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  1. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Thank you the suggestion, it's already in the list!
  2. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Added, thanks!
  3. Re: How do you rate Nuit de Bakelite next to Fracas, Carnal Flower and Tubereuse Criminelle?

    Thinking about tuberose, I forgot to cite ELdO Vierges et Toreros, which in my opinion is one of the most creative tuberose around, very wearable for men. I own and love it!
  4. Re: Cold/Detached Fragrances (In Need Of Recommendations)

    I guess the OP means low budget, more than "niche" (a word I still struggle to understand btw). Nowadays, many designers are similarly priced or sometimes even more expensive than some houses...
  5. Re: Is NOTINO for USA ever going to come back?

    I have no clue, but given how many discounters are currently available in the US, I don't really see what difference it would make.
  6. Re: What are some fragrances that you just can't understand why they are loved?

    Creed is far from being my favourite house, but still, I cannot deny that they know how to make quality blend. But as you said, stating that "does not understand why others like Creed" makes that...
  7. Re: She Was An Anomaly by Etat Libre d'Orange

    Not sure what source you're talking about, but nothing of what you stated in your first post provides any new information that was not already published in the article of Fragrantica (and many other...
  8. Re: Cold/Detached Fragrances (In Need Of Recommendations)

    All good suggestions!
    I'd add a few frags that would fit the dark dept:
    - Jovoy la Liturgie des Heures
    - Armani Bois d'Encens
    - Unum LAVS
    - Lutens Serge Noire
    - Boss Damask Oud
    - MFK Lumiere...
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    Re: Latest Frederic Malle - Rose & Cuir!

    And also here:

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/468265-The-new-Frederic-Malle-fragrance-to-be-released-in-September-2019
  10. Re: how often is poor performance really your nose not performing

    I wish reform panickers and batch talkers would sometimes ask themselves this question.
  11. Re: What are some fragrances that you just can't understand why they are loved?

    Same comment as my previous one: not understanding a frag is a thing, not understanding a whole house seems more a hate towards the hype some houses receive, or the brand image they give. Hard to...
  12. Re: What are some fragrances that you just can't understand why they are loved?

    I understand one may not like a few frags from a given house (TdH, Dzongkha, Timbuktu, TF Grey Vetiver), because of some notes , like Iso-E. (even if in these case, the noticeable common note they...
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    Re: Orto Parisi?

    Yes. I don't remember well Nudiflorum tbh. But since I don't remember it, that says it all :laugh:.

    Pardon is all about chocolate. A good one, but I don;t like chocolate note in perfumes, so I may...
  14. Re: What are some fragrances that you just can't understand why they are loved?

    This.

    Hey Avo, great SOTD btw!
  15. Re: VCA Santal Blanc - anyone tried it?

    Tried it in Paris. As far as I remember, average projection at best. Quite soft and soothing. Not full bottle worthy for a man imo, unless one can find it heavily discounted. For a woman, it may tick...
  16. Re: She Was An Anomaly by Etat Libre d'Orange

    Also the source of your post apparently ;)

    Thanks for the link. Fragrantica's article was about a specific fragrance, and they cited IBM and Symrise several times when developing about AI tools.
  17. Re: Why don't more cologne companies ignore the restrictions on oakmoss?

    Because in the US people drag people in court for no reason. If a widely expert opinion (like IFRA would be considered in such case) is publicly available, and someone sues a frag house for allergic...
  18. Re: She Was An Anomaly by Etat Libre d'Orange

    I am. These people should go to hell imo :evil:
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    Re: New member want advice

    Welcome Leilee!

    The suggestionof sjg3839 is the best you could have. Fragrance are so personality-dependent, that you must try, and be "wowed" yourself so you feel comfortable wearing it.

    On my...
  20. Re: Your favorite Christian Dior niche fragrance ?

    I did. I liked it, but not my favourite. I forgot about that one in my previous post. Anyways, thanks for the suggestion!
  21. Re: She Was An Anomaly by Etat Libre d'Orange

    Interesting thoughts. Here is the link to an article on AI in frags, should you be interested:
    ...
  22. Re: She Was An Anomaly by Etat Libre d'Orange

    Agreed. That said I'm afraid the wide use of AI will only lead to an "homogenization" of frags leaning towards what the mainstream tastes are. (it's already used today, and that explain why the new...
  23. Re: Your favorite Christian Dior niche fragrance ?

    At such price point, I want uniqueness. I thought Cuir Cannage was good, but crowdpleasing, pretty unisex, and not original. More of a suede than black leather. Just my taste obvioulsy.

    I forgot...
  24. Re: Your favorite Christian Dior niche fragrance ?

    Exactly these two.

    Also interesting are Santal Noir (a luxury version of Chanel Egoiste), Vetiver (even if at that price point I would favor Chanel Sycomore), and Ambre Elixir Precieux (but its...
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    Re: Orto Parisi?

    Tried them all. I'm copying my thoughts from a previous response:

    I found all Orto Parisi's frags from great to mindblowing. Stercus, Terroni, Viride, Bergamask are all masterpieces imo. Megamare...
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    Re: Orto Parisi?

    I really enjoyed Boccanera when I tried it, despite I'm usually not found of the chocolate note in fragrances, and that says much!
    Viride is one of the top 3 green frags I ever happened to smell....
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    Re: Orto Parisi?

    Agreed. I found Black Afghano great, but not unique, a more refined version of Gucci Intense Oud and LM Black Oud. Same for Duro, but it's just a (slightly) more refined version of Montale Aoud Musk....
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    Re: Alternative to Black Orchid?

    Tiziana Terenzi Maremma
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    Re: Is Linearity Such a Bad Thing?

    Exactly my thoughts. If the frag has great top notes, why not keeping them til the base? (ie Gucci Guilty Absolute)
    That said, sometimes, the opening is great, but one would expect some...
  30. Re: "L'homme" YSL or "La nuit de l'homme" YSL ?

    La Nuit de L'Homme is a nice evening frag, while L'Homme is more an office frag.

    Of these 2, La Nuit de L'Homme. I;d suggest trying L'Homme Parfum Intense, which is very pleasant also. (or even...
  31. Re: She Was An Anomaly by Etat Libre d'Orange

    Havne't found yet a fragrance from Andrier full bottle worthy.

    According to her words, despite she blended quite commercially successful iris-centered fragrances for Prada (L'Homme, Infusion...
  32. Re: Dior Sauvage: generic freshie... or misunderstood prickly pear weirdo?

    Generic doesn't mean bad, just that it smells common compared to the other houses offerings.

    I don't find it bad, just overpriced, since ambroxan is present in many frags, and for me, only...
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    Re: Tauer Lonesome Rider - Discontinued

    My bad, I was confused!
  34. Re: EXCLUSIVE for BASENOTES members - Chicago sampling event OCTOBER

    Hi,

    Thanks for organizing. I may join, once it is organized, but will let you know at the last minute. Thus, I'd suggest not to count me in the "minimum" required list of people as I cannot...
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    Re: Tauer Lonesome Rider - Discontinued

    What brought you to ask them that? It's still listed on Tauer's website... It's a best seller, why would they discontinue it?
  36. Re: Which niche brand you think is well worth the price?

    Beaufort
    Naomi Goodsir
    Tauer (the regular and top line, not the Tauerville line, that I feel is not as interesting - and similarly priced: ~$70 for 1oz, while the regular is $130 for 1.7oz of more...
  37. Re: Which niche brand you think is well worth the price?

    I'd agree for HdP, even if only a few really wowed me.

    "Subtle craftmanship" is the right definition for De Nicolai. Too subtle for my tastes (I'm talking about creativity, not sillage).

    As for...
  38. Re: Which niche brand you think is well worth the price?

    Even if these were cheap, I can't think of more than 3 or 4 I'd get honestly. Just my opinion.
  39. Re: Conquering Fragrancenet: A Guide to Navigating The Biggest Discounter You Love to Hate

    I confirm. They must have done their "yearly update" haha.

    The new one is: GRPW37

    Enjoy!
  40. Re: FINALLY - Found a vetiver I don't like

    You should, the smaller brother of Dyptique Vetyverio EDP, and only costs $40!





    Yep, excellent thread by Mythrol with detailed description. It's 4 years old though, since several ones...
  41. Re: FINALLY - Found a vetiver I don't like

    It's true that vetiver oil is very affordable (due to high availability of the vetiver plant, and cheap extraction process), and that's why even cheap vetiver frags "smell good", since it fits the...
  42. Re: Help purchasing Fragrance Du Bois Oud Vert Intense -

    Tried a few at Jovoy in Paris. I tested them on paper strips, so it is what it is.

    While I find Malle's frags overpriced to very overpriced, I had a few that wowed me. To be honest, I found all...
  43. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    In the US they are only sold at Barneys, a high-end dept store. (But soon it will be somewhere else, since many Barneys stores are going to close)
  44. Re: Conquering Fragrancenet: A Guide to Navigating The Biggest Discounter You Love to Hate

    If not, coupon code GPYA37 is always active to get 37% ;)
    I just meant the Gexp app was better designed imo than FragNet's
  45. Re: Conquering Fragrancenet: A Guide to Navigating The Biggest Discounter You Love to Hate

    Just a quick update: unfortunately, FragranceNet is not unavailable anymore on Google Express.... Bye-bye free and fast ship over $15, bye-bye 20% off for first shoppers, bye-bye easy checkout and...
  46. Re: FINALLY - Found a vetiver I don't like

    I guess you're talking about the green bottle/silver cap, right?
  47. Re: FINALLY - Found a vetiver I don't like

    Are you talking about Carven Le Vetiver (white bottle/grey woody cap) or the more recent Carven Vetiver (green bottle/silver cap)?

    I love the first (even if it has an "old schoolish" aspect in the...
  48. Re: FINALLY - Found a vetiver I don't like

    We all had that experience, it's a design flaw of the bottle. Now that it's broken the sprayer leaks on the side when sprayed, but still works. I should transfer the juice in a new bottle though to...
  49. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    I agree that De Nicolai maybe shouldn;t have been part of this list. I discussed the matter with a different poster who also underlined that here...
  50. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    Thank you for your kind response, Hednic. As I said before, I admire your diplomacy, and some days I wish I had as great communication skills as you have.
    Your answer is a real lesson for me on how...
  51. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    THIS. Again guys: it's about DISREGULATED capitalism we are living in real life, not the capitalism that would have supposedly made everybody happy that have been sold to us on paper in the early...
  52. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    Of course it is! open your eyes and look around! The current $ amount of investments for new brands is historically high, because the cosmetics industry is currently having an exponential growth, and...
  53. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    Agreed, I love the original, but the rest is uninteresting. I had high hopes for Nuit de Megeve: very disappointed.
  54. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    Yes, By Kilian (Estee Lauder), another good example. Serge Lutens (Shiseido) too (that's why I buy the ones I like around ~$50-80 for 100ml bottle online when i get the occasion - would never pay...
  55. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    Scam is definitely not the right word.

    Now if I tell you that what you call "creative marketing" consists in analyzing customer reaction, decision-making process and have found ways to influence...
  56. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    Agreed. What I call value at my stage of my frag journey, is creativity and how much I am "wowed" by the frag. I don;t care about the market value of the oils in there, since in a regular YSL frag...
  57. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    As I stated before, I think that scam is not the appropriate word here. That said, any company (in any field, not only perfumery) that is designed with a scope of capturing value (and subsequently...
  58. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    Exactly. Niche is a french word that (in this case) means "recess", like the small holes where church statues are usually placed (in old churches). And that's exactly what Creed admitted (not that...
  59. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    I tried 10+ De Nicolai frags when stopping by their shop in Paris. I can tell that they were all 9/10 in terms of ingredients quality and blend quality, but none wowed me, and only a couple met my...
  60. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Great! Waiting for both your feedbacks!

    Thank you
  61. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Added, thank you!
  62. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Added to the list! Thatsaid, could you please confirm that the vetiver is a strong note in that one? The reviews seem to be mixed in regard... I had the same hesitation when decided if listing...
  63. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Interesting! I don't manage to go below the regular 15% discounts, that results being ~$39 for a 50ml...Thank you for your reply!
  64. Re: How do you organize your perfumes and samples?

    For bottles, a simple shelf on the lower part of my wardrobe.

    For sample, I throw away the litte card, and only keep vials, that I store in cryoboxes, originally designed to store vials with bio...
  65. Re: Latest Guerlain L'Homme Ideal Flanker - L'Homme Ideal Cool!

    I already own Ideal Cologne, but would have definitely opted for Ideal Cool should I had tested both before blind buying. Not that Ideal Cologne is bad, but Ideal Cool is clearly a step up.

    $31...
  66. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Thank you, I appreciate!
  67. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Do you know where to buy this one?
  68. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Never heard about this one, and I couldn't find it in the database, not to buy. Is it a good one? Do you know if it's available to buy somewhere?
  69. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Added to the list, thank you!
  70. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    No ranking here, just a list :)

    Guerlain's and FM's are already listed, and Creed's is a unicorn
    Thanks for stopping by!
  71. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    It's noted, will remove! Thanks for the info.
  72. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    I was tailoring this list to be useful to help choosing frags to buy more than a WikiVetiver, but I will think about it, thanks for the suggestion!
  73. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Would you mind sharing it? Thank you in advance
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    Re: Worst Reputation

    Except for their high-end line (The Collection), I haven't tried a frag that I liked, and Boss has been one of the few exceptions in which I felt that a frag was really badly blended: that was Boss...
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    Re: Worst Reputation

    Two brands pop-up when I think bad:

    - Hugo Boss
    - Byredo (not bad per se, but really really really overpriced for what it is)
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    Re: Worst Reputation

    I'm going to make you lie ZC:
    - clone house: Nabeel Macho Man is better than TL imo (better projection, exact identical scent). Priced at $6 vs $300
    - automobile brands: Bentley for Men Absolute,...
  77. Re: Which fragrance do you have the most backup bottles of?

    None. I don't have enough of one life to finish a single bottle I own given the size of my collection, and constantly rotate between frags.
  78. Re: The new Frederic Malle fragrance: to be released in September 2019

    Got it, sorry I haven't read well!
  79. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    I added the Franck Olivier and the Beckham. I previously thought at Zileri's Viaggio d'Africa, but it doesn't fit the "currently available to buy and priced close to original retail price"...
  80. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Chopard's is already listed, and can still be found at reasonable prices on ebay (~$50 for 50ml)
    I added AC Bois Blonds to the list.

    For this list, I decided to include only fragrance that are...
  81. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Thank you, list updated!
  82. Re: The new Frederic Malle fragrance: to be released in September 2019

    To me it results that Barney's filed for bankrupcy, not that the stores are already closed. (Unless they find a buyer, that will happen at the end of October).
    Anyways, The Night was always...
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    Re: I want to like Memo but I canít

    I stopped by their Paris store recently, and tried a lot of them.

    I found the leather series really well blended and luxurious feeling, but not unique. And at such price points, I require...
  84. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    This one seems to be a star... will buy soon!
    Thanks
  85. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    No need to tell me, it's one of my favourites!
    Thanks!
  86. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    True! I agree, that vetiver is a dominant note in Elysium (but the regular version, not the parfum). Added to the list!

    No indeed, a lot of them are very well-known vetivers: my goal is to do a...
  87. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    It's discontinued, and I could only spot a single bottle selling on ebay for a resonable premium compared to the original price tag. Soon, it won't be eligible anymore to be on this list given the...
  88. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    I m ready to bet that if we take a panel of 100 average persons with tastes culturally defined as masculine, and tell them to test the $300 a pop whole line-up of Byredo, PdM and Creed, there may be...
  89. Re: La Collection des Essences by Elie Saab

    Rose, Gardenia, and Tuberose are definitely feminine.
    Ambre, Vetiver and Neroli are unisex (yes, even the vetiver)
    Santal leans masculine
    Oud is definitely masculine
    Never tried Amande Tonka, but...
  90. Re: NEW Dior Sauvage Parfum 2019 Official Discussion

    So... what are you going to do?
  91. Re: NEW Dior Sauvage Parfum 2019 Official Discussion

    [highly unapologetic, sarcastic and acidic comment deleted to stick to the forum rules... too easy on this thread]
  92. Re: NEW Dior Sauvage Parfum 2019 Official Discussion

    What about fact checking before spreading hoaxes? Google is your friend, man.
  93. Re: Vetiver fragrances inventory: under-the-radar

    Wait ...wait...wait.... I asked for:



    Since the 3 you listed are still decently priced on ebay (let's say less than twice the original price), they fit in the mold! Thanks for your contribution!
  94. Re: Any information yet on Christian Dior Dior Homme line changes if/when?

    Of course not. If there was, the discontinuation/reform panick threads wouldn't have any reason to be anymore :lolk:
  95. Re: Any information yet on Christian Dior Dior Homme line changes if/when?

    Correct. Like it is in 99% of the times when package changes.
  96. Re: Any information yet on Christian Dior Dior Homme line changes if/when?

    I suggest to stock up as soon as it's released, because I've heard that they are going to reformulate after a month... you don't want to miss the smoky batch, because the second batch will be more...
  97. Re: Any information yet on Christian Dior Dior Homme line changes if/when?

    Not at all, nor does Dior plan to discontinue it soon. They just stopped selling it in some countries, and one of these is the US.
    I suggest to fact check before spreading hoaxes.

    Same is valid...
  98. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    Totally my thoughts. MMM (like many others) is pretty good, just way overpriced. Like others, the impression and marketing image is niche, while being at designer level imo. (Or just a small step up...
  99. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    The word "scam" only appears in the title, and he never mentionned "legal definition" as far as Ive read. What the OP seems to be angry at and describes in his first post is deceptive marketing...
  100. Re: Are any niche companies basically a scam?

    Actually you pretty much summarized the process. These entrepreneurs are not interested by the final products, but just to found a cash-machine that would generate high returns in a short amount of...
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