This is very sad news.
This is very sad news.
That is soooo bad. :(
Oh that's dreadful. To kill a man because he stole a perfume. Dear oh dear. :(
i wonder what the fragrance he stole that was to die for
He could have gone for something a little better than Joop!
Ironic when I go to that page a Fragrancenet ad pops up for discount perfume
Don't steal perfume.
While this is horrible, questions come to mind. For example, why did the other three guards not restrain their fellow guard? Are they charged with complicity? Were any of the guards injured in the scuffle?
While the article presents a horrible picture, I am not sure it is sufficiently complete.
Just terrible really. Not that I want to be judegmental but the security guard looks a right nasty piece of work in that photo.
That news article literally made me queasy. Who the hell would kill somebody for shoplifting? What is wrong with people?
That's just a horrible & tragic event that did not need to happen.
This is clearly a creature who enjoys a uniform and the little bit of power it gives him. He is a vile squalid sadistic fascist piece of subhuman filth who should go down for life!!!!!
^Someone just died a rather brutal death. Hello.
Absolutely horrendous. I'd never condone shoplifting but to say the reaction was over the top is a massive understatement. The culprit deserves to go down for a very long time.
Its shocking that he would steal something that was only £35 which goes to prove that thieves have very poor taste
I can kinda understand wanting to kill someone over Joop. I mean, have you smelled that stuff?
I'm appalled. People are paying £35 for Joop!? What's the world coming to...
As for the guard. Excessive force? Yes, but it might not be out of malice. Security guards are paid to use their strength prevent people stealing and making trouble. Wise judgment and careful thinking are not job requirements to be a mall cop; there's no guarantee the guard was the sharpest melon baller in the kitchenware shop, if you catch my meaning. He could have just been doing what he thought of as his job.
That "security guard" needs to go to prison for a long, long time.
So, someone has decided that the price of a human life should be £35? Gruesomely.
None of us were there-- I doubt the security guard tried to kill him, he could have had health issues--also, I believe the article stated that the thief tried to physically resist being apprehended. It's sad that the guy died-- no doubt about it-- but if it's in anyway "tragic", it's only tragic that he only considered his own life worth $35. The thief was only a victim of his own poor judgment. I'm anything but heartless, but people have to be responsible for their own behavior. Nobody thinks we should live in the times of the Bloody Code, but seriously, criminals shouldn't expect the red carpet either.
I think that everyone needs to take a moment and take a deep breath .... I think it was a case of accidental death as opposed to heavy handed cold blooded murder . No it should have never happened , but then again it wouldnt have had the bottle of perfume not been stolen in the first place ...
.... Its not like his children were starving and he stole food to feed them with .
Another article on the subject:
So it seems even the manager was clueless about inappropriate ways of restraining. Did that guard have any actual, proper training, I wonder? Or was he just hired muscle?
If objecting verbally wasn't enough to save this man's life, what should bystanders ideally have done?
I asked myself what I hope I would think to do if I saw this happening, and I've concluded that calling 911 as soon as it became apparent that the guard was choking the man would be the best action, although help might still not have arrived quickly enough.
Horrible, simply horrible. Those two articles made me all sad.
What must that poor man not have been thinking while slowly
dying ... oh God, poor fellow! Not to mention his family! Jeez!
A disgrace. Period. And TRAGIC for this man's family.
This is very unspeakable act!Kill someone for stealing a perfume !Can't bear the thought of it!
My sympathy to the victim's family !!!
Let's not forget that the victim was a soldier. Four men were needed to hold him down...
That being said, the security guard should be in jail. He was doing a chokehold the wrong way.
At least use a taser or pepperspray, if that's legal.
The Irish poet Brendan Behan said it best, and sometimes it seems sadly true: “There is no human situation so miserable that it cannot be made worse by the presence of a policeman.”
This is very sad.....Gary
Sad how many people hate the police ( usually right up until the point they really, really need the police ).
JamieB wrote: The Irish poet Brendan Behan said it best, and sometimes it seems sadly true: “There is no human situation so miserable that it cannot be made worse by the presence of a policeman.”
Wow, a lot of hate on these boards today. This thread no longer has anything to do with fragrance, does it? I think the actions of one civilian department store security guard in England do not represent the law enforcement profession. Police are asked not to stereotype, why is ok to stereotype the police? Perhaps I'm ultra sensitive because I am cop, or because my father, a cop, gave his life protecting someone whose name he didn't even know. Jaime, spend a day with me--an hour--answering 911 calls. You may encounter a few people whose lives are not made more miserable by my presence.
@ MikeNY, I've been thinking about this incident and am wondering what the best action would be for a civilian who saw something like this happening. At first I thought, "call 911" but as the police were already on their way, this wouldn't have helped.
What say you?
And thanks to indie guy, sugarandaja, teardrop, and gmmcnair!
Can we go back to talking about fragrances now? I come here to escape all this!
Thanks Mike, that makes sense...and maybe this thread ought to be moved to Off Topic?
I hope this is not too much off-topic, because I don't want to argue the point. I accept that others may disagree with me, no problem there.
It was not my intention to offend, I was merely quoting something that came into my head. I have known many fine policemen in my day, especially back in my New York days. I probably posted rashly and ill-advisedly. I hope anyone who felt offended at my remark will be kind enough to recognize it wasn't meant to be hurtful, and be gracious enough to forgive me.
But I do wish that people would get my name right; It's JaimeB, not JamieB. The name is Spanish, not English, but it is my name. Thank you for at least trying...