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Zen (original / Black) by Shiseido, 1964

100% Positive Reviews
Rated #823 in Fragrances

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I am describing the older black bottle original classic. I LOVE this. This is a mysterious thorn ridden, bewitching lacquered rose. It is somehow imperious and heated.It is somehow bringing up associations of holiday seasonal magic. It exists in a timeless thrilling world.

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I bought this one whilst holidaying in NY. It was winter time and I loved Zen's dark mysterious presence and I think, for the season, it smelt beautiful and very reasonably priced to boot. I wasnt thinking about how this lovely dark beauty would translate here in sub tropical Brisbane, Australia. My trip was about 4 months ago and I am waiting for our (mild by comparison) winter so that I can feel comfortable wearing Zen. I pick up the bottle from time to time and I am itching to spritz but I know it would be a little cloying and heady - for me anyway. That's ok I can wait.

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For such an affordable option, Zen smells of decent quality. It has very good longevity and doesn't fall apart in the drydown. I haven't sampled the vintage version, but the current rendition smells plausible. It is very woody in the classic chypre manner. While not as rich as, say, Derby, it moves in that direction. There is nothing overly feminine and this can easily be worn by men with aplomb.

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It is sad this wonderful fragrance was discontinued. It was definitely woody notes with a bit of spice, very light oriental. My mother and I bought my grandmother a bottle of this when I was a small child, and I can still see the beautiful black and gold bottle on her dresser. This fragrance will always remind me of the holidays and Christmas shopping, and as a child I thought it was the best perfume I had ever smelled. The new Zen is a poor imposter in my opinion.

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One of the most complex scents ever, a meticulous work of balancements and measure, an effluvium suspended in the time of a millenary tradition. I own the Original Black bought in Tokyo which i treasure as a nun uses to do with her virginity. This is a floral-mossy chypre that exudes a watery and freshly incensed kind of oriental mysticism. It's not dense or viscous but darkly fluid and subtle even if a touch of powder closes the round. This juice reproduces as few other scents out there the deep mystery of the japanese culture and this element could fully be caught specially by people that had the luck to visit the wonderful country of Japan. Its ethereal tamed floral sweetness expresses the same vein of Mitsouko even if the last is a different, more resinous, spicy and rooty kind of fragrance. Zen contains a dry floral bouquet from which emerges the rose side by side whith narcissus, mimosa, geranium, carnation and  others. Flowers start to fly in the air since the starting citrusy-orangy blast. The combination of the woodsy resin of galbanum, bergamot, orange blossom and some ethereal light flowers as rose, mimosa, narcissus and hiacinth exudes a sort of vintage and retro effect since the beginning. There has to be something fresh and watery that floods the floral-citrusy elements in order to wash the woody final warmth, to impress the right dosage of freshness and to get airy the incense. The incensed, resinous galbanum starts to express its gummy touch since the citrus-floral blast and the watery flux engages itself to smooth the resins, to balance the level of density and rise the drought. Violets and jasmine enhance a bit of sophistication, mystery and timeless feel. All the other elements that compose the final product, i mean smoky woods, musks, cedar and amber are dry in my perception. The combination of rose-geranium, citruses, dry sandalwood and a touch of woodsy incense reminds to me the dry myster and the "shadowy transparences and waterinesses" of N. 88 C&S. While the woods provide structure and stableness the dry amber and a moderately animal musk give mystery to the final outcome without sliding towards the syrupy side. A smoky touch of frankincense (may be the incensey smell is present just on the top because of galbanum but extending its "longa manus" till the base notes), an hint of smoke and woodsy oakmoss complete the work impressing an heavy trail of moody darkness to the fluid that, with its unsyrupy black slightly powdery fluidity, epitomizes a strictly oriental concept of mystery.

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Why do they change the composition of great perfumes? WHY? WHY? WHY? This really infuriates me. If they want to create a new perfume, fine. There is always room for a new fragrance. Just don't use the name of a classic fragrance on a new one. Do these marketing people think we are so dumb we will not see the difference? Although Zen is supposed to be a chypre cuir, I have not seen leather in the olfactive pyramid I found on the Net: Top notes: bergamot, hyacinth, galbanum Middle notes: white jasmine, violet, rose Base notes: sandalwood, amber, oak moss Nevertheless, I can detect a very subtle smokey note in the composition. In my opinion, this is what makes this classy EDT so original. Zen is supposed to be discontinued. If so, I will truly miss it. It was my secretary's signature fragrance in the early 80's and I adored it. I still remember very vividly this great fragrance. The mere idea of never smelling Zen again makes me sad...

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Very occasionally a perfume will, with the first whiff, create in my mind an instantaneous impression of a particular place or situation. Zen is one of those. The first time I smelled it, I immediately pictured myself sitting in front of a fireplace on a chilly evening, sipping hot cider. This is a decidedly woody fragrance, and although there is no discernible (to my nose at least) note of smoke or ashes, the wood I picture is always in a fireplace, not a forest. I would describe it as a cozy comfort scent. Sometimes I will take the cap off the bottle and sniff just for the warm, cozy feeling I get from this fragrance. Some other reviewers have called this a "little black dress" scent, but I picture the little black dress being worn for an intimate evening for two (preferably in front of the fireplace), not a cocktail party. Highly recommended!

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Basenotes lists this scent as discontinued, but I just bought some EDC from Macys and was happy to welcome it back into my wardrobe. One other review calls this a "little black dress" scent and that's exactly right. Its powdery and both woodsy and oriental, very grown-up and sophisticated but not heavy or sweet. A real winner.

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Well my crush wears this and I hugged her fairly recently.... I didn't smell it at all, I can't give it a thumbs down since I haven't tried it but no longevity or sillage thats for sure.

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A friend sent me a little decant of Zen to compare with Spirit of Zen. The original Zen really suprises me. When I got it, I sniffed from vail, but merely only got aldehydes. So I thought it's quite similar with the later Spirit of Zen. But yesterday when I apply it on wrist, it like a bomb "burst" on my skin, and suddenly, the strong and heavy woody notes exploding and roaring within aldehydes. This heavy woody notes almost like burning dry wood, with bit spicy, you can feel the intense flame, and smoky dusty air surround you.
Masculine, if people want to put it this way. I rather think it's a strong-mind or dignity scent for a very powerful woman.

The staying power is superb for cologne water, it lasts the whole day on my skin.

Definitely worth a try!
Zen (original / Black) by Shiseido, 1964
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Launched Date1964
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