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  1. Thread: Fig tree

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Fig tree

    You can also add a small amount of Ethyl Maltol to the Stemone-Gamma Octalactone mixture for a ripe fig note. For the musk, I agree with David. Try Tonalide, Galaxolide 50% IPM, Ethylene Brassylate,...
  2. Thread: Fig tree

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Fig tree

    Yes. Stemone and Gamma Octalactone. Combine them until you are satisfied. When combined, they will give you a very realistic impression of fig leaves.
  3. Re: Recreating Green, Watery, and Fruity notes using Essentials, Absolutes, and CO2's

    La Nuit will be tough without using the synthetics which power the fragrance, but you may get an idea of the fragrance. Focus on natural isolates and clean smelling essential oils. This is very...
  4. Re: Need ideas for Red Wine note in base of fragrance

    You can begin by creating a champagne accord and following up by making it more towards red wine. For the aldehydic sparkle, an accord of Bergamot and Aldehyde C-10 10% (10:1) then touches of...
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    L'Air Du Desert Marocain

    Upon further consideration, we have decided to release the L'Air Du Desert Marocain analysis to the website. The link is live. If you are not an insider you, unfortunately, will not be able to view...
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    Re: How do you chose your amber molecules?

    You must ask yourself why you are using the woody ambers in the first place. There must be a reason why you choose to use anything in perfumery. I personally would use Amber Ketal to add a powdery...
  7. Thread: Karanal source

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Karanal source

    Boye, sample it. You will get 15-30ml.
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    Re: My Gift To You (Cool Water formula)

    Cool Water contains Dynascone as well.
  9. Thread: Karanal source

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Karanal source

    It's effect can best be smelled in Acqua Di Gioia Eau De Toilette by Giorgio Armani at 0.03%. There are other woody ambers but Karanal is the most pronounced. Here is the link to sample it from...
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    Re: Aromachemical help

    You can also increase the heat of the coffee blend by using Habanolide and Guaiacwood Heart. These materials will give the scent more body, increase the sillage and longevity and increase the...
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    Re: Aromachemical help

    Yes, Vetiveryl Acetate can most define can be used to make Vetiver oil cleaner. Used extensively are a Iso E Super-Cedrol-Cedramber combo for cedarwood. Find an accord you would prefer for the scent....
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    Re: exalting beta damascenone

    I do not believe Damascenone needs to be exalted. That is one powerful molecule. On the other hand, try Givescone for extending and supporting Damascenone in your fragrance. You can also try Apritone...
  13. Thread: Ambrox DL

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Ambrox DL

    Yes Timon, my source is from Arcadi Boix Camps. He has been began working for Firmenich in 1975.
  14. Thread: Ambrox DL

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Ambrox DL

    Yes.
  15. Thread: Ambrox DL

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Ambrox DL

    Ambrox DL is 70% Cetalox 30% Firmenich captive Cachalox. Cetalox is well, Cetalox :). Cachalox is similar to the ambergris family, but more woody which of course gives Ambrox DL its woody profile.
  16. Re: Newbie - questions about alcohol vs oil+ citrus +export

    This is one of the greatest posts i've seen here haha. It was only up for like 10 hours. Comeback, Clare!
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    Re: Polysantol/Firsantol - use and experiences?

    They are brilliant molecules. If you have ever wondered what gives 212 Men its sensual, sexy sandalwood aroma, it is Firsantol at 3%, of course along with the heavy dose of Habanolide Mr. Morillas...
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    Re: Patchoulol in Clearwood

    It's around 30% Patchoulol. I found out from Arcadi Boix Camps.
  19. Re: Have you ever wanted to know the formula of your favorite fragrance?

    Yes, Paradisone is owned by Firmenich. They can allow other companies to use the molecule if they wish.
  20. Re: Have you ever wanted to know the formula of your favorite fragrance?

    Your welcome :). No, you will have to do your own research for the prices. The captive molecules don't list a price because they are not for sale. The manufacturing costs are expensive, therefore the...
  21. Re: Have you ever wanted to know the formula of your favorite fragrance?

    Yes, Aventus contains a special version of Hedione called Paradisone, a special, captive grade of Patchouli and others. The evidence for Patchouli and Paradisone can be found straight from the...
  22. Re: Have you ever wanted to know the formula of your favorite fragrance?

    Fortunately, Aventus has multiple captive molecules and is impossible to replicate :).

    The actual formula is also tremendously expensive, so those who would like to copy it have to cut corners to...
  23. Have you ever wanted to know the formula of your favorite fragrance?

    I have created a website which hosts group GC/MS analysis purchases. A GC/MS is a machine used in the fragrance industry to discover what ingredients and their percentage amounts in a fragrance. They...
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    Re: Wedding Fragrance

    I must sample this, Jeremiah! Would you mind?
  25. Re: Different effects in a mix of ISO E SUPER and TIMBERSILK

    Timbersilk - 55% Iso Gamma Super
    Sylvamber - 22% Iso Gamma Super
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    Re: DIY meetup in NYC?

    In.
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    Re: Benzyl alcohol replacer?

    It does not need replacing. You can use up to 27% of the formula in a 10% EDT and 13.5% in a 20% EDP. You must have misunderstood the IFRA's restriction. Every percentage you see is based off of the...
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    Re: Favorite musks to use with leather accord

    Muscenone, Exaltolide, Habanolide, Galaxolide, Helvetolide. Musk Ketone is the best musk for leathers in my opinion when mixed with a light patchouli. This is what helps to give Dolce and Gabbana's...
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    Re: Kiehl's Musk Sketch ideas?

    Do not forget about Shangralide as a possibility. It could hide snugly in that 92.8% Galaxolide.
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    Re: Blond Leather Accord

    For a nice leather handbag smell, play around with some Galaxolide, Suederal LT, Muscenone and a leathery smelling patchouli oil of your choice.
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    Evernyl in Cassis Base 345 B

    Does anyone else smell Evernyl in the drydown of Cassis Base 345 B?
  32. Thread: Jubilation XXV

    by BAGreat
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    Jubilation XXV

    What a surprising construction. This goes to show brand quality, the target market and bottle construction plays the largest role when setting a price for a fragrance.
    ...
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    Re: Laevo rose oxide

    Sample came in today. Lasted about 1 hour pure (!!!). Thorough disappointment. I do wonder how these substantivity times are gotten. This is why it is important to find top middle and basenotes for...
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    Re: Aventus: Why Does it Smell Like Pinesol???

    Citral which smells of Pinesol and Coranol which smells of cleaning products are both in Aventus.
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    Re: What exactly is 'Royal Pineapple' in Aventus?

    Manzanate, Allyl Heptanoate, Dynascone.
  36. Re: So the "melon note" in Millesime Imperial IS watermelon!

    In Millesime Imperial, there is Melonal, Alpha Damascone (The Green Apple smell) and Beta Damascone (The sweetness of a Watermelon with rosy aspects) mixed with other fresh aroma chemicals and citrus...
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    Re: Main oils in Paco Rabanne One Million?

    It cannot be properly made. It has unobtainable molecules, 0.18% Pomarose and around 6% Serenolide. The woody tingly smell in 1 Million is due to AmberKetal (Givaudan) It is an isomer of...
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    Re: Honey accord help

    Read this - https://www.facebook.com/263202847040070/photos/pb.263202847040070.-2207520000.1438703348./460015034025516/?type=3&theater

    You can also click to the left for additional posts on this...
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    Dynascone and Allyl Heptanoate

    Dynascone and Allyl Heptanoate are now available to us via Perfumer Supply House. These molecules are necessary for the reconstruction of Aventus and are difficult to source for those who are not...
  40. Re: Can Benzyl Acetate be used to build a pear aroma?

    Poached Pear:

    Mintonat 96%
    Alpha Damascone Pure 4%
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    Re: Arctander Perfume and Flavor Chemicals

    Just going to drop this off here...https://perfumertalk.com/topic/perfume-and-flavor-materials-of-natural-origin/

    Brandon Greatheart
    Administator of Perfumer Talk
  42. Thread: Vintage Bases

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Vintage Bases

    Arcadi Boix Camps is your guy. Contact him on Facebook. He is probably the most knowledgeable person on this subject that you can get in contact with easily. He can sell you fresh batches of the...
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    The Creed Aventus Analysis Is Now Available

    You must be a Perfumer Talk Insider to view, but it is only $4.99 per month. It is a very simple and well thought out formula. Here is the link to the database:...
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    Re: Hedione vs Hedione high cis

    No, but it contains around 20% Hedione and 10% Hedione HC.
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    Re: Hedione vs Hedione high cis

    Hedione High Cis most definitely has more diffusion than Hedione. Since it is too perceptible, it does not have the same effervescent sparkling effect as Hedione. It is used to boost Hedione in most...
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    Re: Living Jasmine Accord

    Milhaus, use Gamma Decalactone.
  47. Re: Why that musk? Ethylene Brassylate vs Galaxolide

    Can you recommend the musk or masks that would be well suited to an orris/violet fragrance?

    Ambrettolide (the most important musk for use in violet/iris fragrances) - To keep the creamy/fattiness...
  48. Re: Why that musk? Ethylene Brassylate vs Galaxolide

    Can someone tell me the main reason one might choose one over the other?

    It is what the scent calls for. You wouldn't want to use ethyl maltol if you are trying to make a light, crisp aquatic void...
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    Re: Vanilla Top Note Help

    Use Ultravanil diluted to 10% in Dipropylene Glycol. You may up to 0.10% of the final fragrance (diluted in alcohol) if you wish to sell.
  50. Thread: Vinyl smell ?

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Vinyl smell ?

    Dynascone.
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    Re: Out of this world lavender

    Lavender Wild from Eden Botanicals is very clean with a tea-like tonality, but there is an off note in the drydown. Lavender Maillete is hands down the best lavender they offer and the best lavender...
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    Re: What Material Causes the Soapy Aroma

    Benzyl Salicylate, Helvetolide and Ethylene Brassylate (especially when combined) always give a soapy, shampoo-like aroma to blends if they are not properly masked.
  53. Re: How to speed up the blending/curing process of a fragrance

    Yes, Telmarin. I have the same problems. There are two easy solutions to this. The first works best with solid, crystalline-like molecules such as Ambrox DL, Exaltolide, Vanilla CO2, etc. You can...
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    Re: What Do You Feel We Need As DIY Perfumer's?

    Thank you for your constructive criticism and wishes, mourningwould. This topic was written on my iPhone and it has autocorrected "Perfumer" to "Perfumer's". I am well aware of proper use of...
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    What Do You Feel We Need As DIY Perfumer's?

    It is my desire to see everyone have success in creating new indie/niche brands and even sooner create successful fragrance blends. We already have many great websites to buy high quality raw...
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    Re: Norlimbanol in oil?

    You can get a sense of what Z11 (Firmenich)/AmberKetal (Givaudan) does to a fragrance by smelling Rhinoceros by Zoologist ( I believe Z11 in this case). It can be smelled strongly in the base. It's...
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    Re: Recreate Tom Ford's Amber Absolute

    Talk to member deadidol. Here is what he had to say.


    "Ryan, I know that fragrance inside out and I can tell you that a big part of what makes it tick is Ebanol -- a sandalwood replacer. The...
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    Re: Anyone know a source for Givaudan Chocovan?

    Jean Claude Ellena's Chocolate - Isobutyl Phenylacetate + Vanillin
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    Re: Watery Green Base Notes...?

    I cannot say. Those who are ready to figure it out will.
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    Re: Watery Green Base Notes...?

    That moment when you realize what fragrance this advice was used for :).
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    Exclusive Materials Proposition

    I am creating a feasibility study and would like to know the demand for exclusive bases, most of which contain captive molecules. This company's minimum order price is $6000, but is willing to expand...
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    Re: GC/MS Analysis Hosting

    We will look into laboratories in other countries once the service takes off in the United States. There is only one post in the forum currently so there is not yet a need to source overseas. Once we...
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    GC/MS Analysis Hosting

    Hello everyone, I am hosting a group GC/MS analysis service. Have you thought about having one of your fragrances analyzed but didn't have the funds or know how to do it? Well, we can help. I will...
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    Re: Group buy for GC/MS

    To all those who are interested, my website is hosting group GC/MS analysis purchasing. You do not have to pay anything to use the service, but you do have to become a free member of the site. No,...
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    Re: A Message To Our Community

    Thank you bshell. It was always my intention to have free forums available whether you are a free member of the site or just viewing. I had not known they were not available for viewing. Thank you...
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    Re: A Message To Our Community

    Thank you, Poohdini.
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    Re: A Message To Our Community

    As far as I know, since a fragrance formula cannot be copyrighted, the should be no problems short of the company contacting me to remove their fragrance from the database. In which case I would...
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    Re: A Message To Our Community

    Yes Mumsy, but the same applies for the Yahoo Perfumery Groups as well. Both the groups and Basenotes have all of the information crammed on to one portion of the site. I wanted to create an entire...
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    A Message To Our Community

    Hello everyone, I believe we as perfumers need and deserve our own website to congregate and discuss perfumery. So I created www.perfumertalk.com.

    On this website, there is a forum with sections...
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    Re: Formula for a gourmand unisex perfume

    Here is a little fine tuning. https://m.facebook.com/263202847040070/photos/pb.263202847040070.-2207520000.1421725045./875453205815028/?type=1&source=42
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    Re: small sculpture made of Exaltolide

    If you do not have a hot plate, the next best thing is to heat the bottle of material in a pan on the stove. Make sure to unscrew the cap (you may rest it on top) to prevent any explosions.
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    Re: Perfumer help required - cloning

    What is the fragrance?
  73. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Alien is most definitely Ambroxan (laevo ambrox; (-) - Ambrox found in natural ambergris). Ambrox DL is different because it has 30% of captive (isomer) Cachalox (9-Epiambrox). This isomer is...
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    Re: Aroma of Christmas Trees

    This. http://www.edenbotanicals.com/fir-balsam-absolute.html
  75. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    That is exactly the point, Nizan. It is hidden very well. You get the projection (scent booster!) of (-) - Ambrox but not the smell because it is covered well. In this scent particularly, four...
  76. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Alien has 9.12% Cashmeran and 5.10% Ambroxan (pure (-)- Ambrox). Ambrox DL would have made the scent creamier, which I doubt would have made the scent better. Ambroxan's sharp contrast to the...
  77. Re: Oakmoss restrictions in 2015 and impact on Aventus

    Aventus never contained Oakmoss Absolute. Creed did have to remove the Lyral in the formula though. It is also very difficult to accurately replace.
  78. Thread: Warm Glow?

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Warm Glow?

    There was a certain coconut accord I found while reconstituting a pineapple that was the most shimmering, warm glowing bronze aroma I have ever smelled. It's smell was brilliant.

    Delta Octalactone...
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    The Final Thread On Water

    I have a few questions/statements.

    1. I am sure that distilled water in used in the production of professional fragrances.

    2. Why?

    3. At what amount is the water added in the final product?...
  80. Re: Contract manufacturers for fragrance concentrate?

    Give Kik a call.

    http://www.kikcorp.com/fragrance-manufacturers.html
  81. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    I am using a dark, heavy patchouli for this one. It fits the description much better than a cleaner patchouli.
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    Re: Custom Bottle Manufacturer In US

    Found this. If you scroll through the caps you will find the exact bottle used for "Kristiansand Kristiansand New York For Men"

    http://sgbpackaging.com/portfolio/fragrance-caps/
    ...
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    Custom Bottle Manufacturer In US

    If anyone has any information regarding this please let me know.
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    Re: buy analysis GC/MS

    I had the idea of having a GC/MS device purchased by a large number of us Basenoters to use by its members. I think it would be a fantastic idea but I have no idea how to use such a device. I would...
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    Naturals With Great Projection

    In my opinion, the only natural I have with amazing projection is Ylang Ylang Complete. A scent strip could fill a 100 square meter room easily. It is very big on the Cresol note, but in the drydown...
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    Re: Musk Ketone Replacer

    :-)
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    Re: Musk Ketone Replacer

    Ha, speaking of correcting mistakes, Romandolide is an Alicyclic or Linear musk. The best Macrocyclic musk to replace Musk Ketone is Nirvanolide. Since it is unobtainable, Muscenone is the next best...
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    Musk Ketone Replacer

    Does anyone know what is used in the formulation of Musk Ketone Replacer? Chris, I see you have some for sale. In your opinion , cost aside, if you were to replace Musk Ketone in a formula, would you...
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    Re: Question on Nepalva, Traseolide and Poivrol

    No knockoff, the actual amount. Traesolide is used at around 0.5% in Le Male along with Galaxolide, Tonalide, Celestolide and Phantolide. This accord accounts for 60%+ of its formula.
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    Re: is good sandalwood even a thing anymore?

    http://www.edenbotanicals.com/sandalwood-royal-hawaiian.html
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    Re: Mysore / Melozol Acetate

    Oh no Paul! Hopefully you will find a good use for it because you could have bought a much smaller quantity. Was it expensive? ...(Checks Vigon...) Oh. Still I hope it finds a good use. I too was...
  92. Thread: Muscenone

    by BAGreat
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    Muscenone

    Does anyone have a few grams I could purchase to play around with?
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    Re: Advice on a formula

    Nizan, here is my attempt at modernizing your formula. Let me know what you think.

    Base:
    Sandalwood Australian - 50
    Bacdanol - 100
    Sandalore - 25
    Javanol 10% - 50
    Iso E Super 250
    Cosmone 10...
  94. Thread: Vanilla bean

    by BAGreat
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    Re: Vanilla bean

    You are far better off using either Vanilla Absolute or CO2.
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    Un Jardin Sur Le Nil

    This is not the original but according to Chandler Burr, 98% in terms of molecular structure and 100% in terms of scent perceptibility. I am positive this will help many of you out here and give you...
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    Re: replacing rose ketones due to IFRA limits

    First ask yourself why you want an "all natural" perfume? Why are you limiting yourself to using only isolates, and extracted oils (absolutes etc.)? You have to realize that everything in the...
  97. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    In, for real this time. Davidoff Zino is a go for me.
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    Re: What The Hell Makes Joop! Homme So Powerful?

    Haha!
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    Re: What The Hell Makes Joop! Homme So Powerful?

    Thank you for this. The entire scent might have made Schiff bases in itself here and there over time too. Its quite a shame Lyral is going to be banned. Also now that you mention these ingredients,...
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    Re: What The Hell Makes Joop! Homme So Powerful?

    Very! It's still going strong hours later on the scent strip.
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