageur or Tobacco Vanille. With those, I feel like I had a way in. 

    post #13 of 28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kagey View Post
     

    The truth? There are too many of them! Seriously, I've seen her perfumes in a couple of shops in London, but the sheer number of those bottles all lined up is bewildering. I wouldn't know where to begin, and somehow testing each one to get through them all seems like hard work. It's not just Keiko Mecheri. When L'Artisan released like eight or nine Mon Numero perfumes all at once a while back, I also got spooked and ran off. 

     

    I know that sounds insane, but there you have it. A contributing factor may be that, as the OP says, there's very little talk about KM here. I've not had similar problems with Frederic Malle or Tom Ford PC, and I think that may be because I approached those lines armed with lots of BNers' opinions about Musc Ravageur or Tobacco Vanille. With those, I feel like I had a way in. 

     

    You know - I have to agree.  The giant tray of them at MiN is just daunting as can be.  Had MikeNY not pulled out a couple of them for me to try, I think I would have said "Let's go look at the Amouage again."

     

    And - to be totally honest - that main collection of hers is NOT that diverse - at least, not as much as the Bespoke collection.  The Bespoke collection is smaller, but WOW - those scents are all over the map.  Her main collection does not vary as much in style, and because of that, and the fact that it's so big, it has numerous pairs or triples that compete with each other.  It's birthday paradox all over the place.  I did have a hard time choosing from them.

    post #14 of 28
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cacio View Post
     

    Unfortunately, you missed a great pass the sample on KM some time ago:

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/324572/sample-pass-keiko-mecheri-conus-only

     

    While I liked most of them, I cannot say I was swayed by any of them. Just not my style.

     

    cacio

     

    Darn it!

     

    I think I like them because they seem to tend toward sweet and I'm a sweet, jammy kind of girl.

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
     

    Oh, good grief.  You just put a frag on my wish list, and I haven't even smelled it!!! :coolold:

     

    LOL, I may be able to relate

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kagey View Post
     

    The truth? There are too many of them! Seriously, I've seen her perfumes in a couple of shops in London, but the sheer number of those bottles all lined up is bewildering. I wouldn't know where to begin, and somehow testing each one to get through them all seems like hard work. It's not just Keiko Mecheri. When L'Artisan released like eight or nine Mon Numero perfumes all at once a while back, I also got spooked and ran off. 

     

    I recently had this experience with Creed and L'artisan, I had to go back for several trips to really get a feel for the variations.

    post #15 of 28
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
     

     

    http://minnewyork.com/canyon-dreams-eau-de-parfum-keiko-mecheri-bespoke.html

     

    They have a sample program.  The samples are expensive, but that collection is expensive to begin with.   The fragrances are very rich and hefty and are clearly using good stuff, so the almost-Amouage-level prices are not a surprise.  I would have sprung for Canyon Dreams already, were it cheaper, but it's not, so it just sits in the wish list for now. :happy:

    How do the MinNewYork samples come?  I'm finding that vials, like what is offered at Luckyscent don't have at all the same effect as a spray, nor tell me how a scent will really wear, so I've been avoiding (as much as possible) the vial samples.

    9/10/13 at 7:42pm

    danieq said:



    I believe I've become her biggest fangirl, so perhaps I am imbalanced.  But I was wondering why there is so little interest on these boards in Keiko Mecheri stuff.  

     

    I am finding myself to love every bit of it so I've been surprised it hasn't got much action on Basenotes.  What gives?


    Edited by danieq - 9/10/13 at 9:55pm

    9/10/13 at 7:51pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    I like her stuff.  I have two bottles from her.  I think her recent high-end line (the one with Canyon Dreams) is fantastic.

     

    I think she's like a lot of "Americaniche" - something of an acquired taste.

     

    Perhaps the combination of being a bit offbeat and pricey, and the general difficulty in getting samples, has kept her from being better-known.  I've only seen her stuff in one - MAYBE two stores.

    9/10/13 at 7:54pm

    danieq said:



    Yes, the lack of samples is making me crazy.  I've tried ordering them from her site but the site doesn't work and the email bounces and the phone never gets answered.  You make a good point.  I wonder how we can convince her to work on those things.  The fragrances are truly beautiful.

    9/10/13 at 8:08pm

    hednic said:



    Personally not a fan of her stuff but it seems there are many people here at Basenotes that are.

    9/10/13 at 8:18pm

    dougczar said:



    A lot of the ones I have tried did not thrill me, but there are a few (Oliban, Les Zazous, and Mulholland) that I think are really nice, and don't get mentioned enough here.

    9/10/13 at 8:20pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    I was just checking her website, and I noticed two things:

     

    (1) no samples of the Bespoke collection - which is truly her best stuff, IMO

     

    (2) I can't even get to the pages about the Bespoke collection - the Flash object is wonky

     

    I would recommend that people get samples from MiN NY - that is where I bought my bottles:

     

    http://minnewyork.com/canyon-dreams-eau-de-parfum-keiko-mecheri-bespoke.html

     

    They have a sample program.  The samples are expensive, but that collection is expensive to begin with.   The fragrances are very rich and hefty and are clearly using good stuff, so the almost-Amouage-level prices are not a surprise.  I would have sprung for Canyon Dreams already, were it cheaper, but it's not, so it just sits in the wish list for now. :happy:

    9/10/13 at 8:24pm

    dougczar said:



    Samples of many of them can be purchased at Luckyscent.  That I where I got mine.

     

    http://www.luckyscent.com/shop/category/164/page/1/brand/Keiko_Mecheri.html

    9/10/13 at 8:25pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dougczar View Post
     

    A lot of the ones I have tried did not thrill me, but there are a few (Oliban, Les Zazous, and Mulholland) that I think are really nice, and don't get mentioned enough here.

     

    OMG - we're almost on the same page with her stuff.  I think those are really guy-friendly ones.  My friend Mike showed me Oliban, which I almost bought, but I found Les Zazous and got that instead, though not before thinking hard about Mulholland!  I got Umé for my wife - I think it's OK, but I tend to think that one is more designed for both women and Japanese tastes.

    9/10/13 at 8:36pm

    dougczar said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
     

    OMG - we're almost on the same page with her stuff.  I think those are really guy-friendly ones.  My friend Mike showed me Oliban, which I almost bought, but I found Les Zazous and got that instead, though not before thinking hard about Mulholland!  I got Umé for my wife - I think it's OK, but I tend to think that one is more designed for both women and Japanese tastes.

     

    Les Zazous is probably my favorite one too.  Really nice and lasts a long time on me.  

     

    Not sure if you tried the newer one Sedona Blue - I wore that one twice, and it smells so familiar, but just can't recall where I have smelled it before.  Just wondering if you have smelled it and what it reminds you of - it's been driving me nuts!

    9/10/13 at 8:55pm

    cacio said:



    Unfortunately, you missed a great pass the sample on KM some time ago:

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/324572/sample-pass-keiko-mecheri-conus-only

     

    While I liked most of them, I cannot say I was swayed by any of them. Just not my style.

     

    cacio

    9/10/13 at 9:29pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dougczar View Post
     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
     

    OMG - we're almost on the same page with her stuff.  I think those are really guy-friendly ones.  My friend Mike showed me Oliban, which I almost bought, but I found Les Zazous and got that instead, though not before thinking hard about Mulholland!  I got Umé for my wife - I think it's OK, but I tend to think that one is more designed for both women and Japanese tastes.

     

    Les Zazous is probably my favorite one too.  Really nice and lasts a long time on me.  

     

    Not sure if you tried the newer one Sedona Blue - I wore that one twice, and it smells so familiar, but just can't recall where I have smelled it before.  Just wondering if you have smelled it and what it reminds you of - it's been driving me nuts!

     

    Oh, man - that looks REALLY nice.  I have a thing for Southwest/Western-inspired fragrances, and that one could be really good.  I tend to think that KM is hitting her stride now.  The Bespoke collection showed a lot of talent - they were truly her best works so far, IMO.  So the bottom line is that if Sedona Blue is her latest, I would bet money that it's REALLY nice.  And the price is quite reasonable.  I will definitely look at getting a sample.

     

    I haven't even smelled it, but let me take a guess.  Two things that jump to mind are mesquite and sage.  A mesquite accord is going to be familiar and has a lot of gourmand associations, but it's tricky.  Sage seems more likely.  Sage is a common aromatic, but when it's used in a big way, it has a very distinctive sharp, herbal feel that smells very peculiar to the vegetation of the Southwest.  TDC's Un Parfum de Charmes et Feuilles is a great example.  Not sure what the actual inspiration for it was, but it struck me that way.  There are other associations like incenses that work nicely for the Southwest, too.  It just takes some tweaking to make them feel less Eurasian and more American.

     

    Oh, good grief.  You just put a frag on my wish list, and I haven't even smelled it!!! :coolold:

     

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cacio View Post
     

    Unfortunately, you missed a great pass the sample on KM some time ago:

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/324572/sample-pass-keiko-mecheri-conus-only

     

    While I liked most of them, I cannot say I was swayed by any of them. Just not my style.

     

    cacio

     

    Yeah - there are at least a couple there that I haven't smelled.  Oh, well.  I'm just thankful I got to smell the Bespoke collection, thanks to Primrose!  That was really worth it.

    9/10/13 at 9:30pm

    Kagey said:



    The truth? There are too many of them! Seriously, I've seen her perfumes in a couple of shops in London, but the sheer number of those bottles all lined up is bewildering. I wouldn't know where to begin, and somehow testing each one to get through them all seems like hard work. It's not just Keiko Mecheri. When L'Artisan released like eight or nine Mon Numero perfumes all at once a while back, I also got spooked and ran off. 

     

    I know that sounds insane, but there you have it. A contributing factor may be that, as the OP says, there's very little talk about KM here. I've not had similar problems with Frederic Malle or Tom Ford PC, and I think that may be because I approached those lines armed with lots of BNers' opinions about Musc Ravageur or Tobacco Vanille. With those, I feel like I had a way in. 

    9/10/13 at 9:36pm

    Redneck Perfumisto said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kagey View Post
     

    The truth? There are too many of them! Seriously, I've seen her perfumes in a couple of shops in London, but the sheer number of those bottles all lined up is bewildering. I wouldn't know where to begin, and somehow testing each one to get through them all seems like hard work. It's not just Keiko Mecheri. When L'Artisan released like eight or nine Mon Numero perfumes all at once a while back, I also got spooked and ran off. 

     

    I know that sounds insane, but there you have it. A contributing factor may be that, as the OP says, there's very little talk about KM here. I've not had similar problems with Frederic Malle or Tom Ford PC, and I think that may be because I approached those lines armed with lots of BNers' opinions about Musc Ravageur or Tobacco Vanille. With those, I feel like I had a way in. 

     

    You know - I have to agree.  The giant tray of them at MiN is just daunting as can be.  Had MikeNY not pulled out a couple of them for me to try, I think I would have said "Let's go look at the Amouage again."

     

    And - to be totally honest - that main collection of hers is NOT that diverse - at least, not as much as the Bespoke collection.  The Bespoke collection is smaller, but WOW - those scents are all over the map.  Her main collection does not vary as much in style, and because of that, and the fact that it's so big, it has numerous pairs or triples that compete with each other.  It's birthday paradox all over the place.  I did have a hard time choosing from them.

    9/10/13 at 10:01pm

    danieq said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cacio View Post
     

    Unfortunately, you missed a great pass the sample on KM some time ago:

    http://www.basenotes.net/t/324572/sample-pass-keiko-mecheri-conus-only

     

    While I liked most of them, I cannot say I was swayed by any of them. Just not my style.

     

    cacio

     

    Darn it!

     

    I think I like them because they seem to tend toward sweet and I'm a sweet, jammy kind of girl.

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
     

    Oh, good grief.  You just put a frag on my wish list, and I haven't even smelled it!!! :coolold:

     

    LOL, I may be able to relate

     

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kagey View Post
     

    The truth? There are too many of them! Seriously, I've seen her perfumes in a couple of shops in London, but the sheer number of those bottles all lined up is bewildering. I wouldn't know where to begin, and somehow testing each one to get through them all seems like hard work. It's not just Keiko Mecheri. When L'Artisan released like eight or nine Mon Numero perfumes all at once a while back, I also got spooked and ran off. 

     

    I recently had this experience with Creed and L'artisan, I had to go back for several trips to really get a feel for the variations.

    9/10/13 at 10:03pm

    danieq said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
     

     

    http://minnewyork.com/canyon-dreams-eau-de-parfum-keiko-mecheri-bespoke.html

     

    They have a sample program.  The samples are expensive, but that collection is expensive to begin with.   The fragrances are very rich and hefty and are clearly using good stuff, so the almost-Amouage-level prices are not a surprise.  I would have sprung for Canyon Dreams already, were it cheaper, but it's not, so it just sits in the wish list for now. :happy:

    How do the MinNewYork samples come?  I'm finding that vials, like what is offered at Luckyscent don't have at all the same effect as a spray, nor tell me how a scent will really wear, so I've been avoiding (as much as possible) the vial samples.





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