I cannot open the links. But I assume it's just a double entry. Notes are mostly marketing anyway, plus notes on fragrantica aren't necessarily those...
Aramis (leather) and A*men (woods, patch) come to mind, although I think they are not as strong as they used to be. In some malls it's also possible...
Great descriptions! It seems all suggest ripe but the "over"-ripeness depends on the person. Do you find any of these over-ripe or just ripe?
To me,...