Difficult to explain but I pick up on a note that seems to be in the older classics. Most recently I've noticed it in Chanel No5 and Bois des Illes. Is it Ylang Ylang?
It could be either I suppose. My wife owns Chanels Gardenia and it's there as well. I received Creed Millesime 1849 this morning and unfortunately for me it has this same note and as I don't like it I can't wear it. I need to know so I can avoid the note in the future as I tend to blind buy more than I should. I know I should sample before buying but I have a very impulsive nature, though I really should address that, especially at this price point!
In women's scents, I would say leather is the "granny" note.
It is not often used in scents for women these days. One sees to much candy, fruit and syrup.
It made a recent appearance is the mass market with Fendi Fan di Fendi EDP, Avon Outspoken and Agent Provocateur Petale Noir, but the leather is very subdued.
Think of the classic for women of the past: Chanel Cuir de Russie, Piguet Bandit, Balmain Jolie Madame and Miss Balmain, Gres Cabochard and the original Miss Dior.
Oddly, I recall an article suggesting a man interested in unique fragrances to wear is recommended to raid his mother's or grandmother's vanity.