Sugar-snap peas?

    Sugar-snap peas?

    post #1 of 17
    Thread Starter 

    Hello,

    I want to make a fragrance based on sugar-snap peas, or what I think are known in America as snap peas. I have never come across a fragrance that reminds me of this smell. When I was walking past a house last week, I could smell sugar snap peas wafting from someones front garden and I realised what I wonderful smell this is. Would anyone know how one could go about recreating such a smell?

    Thanks,

    Jake

    post #2 of 17

    Cis-3-Hexanol, Cis-3-hex *stuff* - lots to pick from - Butyrates, Salicylates, Tiglates, Hexanoates... green types, try them out and find what is similar and blend, some Stemone, and go from there... You'll be close, but certainly not there, you'll have to do other work to get closer...

    post #3 of 17

    Violet Nitrile. Iris Nitrile. 2-Methoxy, 3-isoButyl Pyrazine. These will help if you can get them. BUT, be very careful using them as they are VERY strong, and will need dilution.

    Triplal, Phenylacetaldehyde Dimethyl Acetal (i.e. PADMA) will also help. For the watery aspect; Helional, Melonal, Nonadienal (smells of cucumber, also very strong), a touch of Calone or Floralozone.

    post #4 of 17
    Thread Starter 

    Thanks pkiler and David for your advice. I doubt I'll be able to get hold of some of the materials you mentioned David, but it's great to know for the sake of curiosity anyway.

    Jake

    post #5 of 17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilacwineView Post

    Thanks pkiler and David for your advice. I doubt I'll be able to get hold of some of the materials you mentioned David, but it's great to know for the sake of curiosity anyway.

    Jake

    Most of those (other than the nitriles and pyrazines) are currently available from either Perfumer's Apprentice, Hermitage, or De Hekserij.

    I'd also suggest Heptyl acetate, Stemone, Verdilyn and possibly Azarbre as potential contributors. I'm thinking about a way to make one or two of the pyrazines available, probably heavily pre-diluted too.
    post #6 of 17

    Amongst Essential Oils, possibly Galbanum, and Angelica Root Oil. No idea how easy these are to obtain.

    post #7 of 17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by David RuskinView Post

    Violet Nitrile. Iris Nitrile.

    TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME where I can get these...!

    :-)

    wish I could get my hands on these!

    post #8 of 17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilacwineView Post

    Hello,

    I want to make a fragrance based on sugar-snap peas, or what I think are known in America as snap peas. I have never come across a fragrance that reminds me of this smell.

    Have you smelled Sweet Pea from Bath & Body Works? It has a very nice pea smell.

    post #9 of 17

    Violet Nitrile CAS 97752-28-8

    Iris Nitrile CAS 29127-83-1

    Both offered by The Good Scents Company

    post #10 of 17
    Thread Starter 

    I did an order from Hermitage Oils yesterday and I think I saw Iris and Violet Nitrile on there too. Didn't realise how great of a site it was. Everything I couldn't find/was out of stock on Olfactik was on there.

    post #11 of 17
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Allen-at-homeView Post

    Have you smelled Sweet Pea from Bath & Body Works? It has a very nice pea smell.

    No, haven't smelled this. I live in London so not sure how difficult it is to find this. I think it's more the shell of the sugar snap peas rather than the pea itself that I'm thinking of.

    post #12 of 17
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris BartlettView Post

    Most of those (other than the nitriles and pyrazines) are currently available from either Perfumer's Apprentice, Hermitage, or De Hekserij.

    I'd also suggest Heptyl acetate, Stemone, Verdilyn and possibly Azarbre as potential contributors. I'm thinking about a way to make one or two of the pyrazines available, probably heavily pre-diluted too.

    Thanks for recommending Hermitage Chris, I found most of the ones I needed. I'm a beginner so trying to recreate this might be a bit of a disaster. I noticed you have a course this weekend in Belsize Park. I really wanted to do it but am away this weekend. Hopefully there's another one there soon I can do as I live nearby.

    post #13 of 17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by David RuskinView Post

    Violet Nitrile CAS 97752-28-8

    Iris Nitrile CAS 29127-83-1

    Both offered by The Good Scents Company

    Hi David, TGSC *lists* them in their database, but they don't have them for sale... If they did, I would have bought them long ago... :-)

    post #14 of 17

    Sorry about that Paul; I'm afraid that I don't know any suppliers (of anything). Violet Nitrile was a Quest speciality (now a Givaudan speciality) so it may not be easily available.

    post #15 of 17
    I think this recipie is like sugar-snap peas.
    not exactly, but quite near:
    galbanum eo - 2 drops
    jasmine grandiflorum abs 20% - 11 drops
    tuberose abs 20% - 5 drops
    cis-3-hexenol 10% - 1 drops
    is it really so? i'm intrested.
    post #16 of 17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MashaView Post
    I think this recipie is like sugar-snap peas.
    not exactly, but quite near:
    galbanum eo - 2 drops
    jasmine grandiflorum abs 20% - 11 drops
    tuberose abs 20% - 5 drops
    cis-3-hexenol 10% - 1 drops
    is it really so? i'm intrested.

    I've not made that up to try, but I'd have thought it would be pretty floral. Those are also some very expensive peas you've got there!

    post #17 of 17

    Those are also some very expensive peas you've got there!

    :grin:perhaps you're right!

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    9/23/13 at 3:47pm

    lilacwine said:



    Hello,

    I want to make a fragrance based on sugar-snap peas, or what I think are known in America as snap peas. I have never come across a fragrance that reminds me of this smell. When I was walking past a house last week, I could smell sugar snap peas wafting from someones front garden and I realised what I wonderful smell this is. Would anyone know how one could go about recreating such a smell?

    Thanks,

    Jake

    9/23/13 at 5:30pm

    pkiler said:



    Cis-3-Hexanol, Cis-3-hex *stuff* - lots to pick from - Butyrates, Salicylates, Tiglates, Hexanoates... green types, try them out and find what is similar and blend, some Stemone, and go from there... You'll be close, but certainly not there, you'll have to do other work to get closer...

    9/24/13 at 12:54am

    David Ruskin said:



    Violet Nitrile. Iris Nitrile. 2-Methoxy, 3-isoButyl Pyrazine. These will help if you can get them. BUT, be very careful using them as they are VERY strong, and will need dilution.

    Triplal, Phenylacetaldehyde Dimethyl Acetal (i.e. PADMA) will also help. For the watery aspect; Helional, Melonal, Nonadienal (smells of cucumber, also very strong), a touch of Calone or Floralozone.

    9/25/13 at 1:44am

    lilacwine said:



    Thanks pkiler and David for your advice. I doubt I'll be able to get hold of some of the materials you mentioned David, but it's great to know for the sake of curiosity anyway.

    Jake

    9/25/13 at 5:39am

    Chris Bartlett said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilacwineView Post

    Thanks pkiler and David for your advice. I doubt I'll be able to get hold of some of the materials you mentioned David, but it's great to know for the sake of curiosity anyway.

    Jake

    Most of those (other than the nitriles and pyrazines) are currently available from either Perfumer's Apprentice, Hermitage, or De Hekserij.

    I'd also suggest Heptyl acetate, Stemone, Verdilyn and possibly Azarbre as potential contributors. I'm thinking about a way to make one or two of the pyrazines available, probably heavily pre-diluted too.

    9/25/13 at 8:53am

    David Ruskin said:



    Amongst Essential Oils, possibly Galbanum, and Angelica Root Oil. No idea how easy these are to obtain.

    9/25/13 at 11:43am

    pkiler said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by David RuskinView Post

    Violet Nitrile. Iris Nitrile.

    TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME where I can get these...!

    :-)

    wish I could get my hands on these!

    9/25/13 at 12:38pm

    Allen-at-home said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilacwineView Post

    Hello,

    I want to make a fragrance based on sugar-snap peas, or what I think are known in America as snap peas. I have never come across a fragrance that reminds me of this smell.

    Have you smelled Sweet Pea from Bath & Body Works? It has a very nice pea smell.

    9/26/13 at 2:05am

    David Ruskin said:



    Violet Nitrile CAS 97752-28-8

    Iris Nitrile CAS 29127-83-1

    Both offered by The Good Scents Company

    9/26/13 at 4:26am

    lilacwine said:



    I did an order from Hermitage Oils yesterday and I think I saw Iris and Violet Nitrile on there too. Didn't realise how great of a site it was. Everything I couldn't find/was out of stock on Olfactik was on there.

    9/26/13 at 4:30am

    lilacwine said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Allen-at-homeView Post

    Have you smelled Sweet Pea from Bath & Body Works? It has a very nice pea smell.

    No, haven't smelled this. I live in London so not sure how difficult it is to find this. I think it's more the shell of the sugar snap peas rather than the pea itself that I'm thinking of.

    9/26/13 at 4:32am

    lilacwine said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris BartlettView Post

    Most of those (other than the nitriles and pyrazines) are currently available from either Perfumer's Apprentice, Hermitage, or De Hekserij.

    I'd also suggest Heptyl acetate, Stemone, Verdilyn and possibly Azarbre as potential contributors. I'm thinking about a way to make one or two of the pyrazines available, probably heavily pre-diluted too.

    Thanks for recommending Hermitage Chris, I found most of the ones I needed. I'm a beginner so trying to recreate this might be a bit of a disaster. I noticed you have a course this weekend in Belsize Park. I really wanted to do it but am away this weekend. Hopefully there's another one there soon I can do as I live nearby.

    9/26/13 at 5:45am

    pkiler said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by David RuskinView Post

    Violet Nitrile CAS 97752-28-8

    Iris Nitrile CAS 29127-83-1

    Both offered by The Good Scents Company

    Hi David, TGSC *lists* them in their database, but they don't have them for sale... If they did, I would have bought them long ago... :-)

    9/27/13 at 1:56am

    David Ruskin said:



    Sorry about that Paul; I'm afraid that I don't know any suppliers (of anything). Violet Nitrile was a Quest speciality (now a Givaudan speciality) so it may not be easily available.

    9/29/13 at 3:54am

    Masha said:



    I think this recipie is like sugar-snap peas.
    not exactly, but quite near:
    galbanum eo - 2 drops
    jasmine grandiflorum abs 20% - 11 drops
    tuberose abs 20% - 5 drops
    cis-3-hexenol 10% - 1 drops
    is it really so? i'm intrested.

    10/2/13 at 9:58am

    Chris Bartlett said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MashaView Post
    I think this recipie is like sugar-snap peas.
    not exactly, but quite near:
    galbanum eo - 2 drops
    jasmine grandiflorum abs 20% - 11 drops
    tuberose abs 20% - 5 drops
    cis-3-hexenol 10% - 1 drops
    is it really so? i'm intrested.

    I've not made that up to try, but I'd have thought it would be pretty floral. Those are also some very expensive peas you've got there!

    10/2/13 at 10:41am

    Masha said:



    Those are also some very expensive peas you've got there!

    :grin:perhaps you're right!





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