Chandler Burr's Untitled Series S02E01

    Chandler Burr's Untitled Series S02E01

    post #1 of 20
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    Time for a new thread, a new season, let's get it on :vrolijk_26:





    S02E01—Episode 1 of The Untitled Series’ Season 2—is a work you’ll find subtly surprising when you smell it and much, much more surprising when, in the Reveal, you discover the concept behind it. As agay man, I’m familiar with its notorious, cultish, carnal, seminal origin story, which could have produced a fascinating, overwhelming, shocking, unwearable monster. In the event, the perfumer—one of the most brilliant artists of his generation—has managed to take the source’s central trope and build it into a sleek, seamless, effortlessly-wearable machine. All the more extraordinary given that this trope (in its French, not Finnish, format) was omnipresent in the early 20th century and has now in the 21st so thoroughly vanished that today perfumers are equally fascinated by it and despairing of ever creating with it. This guy succeeded, ingeniously. S02E01 is a time traveler. It’s a thing that shouldn’t work and yet works flawlessly.

    post #2 of 20
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    My first impressions, please excuse the bluntness: I don't think I would like this scent, the carnal side + sleek freshness sounds weird, although I like 'dirty' scents, this sounds more like a semen reference and I don't like any semen smelling materials, they make me nauseous :o


    Some questions: what is the meaning of a 'trope' in this context? Especially the French, but not Finnish trope??? (sorry English is not my native language and the dictionary doesn't offer much help in this case)

    Does this refer to an aromatic material?


    And where are the art movement references? :happy: 

    post #3 of 20

    More questions than answers!  The only thing I can think of right now was made by a woman and not a man, so that's out....  Looking forward to that first sniff.


    Mystery scent for sure!

    post #4 of 20
    Finnish? I'm intrigued.
    post #5 of 20

    Irina, "trope" is a very useful word referring to an artistic style or category. Use "trope," and the inference is that you're talking about the intellectual approach to the thing, the concept rather than any particular concrete example. 


    I have to admit that it can be vague, but I use the term to refer to something--a motif, say--that is used repeatedly by different artists. The artist in this case faced a very specific challenge: To take an olfactory category or motif (and I'm being intentionally vague because I of course don't want to put my own definitions on you; it's for you guys to experience and decide for yourselves) that had, post-war, gone completely out of style in North America and which is virtually non-existent in Asia and reinterpret it in 21st century form.


    NB: As is frequently the case, it is still admired in France, but, as is frequently the case in France, the French admire its static, antiquated form mostly in theory, not in reality. This is the huge problem France faces, their determination/ desperation to live in a vanished 16th and 17th-century past in which everything French was the best in the world and all things French were automatically superior. A world in which France is a somewhat small country that must compete against Japan, the US, Brazil, etc. in industries and cultural movements where it is 2nd or 3rd-ranked in the real, brutal new globalized economy and the hyper-competitive globalized culture and where the former genuflecting before Frenchness and, say, Truffaut's films is evaporating, attention flooding toward the latest Wong Kar Wai film and Korean flat screen TV, is irritating/ terrifying/ paralyzing to them. 


    There's a scene in the science fiction movie "Looper" in which Joseph Gordon Levitt's character is studying French and the Jeff Daniels' character, who was sent back from the future, rolls his eyes and says, "Forget France. Go to China." Levitt says, "But I want to go to France." Daniels rolls his eyes. "Kid. I'm from the future. Go to China." Levitt goes to China.


    This outmoded motif or category is what I'm calling a "trope," something repeated by numerous artists in their own ways--and now reinvented in S02E01, a few years ago (there's a hint), by this artist.


    Also, Irina, I'll tell you one thing concretely: The trope here is not semen, which plays no role in this work.


    Johnny, Finnish is both a huge hint and a very tough hint at the same time. I'll explain at the reveal.

    post #6 of 20

    Just ordered s02e01 - looking forward to it! As I just mentioned on the s01e10 thread, though, it looks like another shipping mixup may be happening with this scent: I have to admit, I'm intrigued at what scent's going to be showing up in my mailbox ;)

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    Wow, Chandler you are officially awesome! :beer:Thank you so much for taking the time to explain in length what you meant, the historical context and the movie references, they all help tremendously.

    I just heard from my amazing series-buddy that she ordered it and she'll send me a decant, can't wait! :vrolijk_26:


    (I do hope for both our sakes that the mix-up is being taking care of in a timely manner)

    post #8 of 20

    Hi guys. At this point I'm not going to comment. In any case, you know perfectly well what my reaction is.


    Rosebud, you didn't specify why it was the wrong bottle, but I take it that the Open Sky warehouse didn't send out S02E01, instead they sent bottles of S01E09 and 10, because that's what one of the posts says on Open sky: "Just got mine-- not. I was sent the mislabled bottle of SO1E10 -- the Sel de Vetiver one. Lovely as it is I want the SO2EO1." 


    I don't even know what they sent out because because both the Open Sky warehouse and office are closed today. (So at least nothing can be shipped.) 


    Please write Alyse directly if you got anything other than S02E01, and she'll get you the right bottle.



    post #9 of 20

    Hi, Chandler! Actually I haven't received my bottle yet, so I don't know what I'll be receiving (as I said above, I admit to being intrigued :D) I was just commenting on what I read on OpenSky. At any rate, despite the mixups, Alyse and OpenSky have been pretty accommodating, so I'm eager to continue with the project.

    post #10 of 20

    I just got my S02E01 yesterday.  It is properly labeled, a new scent (a very nice one, I might add), and has a unique, familiar, interesting facet that I assume is "the trope".  It's a smaller bottle - strong juice - unmistakable.  I wish I was a rich lady with a lot of bling, because this thing would go perfectly with some absurdly large diamonds.  Just my initial impressions.

    post #11 of 20
    My bottle arrived today! Immediate impressions: classic, feminine, mature, established, FRENCH. Not that the work is French but the style is very chic, little black dress with a cut out or two. Audrey Hepburn comes to mind. Not my style at all, which is irrelevant, but it's neat to study and experience.

    I have no idea what it is but I think I may know "the trope" and, if right, that's a big reason for why S02E01 is not my jam.
    post #12 of 20
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    Interesting observations, guys, thank you :thumbsup:

    post #13 of 20

    Red, "...has a unique, familiar, interesting facet that I assume is "the trope"." Without naming it till the reveal, you may well have identified it. I'll be very interested to find out on October 31. It's a 15ml bottle, which is the house's fault; they confirmed they were sending 30ml. Sigh. Rich lady bling would go perfectly with large diamonds. Wow. Uh, wait till you find out what it is.



    Shani, it's actually based on something that's hyper-American, although (again) based on the art of a Finn, who (again) absorbed and represented this strange ultra-Americanness. "classic, feminine, mature, established, Audrey Hepburn." Maybe S02E01 is the ultimate illustration that scent art really is not gendered while being, at the same time, the most hyper-gendered scent in conceptual terms that ever existed in history.

    post #14 of 20

    Chandler, what an interesting comment re: gender. S02E01 hit me straight out of the bottle as an almost stereotypically female scent. I experienced the opening as a blast of "women's perfume section of a department store" - kind of an Estee Lauder-fest - but then my husband and I agreed that it evolved a great deal from there. There are a lot of layers to this one - the opening is a bit of a bait and switch. S02E01 is almost like a mini-history of perfume in a bottle; it starts with the classic commercial style and moves on/evolves from there. By the end, I could detect glimmers of at least a couple of decades worth of perfumery, marching along in chronological order. As much as I do not enjoy the opening, the unfolding of the story and twists & turns are fascinating and surprising.


    I can't see myself reaching for this fragrance personally but I appreciate the opportunity to study it.

    post #15 of 20

    This is truly a great scent.  It is very concentrated, has huge longevity, and maintains its structure throughout.  I'm very impressed by this.  For something like Mugler Cologne, only 15 mL would feel like a total rip-off, but for this stuff, I'm a happy camper.  In fact, I am curious what the economics on this are, because $35 for 15 mL isn't bothering me.  I doubt I will go through this stuff that fast.

    post #16 of 20
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    Sorry to hear, Chandler, that there's been another mix up. I hope OS will send 2 bottles or refund 50% like they did with S01E03? I can't even begin to imagine how testing this project is for your patience and resilience.


    So this sounds like an Estee Lauder, American, IFF creation? It's not something like a celebrity Britney Spears type of scent, is it? Would be hilarious :lolk:

    post #17 of 20

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