What note is Tart or Sour?

    What note is Tart or Sour?

    post #1 of 8
    Thread Starter 

    I am creating my own fragrance, and I need something tart or sour to finalize it. I don’t want or need anymore fruit or citrus, so I won’t be adding any grapefruit or lemon, etc. (Side note: Although not tart or sour, I have already added cucumber, which ruined it.) Any ideas?

    post #2 of 8

    First thing that came to mind when "Tart" or "Sour" was called for was Kaffir Lime EO. (VERRRRY TART)

    You could try some Dimethyl sulfide, about 1 drop of a .01% solution, then add a bit more slowly...

    You could also think about these:

    Adoxal

    2-isobutyl-3-methoxypyrazine

    Lemon Eucalyptus

    post #3 of 8

    Rhubafuran is very sour, but also a bit fruity,

    Cassisbase 345 Firmenich, also fruity,

    buchu leaf eo, analogical for a chemical: buccoxime,

    labienoxime

    methyl pamplemousse, it isnt lemony nor fruity but quite sour with a bitter aspect.


    Edited by Conni HD - 10/22/13 at 12:55pm
    post #4 of 8
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkilerView Post

    First thing that came to mind when "Tart" or "Sour" was called for was Kaffir Lime EO. (VERRRRY TART)

    You could try some Dimethyl sulfide, about 1 drop of a .01% solution, then add a bit more slowly...

    You could also think about these:

    Adoxal

    2-isobutyl-3-methoxypyrazine

    Lemon Eucalyptus

    Thanks, the lime or eucalyptus, either one, would work.

    post #5 of 8
    Thread Starter 
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Conni HDView Post

    Rhubafuran is very sour, but also a bit fruity,

    Cassisbase 345 Firmenich, also fruity,

    buchu leaf eo, analogical for a chemical: buccoxime,

    labienoxime

    methyl pamplemousse, it isnt lemony nor fruity but quite sour with a bitter aspect.

    Thanks, rhubafuran sounds very interesting, might be worth looking into.

    post #6 of 8

    If you find a place selling the Rhubafuran, please let me know, I have only a few drops left, and I need more...

    And I also was thinking of Cassis and Buchu too.

    post #7 of 8
    Civet?
    post #8 of 8

    Hi Allen at home

    I would second what Conni HD says - Buchu was my first thought - tart and sour. For fruits I'd lean towards Green Mandarin, starting material contains less sugars than Yellow or Red offerings and has a somwhat sharp tart kick about it. Maybe also in minute amounts you may have luck with, Blackcurrant bud, mastic, gromwell, nagarmotha, rue and maybe even valerian or spikenard actually. Im certain plenty of USA companies will offer all these, all the best and it would be good to know what you settle on. Adam

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    10/22/13 at 8:05am

    Allen-at-home said:



    I am creating my own fragrance, and I need something tart or sour to finalize it. I don’t want or need anymore fruit or citrus, so I won’t be adding any grapefruit or lemon, etc. (Side note: Although not tart or sour, I have already added cucumber, which ruined it.) Any ideas?

    10/22/13 at 9:28am

    pkiler said:



    First thing that came to mind when "Tart" or "Sour" was called for was Kaffir Lime EO. (VERRRRY TART)

    You could try some Dimethyl sulfide, about 1 drop of a .01% solution, then add a bit more slowly...

    You could also think about these:

    Adoxal

    2-isobutyl-3-methoxypyrazine

    Lemon Eucalyptus

    10/22/13 at 12:36pm

    Conni HD said:



    Rhubafuran is very sour, but also a bit fruity,

    Cassisbase 345 Firmenich, also fruity,

    buchu leaf eo, analogical for a chemical: buccoxime,

    labienoxime

    methyl pamplemousse, it isnt lemony nor fruity but quite sour with a bitter aspect.


    Edited by Conni HD - 10/22/13 at 12:55pm

    10/23/13 at 6:42pm

    Allen-at-home said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkilerView Post

    First thing that came to mind when "Tart" or "Sour" was called for was Kaffir Lime EO. (VERRRRY TART)

    You could try some Dimethyl sulfide, about 1 drop of a .01% solution, then add a bit more slowly...

    You could also think about these:

    Adoxal

    2-isobutyl-3-methoxypyrazine

    Lemon Eucalyptus

    Thanks, the lime or eucalyptus, either one, would work.

    10/23/13 at 6:44pm

    Allen-at-home said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Conni HDView Post

    Rhubafuran is very sour, but also a bit fruity,

    Cassisbase 345 Firmenich, also fruity,

    buchu leaf eo, analogical for a chemical: buccoxime,

    labienoxime

    methyl pamplemousse, it isnt lemony nor fruity but quite sour with a bitter aspect.

    Thanks, rhubafuran sounds very interesting, might be worth looking into.

    10/23/13 at 9:16pm

    pkiler said:



    If you find a place selling the Rhubafuran, please let me know, I have only a few drops left, and I need more...

    And I also was thinking of Cassis and Buchu too.

    10/23/13 at 9:19pm

    mercutio said:



    Civet?

    10/24/13 at 7:42am

    Hermitage Oils said:



    Hi Allen at home

    I would second what Conni HD says - Buchu was my first thought - tart and sour. For fruits I'd lean towards Green Mandarin, starting material contains less sugars than Yellow or Red offerings and has a somwhat sharp tart kick about it. Maybe also in minute amounts you may have luck with, Blackcurrant bud, mastic, gromwell, nagarmotha, rue and maybe even valerian or spikenard actually. Im certain plenty of USA companies will offer all these, all the best and it would be good to know what you settle on. Adam