alternatives to TF Sahara Noir

    alternatives to TF Sahara Noir

    post #1 of 27
    Thread Starter 

    I tested it ( and black orchid)on the back of my hand yesterday and HATED it. Ifound it utterly overpowering and Ido generally like overpowering.

    I hated it for the next 2 hours. Sniffed black orchid and loved it. As time wore on black orchid faded a lot but sahara noir blossomed into something wonderful. Every time I moved my hand I got a delicious whiff of this deep, comforting and sensuous perfume.

    In bed Icould smell it. This morning after a shower Icould too.

    So I decided to get myself a little bottle. On ebay the bottles are mostly 100ml's and very very expensive. Even the decants are pricey:lipsrsealed:

    I there anythingless outrageously expensive which is a good or even better, perhaps something that has more acceptable top/middle notes.

    I really miss the smell already!

    Thanks

    post #2 of 27
    Reading over the notes there are two fragrances that come to mind that maybe you should sample and consider:

    Les Orientalistes Encens Flamboyant by Annick Goutal

    Ambre Sultan by Serge Lutens

    Both can be found at a reasonable price on amazon.
    post #3 of 27
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    Thank you:beer:. I will look them up

    post #4 of 27

    l tried Sahara Noir recently & was struck by its similarity to Andy Tauer's lncense Extreme.

    post #5 of 27
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    thank you teardrop, I'll look that up. Did you like sahara noir btw?

    post #6 of 27
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    Originally Posted by teardropView Post

    l tried Sahara Noir recently & was struck by its similarity to Andy Tauer's lncense Extreme.
    This is a good one.
    post #7 of 27

    I found a similarity to Amber Absolute, but good luck finding that for cheap!

    Also, I wasn't under the impression Sahara Noir is that expensive. It's part of his mainline right? Even in Canada here where prices are inflated, I think it's $160 for 50ml, so a little higher on the 'niche' pricing size but not crazy bank breaking prices. Maybe there's unboxed testers for cheaper?

    post #8 of 27
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    Originally Posted by violetbatView Post

    thank you teardrop, I'll look that up. Did you like sahara noir btw?

    Yes l did, but l agree it starts off very strong. l would probably buy lncense Extreme in preference to it.

    post #9 of 27
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    teardrop, sorry to be a pest but can you explain at all why you prefer incense extreme? Hoe does it differfor you?

    master-classter, I guess you're right it's not that expensive and i am finding myself needing the smell, if that makes sense, or something that is in the perfume. Perhaps it is because it just lasts on me, when I move Ismell it all day long,it doesn't go away,atall!!

    This perfume hobby is all consuming, Ithink I am turning into an addict:huh:

    post #10 of 27

    That's ok violetbat, you are not being a pest, in fact it's a good question, & l'm glad you made me think about my reasons for preferring lncense Extreme.

    IMO, lncense Extreme has a more pleasing opening phase; bright & sparkling with notes of petitgrain & coriander. This citrus-herbal accord gives it a bit of lift, or lightness, if you will.

    Sahara Noir, as you found yourself, is much more dense, loud & overpowering in its thick, ambery, woody opening phase, & this persists for some time before settling into that lovely incensy mid-phase.

    lt is in that mid-phase that the two fragrances share a very similar vibe, l think. lt's just that lncense Extreme reaches it sooner, without battering you over the head first. Now l generally like my fragrances pretty strong, but SH is a bit too much even for me. Having saidthat, l reserve the right to change my mind if l try it again in cold weather.:wink:

    post #11 of 27
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    Thanks teardrop, that makes complete sense. I think I shall have to try and find a sample of it. In the uk that might be a bit tricky. I wish their website shipped to the uk then I could get a sample pack.

    post #12 of 27
    I think this search for cheaper 'smell-alikes' is largely fruitless. With very few exceptions there aren't that many that smell really similar. 'Buy cheap and buy twice' as they say. Sahara Noir is so potent that a bottle will last for years, you probably could use 1 spray or two at most each time.
    post #13 of 27
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    Hi Marais, thank you, I think you are quite right. I would splash out on sahara noir but, but, but there might be something similar that I like better, incense extreme for example, butgetting hold of a sample here in the uk is a problem.......:undecided:

    post #14 of 27
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    Originally Posted by violetbatView Post

    Hi Marais, thank you, I think you are quite right. I would splash out on sahara noir but, but, but there might be something similar that I like better, incense extreme for example, butgetting hold of a sample here in the uk is a problem.......undecided.gif

    You can get it from Les Senteurs....but the Tauer isn't much cheaper than the Tom Ford anyway - certainly not when you factor in the sample cost too:

    http://shop.lessenteurs.com/c/2121/Incense-Extreme
    post #15 of 27

    Never mind.

    post #16 of 27

    Given the couple of threads about it, I finally made a point of smelling it in a store. As others have said, it opens with a big loud amber, then follows into a nice amber-incense accord. There are other excellent ambers and incenses in niche perfumery, but, as others were saying, they are not necessarily cheaper than the TF.

    For instance, I feel that everything that SN does, Dior Mitzah does better: better frankincense, smoother ambers, more complexity, not as loud, but lasts longer. But Mitzah is more expensive and it is actually being discontinued.

    The Tauers are excellent, but not cheaper. The two incenses (Incense extreme and Incense rose) open in a completely different way to SN, with a striking fizzy, almost lemony incense note. I prefer the incense rose because it has a nice rose note in it. Tauer sells samples from his website; if you get them, you should also add L'air du desert marocain, another amber, but richer, deeper, sweeter, almost dusty.

    The above-mentioned Goutal (encens flamboyant) is very good too, and I think slightly cheaper (though not excessively so). Given what you were saying, I am going to guess that you are going to like also immortelle (helichrysum), which also has ambery(but not incensy) tones, but more towards spicy caramel. It lasts forever even on my skin. The reference for this material is probably Goutal Sables.

    cacio

    post #17 of 27
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    cacio, thank SO much. I have looked all those up, they sound delicious. There is a bottle of the dior on ebay I see, I shall watch it over the week, it does indeed sound intriguing . The Tauer samples are not sent to the uk. I am wondering whether to order from a site in the uk ( expensive, but I guess it ll is really).

    The Goutal also sounds wonderful.

    I am on a mission to discover theincense/amber that really does it for me. Who knows after all the trials I might come back to TF after all!

    post #18 of 27




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