new game: has-been or elder statesman?

    new game: has-been or elder statesman?

    post #1 of 14
    Thread Starter 
    So I'll name a famous person, then you say whether they're a has-been or an elder statesman. Then you post a famous person, and so on.

    Here goes the thread starter (and feel free to explain why you feel the way you feel):

    Mike Tyson
    post #2 of 14

    elder statesmen

    was the champ

    he is on tour

    Charlie Sheen

    post #3 of 14
    Thread Starter 
    Charlie Sheen is a mediocre actor who found one TV role that fit his limited skills and ran with it. Then he whizzed it down his leg.

    Has been.

    George W Bush
    post #4 of 14

    George w. Bush, master magician who fooled "you lot" into voting for him,but you have to say elder statesman.

    Pete Townshend.

    post #5 of 14
    Thread Starter 
    Pete is an elder statesman. Outlived half of The Who, survived an internet scandal, and his guitar poses are iconinc. Perhaps not relevant and not stylistically influential on guitarists, but an elder statesman nonetheless.

    Billy Joel
    post #6 of 14

    Agree with some of your comments Demon on Pete,personally I think the man is almost God like.

    Now Billy Joel,good songwriter and piano player,lengthy career,in the annals of Rock history the man would be given a couple of pages,so for that he scrapes in as an Elder Statesman.

    J F K. (I think I already KNOW the answer to this one.)

    post #7 of 14
    Thread Starter 
    JFK is certainly an elder statesman. Still referenced and quoted despite a very abbreviated time in office.

    Tom Waits
    post #8 of 14

    Elder statesman/musician.

    Barack Hussein Obama II.

    post #9 of 14
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RusselView Post

    Elder statesman/musician.





    Barack Hussein Obama II.




    Tough one. He's undefeated in presidential elections.....he's had to endure arguably the TOUGHEST opposition in presidential history with zero cooperation from the right...yet he perseveres. That's kept him from achieving all he was elected to do...and it's next to impossible to reach new heights. Wow. All things being equal, he's the first president who is not the traditional race we've seen in the white house. That tilts him slightly to:

    elder statesman.

    .

    Eddie Van Halen
    post #10 of 14

    Though not an expert in this music genre, would tend to say more:elder statesman. Too much impact on music so far, even without newer releases, to make me credibly label him as a "has been".

    So I'd say, in brief: elderly statesman, but by a margin/"landslide victory".

    OK. Moving on to the next:

    Karl Lagerfeld

    post #11 of 14

    Karl Lagerfeld,I know NOTHING about the man other than the fact like ALL fashion designers (Men and Women) they are strange,but he is well known so for that alone.

    ELDER STATESMAN.

    Steve Martin.

    post #12 of 14

    Great comedian-OK movies

    elder statesmen

    Andrew Dice Clay

    post #13 of 14

    From what I know of him, (I'm a Brit) "in your face, offensive comic" who was very popular a few years ago,strong New York (is it Brooklyn? accent) thinks he's a tough guy,(I'd meet him on the cobbles)probably middle class pretending to be working class.TOTAL FAKE.

    Pleased to say HAS BEEN.

    Mel Gibson.

    post #14 of 14

    Great flicks- a lot of personal issues..

    Braveheart is at the top of my list and Apocolypse Now

    Elder Statesmen

    Mike Shanahan

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    10/19/13 at 10:57pm

    DEMON said:



    So I'll name a famous person, then you say whether they're a has-been or an elder statesman. Then you post a famous person, and so on.

    Here goes the thread starter (and feel free to explain why you feel the way you feel):

    Mike Tyson

    10/20/13 at 8:40am

    Tony T said:



    elder statesmen

    was the champ

    he is on tour

    Charlie Sheen

    10/20/13 at 9:28am

    DEMON said:



    Charlie Sheen is a mediocre actor who found one TV role that fit his limited skills and ran with it. Then he whizzed it down his leg.

    Has been.

    George W Bush

    10/20/13 at 10:10am

    Sam Walton said:



    George w. Bush, master magician who fooled "you lot" into voting for him,but you have to say elder statesman.

    Pete Townshend.

    10/20/13 at 3:00pm

    DEMON said:



    Pete is an elder statesman. Outlived half of The Who, survived an internet scandal, and his guitar poses are iconinc. Perhaps not relevant and not stylistically influential on guitarists, but an elder statesman nonetheless.

    Billy Joel

    10/20/13 at 3:23pm

    Sam Walton said:



    Agree with some of your comments Demon on Pete,personally I think the man is almost God like.

    Now Billy Joel,good songwriter and piano player,lengthy career,in the annals of Rock history the man would be given a couple of pages,so for that he scrapes in as an Elder Statesman.

    J F K. (I think I already KNOW the answer to this one.)

    10/20/13 at 9:15pm

    DEMON said:



    JFK is certainly an elder statesman. Still referenced and quoted despite a very abbreviated time in office.

    Tom Waits

    10/21/13 at 2:32am

    Russel said:



    Elder statesman/musician.

    Barack Hussein Obama II.

    10/21/13 at 7:04am

    DEMON said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RusselView Post

    Elder statesman/musician.





    Barack Hussein Obama II.




    Tough one. He's undefeated in presidential elections.....he's had to endure arguably the TOUGHEST opposition in presidential history with zero cooperation from the right...yet he perseveres. That's kept him from achieving all he was elected to do...and it's next to impossible to reach new heights. Wow. All things being equal, he's the first president who is not the traditional race we've seen in the white house. That tilts him slightly to:

    elder statesman.

    .

    Eddie Van Halen

    10/22/13 at 10:58am

    Ken_Russell said:



    Though not an expert in this music genre, would tend to say more:elder statesman. Too much impact on music so far, even without newer releases, to make me credibly label him as a "has been".

    So I'd say, in brief: elderly statesman, but by a margin/"landslide victory".

    OK. Moving on to the next:

    Karl Lagerfeld

    10/23/13 at 4:37pm

    Sam Walton said:



    Karl Lagerfeld,I know NOTHING about the man other than the fact like ALL fashion designers (Men and Women) they are strange,but he is well known so for that alone.

    ELDER STATESMAN.

    Steve Martin.

    10/23/13 at 4:40pm

    Tony T said:



    Great comedian-OK movies

    elder statesmen

    Andrew Dice Clay

    10/23/13 at 5:03pm

    Sam Walton said:



    From what I know of him, (I'm a Brit) "in your face, offensive comic" who was very popular a few years ago,strong New York (is it Brooklyn? accent) thinks he's a tough guy,(I'd meet him on the cobbles)probably middle class pretending to be working class.TOTAL FAKE.

    Pleased to say HAS BEEN.

    Mel Gibson.

    10/24/13 at 5:07am

    Tony T said:



    Great flicks- a lot of personal issues..

    Braveheart is at the top of my list and Apocolypse Now

    Elder Statesmen

    Mike Shanahan





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