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  1. Re: Esterification Charts for reference - TERRRIFFIC!

    Here is the ESTER information in a little different format. I put it into a spreadsheet.
    Interesting ... thanks Paul.

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  2. Re: Esterification Charts for reference - TERRRIFFIC!

    I thought this was a fun chart from the slides:




    Chemical combinations of floral fragrances
  3. Re: Esterification Charts for reference - TERRRIFFIC!

    Very kind of you to share Nattaya Lourith's slides in PDF format.
    Thank you.
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    Re: Question about Royal Hawaiian Sandalwood

    Thanks Paul
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    Re: Question about Royal Hawaiian Sandalwood

    Just trying to get to the root of the original question? :D
    so... what gives that "bright and clean" note to sandalwood?
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    Aroma and Flavour Study

    Very interesting website
    http://odornetwork.com

    "This web site is an attempt to gather as many odoriferous molecules as possible, along with their percepts and physico-chemical properties and...
  7. Re: The art of Perfume vs. other arts: 5 Things I've Realized

    Thank you Darryl, I agree with your ideas, and thank you for sharing them. #4 is a little more esoteric, but I believe that energy exists. Reminds me of that beautiful book and movie by Laura...
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    Re: Papyrus Flower Fragrance

    Well done rickbr!! Now I want to smell it. LOL
  9. Re: Which formula composition software do you use?

    George, I agree that most of these items can be handled with a spreadsheet, and a simple interface would be ideal.
    I have created many spreadsheets in excel and love the program. However, the...
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    Papyrus Flower Fragrance

    Cypriol EO (Nagarmotha) is from Cyperus scariosus , extractedfrom the roots of Cyperus, a sedge plant (not to be confused with the Cypress tree). Woody, deep, with smoky notes of leather. Adds a...
  11. Re: Which formula composition software do you use?

    Here is the blog page where the link resides: http://pellwall-perfumes.blogspot.ca/2012/06/method-for-blending.html
    Here is the link to other resources on Chris's site:...
  12. Re: Technical Questions - Odor Treshold, Vapor Pressure

    Here is an interesting recent article on Vapour Pressure:
    http://www.perfumerflavorist.com/fragrance/research/Patent-Pick-Fragrance-Duration---a-Pressing-Issue-366255881.html
  13. Re: Which formula composition software do you use?

    Interesting idea Mumsy. In my opinion it is a simple formula sheet with the guts of a data base.

    Spread Sheet format
    I could type in an item, and the spreadsheet would fill in the name (and...
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    Re: red rose absolute

    Where did you obtain it from Mumsy? I would like to sample this.
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    Re: red rose absolute

    @Vivelafete: This was one of my biggest surprises when I started this perfumery journey: Rose Absolutes and Ottos do not smell like roses, as one might expect.

    I think Firmenich's Dorinia SA E...
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    Re: red rose absolute

    The Bulgarian abs. at Eden botanicals in the US is very good. The red and white rose otto/attar are outstanding.
  17. Re: Any ideas for creating a passion fruit note

    I recently purchased Firmenich's Passion Fruit Base from Susan at Creating Perfume. It is quite glorious.
    Christine also has it at Perfumer Supply House. Have a look at the MSDS and see what...
  18. Re: Which formula composition software do you use?

    Paul, 32 bit runs fine on 64 bit OS -Mac Pro and in Windows (on my boot drive). I don't understand what your point is? I was running PW's software the other day, and it runs great.
    I have tried...
  19. Re: Which formula composition software do you use?

    When we hit singularity, computers will be making us. LOL
  20. PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    I am very eager to receive the first PONK. Thank you mumsy for all your hard work and thought put into this project.
  21. Thread: The diy lab

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    Re: The diy lab

    WOW, thanks mumsy!! Like Paul I have enough bottles and need only the cap and dropper. I need to check the max length of dropper.
    I believe I require 18/400 tops. the 400 refers to the shorter cap...
  22. Thread: The diy lab

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    Re: The diy lab

    I think is is a very important point Paul. Whatever system , shelves, baskets, bottles, etc one uses... it has to be personal, based on the way you think about creation. I never thought about the...
  23. Thread: The diy lab

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    Re: The diy lab

    Yes, that is my experience so far Paul.... the minimum order is just too large in quantity or in $$.
    If you find a more reasonable min order let me know. Thanks
  24. Thread: The diy lab

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    Re: The diy lab

    What a simple effective idea! Thank you Jennifer.
  25. Thread: The diy lab

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    Re: The diy lab

    Thank you Jennifer.... I assume you are referring to my setup. :o) I put a lot of thought and work into it, after years of boxes, and shelves, etc.etc. See my previous post about cleaning. I believe...
  26. Thread: The diy lab

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    Re: The diy lab

    Glad you like the idea BlackVelvet. It came to me quite by accident... a relative had a whole box of new centrifuge vials that had no purpose.... so I repurposed them.... and they work perfectly. I...
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    Re: Question about Royal Hawaiian Sandalwood

    Your question got me thinking about the constituents of the other Sandalwoods. I had a look at all the Sandalwood analysis from the products offered by Eden and charted them so I could see the...
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    Re: Question about Royal Hawaiian Sandalwood

    Royal Hawaiian Sandalwood (Santalum paniculatum) is in my opinion THE outstanding sandalwood. It is gorgeous, deep, rich, woody, fresh and surpasses the Caledonia (Satalum austrocaledonicum) by a...
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    Re: Newbie presentation and question

    I think the "Camden girl" oil lasts longer because it is in oil. Just out of curiosity, why do you want any perfume to last longer than 24 hours?


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  30. Re: PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    Thanks Mumsy for making this happen. The website is easily understood and easy to navigate. Let the games begin! Pick-a-Ponk!
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    Re: Civettone and Muscone

    HA... I lucked out and got both Jamie.... AND it was a good read. Gotta love books.

    MUSK DEER
    (Moschus moschiferus L., Ungulata)
    Male Musk deer of the above species and also of other species (M....
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    Re: Civettone and Muscone

    Civet is a glandular secretion produced by both sexes of the civet cat (Viverridae).
    Two species are known: Civetticitis civetta, which inhabits Ethiopia, and Viverra zibetha, found in India and...
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    Re: Constructing a "Clean Cotton" accord

    I wanted to add something I just read about Lauders(1978) White Linen from Calkin, Jellinek Perfumery:Practice and Principles.

    "The place of vetiveryl acetate, as the main woody material of the...
  34. Listening to Scent by Jennifer Peace Rhind

    This sounds like a good book. Has anyone read it? any reviews?

    http://www.edenbotanicals.com/products/books/listening-to-scent.html

    "She explains the skills involved, from olfactory vocabulary,...
  35. PONK - A 'nose' club - Blind nose training amongst ourselves. Anyone interested?

    I would enjoy being part of PONK. Consider me in.
    Canada
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    Re: Clearwood™ Award

    My thoughts exactly David. When I first experienced Clearwood I was taken back. I felt that it was something special, and unique in my perfume materials. Your professional observation reassures me...
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    Mobile "Fragrance Family-Tree" App

    This is sort of fun. Not actually an app, but a mobile interface. Kind of clunky on my iPad and phone. Looks like a lot of info though.

    "The Symrise Genealogy of Fine Fragrances enters the digital...
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    Re: I need the help of a perfumist/"nose"

    Hello Anaribeiro,
    It it possible that this is the perfume? http://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Al-Rehab/Full-20119.html

    It appears to be available in roll-on. If not this one, perhaps it is the...
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    Re: Mousse de Saxe

    This thread has been a wonderful read. Thank you.
    (I do wonder what happened to PERFUMEKEV. 6 posts and no more... I was looking forward to further insights in DIY.)
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    Costus Ollifac vs Costus Synarome

    Ah.. the mystery is solved. Thank you for the elucidation. (It was probably only a mystery to me, LOL)
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    Re: Costus Ollifac vs Costus Synarome

    Sorry I can't help you with your question, but I have a related one.
    What is the definition of the word Ollifac? I cannot find it.
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    Clearwood™ Award

    I believe this is well deserved. To my lightly educated nose, Clearwood is an outstanding material, taking the already wonderful patchouli in a powerful and imaginative direction. I love this stuff!...
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    Re: Birch Tar Challenge

    You are brilliant. Thank you so much
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    Re: Cade vs Birch Tar - differences?

    ...and your point? LOL
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    Re: Birch Tar Challenge

    Thank you Pears,
    What is this wizardry you speak of! LOL
    I love chemistry but have such basic knowledge. When you say "wash" with SH do you literally mean add the diluted NaOH solution to the...
  46. Re: Substantivity, vapor pressure and correlation of volatility

    double post sorry
  47. Re: Substantivity, vapor pressure and correlation of volatility

    Perhaps it is obvious Ben3, but WHY do you want a parameter to judge the volatility?
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    Re: top or middle notes ?

    David, I just came across something on Chris's website. He is talking about starter kits, etc and mentions : "Melonal is a very distinctive melon / cucumber, relatively short-lived and extremely...
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    Re: Birch Tar Challenge

    I really appreciate all the ideas. Thank you
  50. Thread: Vetiver Java

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    Re: Vetiver Java

    Let me know what you think of it, if you decide to purchase.
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    Re: DIY perfume kit Christmas present

    I just came across this website, and remembered your question bshell
    http://www.perfumelab.com/shop/products.html
  52. Thread: Nebulone

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    Re: Nebulone

    I came across a reference for it in Scent and Chemistry. I had not heard of it and it seemed obscure. IS there a "rule" that would indicate when a captive become available? what is common in the...
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    Re: Birch Tar Challenge

    You can purchase it now. http://perfumersupplyhouse.com/product/birch-tar-oil-rectified/
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    Re: Birch Tar Challenge

    Great idea Jamie! Castoreum. May very well provide nice support to the Birch Tar and bring a deeper, complex feel to the composition. I will also try your vetiveryl idea... I have plenty at hand. And...
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    Re: Birch Tar Challenge

    The Iris is a lovely idea Cacio. I will have another smell of my Cuir de Russie sample for ideas. Thanks for your thoughts.
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    Birch Tar Question

    I am looking for some thoughts and ideas on a new fragrance composition. Complete syncronicity, I received the Rectified Birch Tar sample from Christine (THANK YOU!) one day before I received a...
  57. Thread: Nebulone

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    Re: Nebulone

    I did not realise it was a captive. Thank you
    How could I have found out it was a captive?
  58. Thread: Vetiver Java

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    Re: Vetiver Java

    Jamie, have you ever ordered from Christopher and Suzanne at White Lotus Aromatics?
    All that I have received from them has been very high quality. They have a variety of Vetivers
    ...
  59. Re: Need help with Perfume math when making my own.

    OK, I have a few other questions. So that we are absolutley clear,
    You are making perfume OIL for 200x1ml vials. So you want a total product amount of 200ml.... correct?
    What are you using for...
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    Re: Glass bottle with dropper

    I agree Milhaus I'm looking for a silicone dropper for my bottles. I have used rubber and it has disintegrated and affected the materials. If you ever find a good silicone dropper supplier let me...
  61. Re: First results out from IFEAT/RIFM project on safety of essential oils

    Thanks for the clarification David.
    Contact allergy/Photosensitivity issues I see with Musk Ambrette. So THAT is the BRUT musk.
    I was mistaking Ambrette also for Musk Ketone and the Xylene...
  62. Re: First results out from IFEAT/RIFM project on safety of essential oils

    I thought you meant Ambrette seed Jamie. No?
    What is the Musk Ambrette you refer to? CAS#?
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    Re: top or middle notes ?

    Thanks David, The "somewhat" arbitrariness of this classification has always made me pause. It helps to understand what someone with real experience thinks about this.Your observation about essential...
  64. Thread: Sleepless

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    Re: Sleepless

    Bravo! Success smells sweet... LOL
  65. Re: Cologne made entirely from Aroma Chemicals?

    Good question Burke! Thank you
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/415003-Can-I-create-a-fragrance-entirely-from-Aroma-Molecules-instead-of-fragrance-oils
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    top or middle notes ?

    David how long do you feel a top note should last on the strip to be classified as such? And the range of a mid note?
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    top or middle notes ?

    I have found it useful to sub-classify into aroma families. (wood, floral, musk, etc. ) However, I do believe that alphabetical is the way to go. I am reminded that GIP had materials in alphabetical...
  68. Thread: Nebulone

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    Nebulone

    Any ideas on where I can find Nebulone® IFF?
    According to Scent and Chemistry it is a polycyclic musk used in "Lovely" (SJP 2005), "Tom Ford for Men" 2007@ 2.7% and "Miracle Forever" (Lancome 2006 @...
  69. Re: Need help with Perfume math when making my own.

    LOL, I just realised that the original post was from 2013!!!

    Ok, Lovete81...what help do you need. Give the specifics of what you are trying to do.
  70. Re: Need help with Perfume math when making my own.

    Your math is correct except for the alcohol.
    You should have calculated 60% for your alcohol, not 50%.

    SO...you will have:
    3ml of Tubersose
    1.8 ml of Vanilla
    1.2ml of Magnolia
    for a total...
  71. Re: Can I create a fragrance entirely from Aroma Molecules instead of fragrance oils?

    Yes, you can make a perfume without using essential oils. Go to this website and you will find simple formulas for creating a perfume. https://sites.google.com/site/perfumerecipes/home

    Jeroen...
  72. Can I create a fragrance entirely from Aroma Molecules instead of fragrance o...

    Absolutely, that IS the way it is done. Basically, Aroma molecules and essential oils. Fragrance oil are not really used for perfume.
  73. Re: First results out from IFEAT/RIFM project on safety of essential oils

    I have not seen a list of the 200, but I would agree Jamie... I hope those are both on the list.
  74. First results out from IFEAT/RIFM project on safety of essential oils

    Over the last year, IFEAT has been working with the Research Institute for Fragrance Materials (RIFM) on evaluating the safety of essential oils. As highlighted in the April 2015 issue of IFEATWORLD,...
  75. Re: Top indispensable natural oils in your organ

    Rose and sandalwood
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    Canadian Perfumers

    (I hope I am not stepping on any Bassnote policy toes with this post.)
    I would simply like to bring attention to two Canadian perfumers who both studied at the Grasse Institute of Perfumery and are...
  77. Thread: Enquiry

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    Re: Enquiry

    duplicate
  78. Thread: Enquiry

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    Re: Enquiry

    If it is a question, and I believe it is, you need to put a question mark (?) at the end of the sentence.

    Your question is: Can I make some of the Patchouli oil notes be at the top and bottom? ...
  79. Thread: Thyme AC?

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    Re: Thyme AC?

    The Glissando... David, that is a wonderful poetic image of an EO drydown.
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    Re: Best cedar - men

    I just came across this nice little blog about cedars from Ayala

    http://ayala-moriel-parfums.myshopify.com/blogs/smellyblog/64074179-arbor-vitae-trees-of-life-contest
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    Re: Best cedar - men

    Pears is quite right. Western is lovely as well, and all are really quite affordable. I have not had the pleasure of smelling Hiba (Japanese), so that has been added to my list (which is...
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    Re: Best cedar - men

    In my opinion Virginia is the charactaristic smell of pencils. I find Atlas to be a "creamy" cedar.... no pencil reference.
    I am sorry I can't give you a favourite.. it depends on the use. What are...
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    Re: Constructing a "Clean Cotton" accord

    Give Aldehyde C-12 Lauric and/or Aldehyde C-10 a try. 2:1
    I would also add a bit of linalool... for me it is quite cotton fresh.
    Also a small amount of a musk...like Velvione

    From Glen O....
  84. Fragrances made from microbes and we're convinced they're the future of the industry

    We sampled fragrances made from microbes and we're convinced they're the future of the industry....

    http://www.businessinsider.com/we-tried-perfume-made-from-microbes-2015-10
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    Perfumer hire for South Africa

    Is this appropriate to post here??

    This came my way and may be of interest to someone in the forum:
    The Fragrance industry is looking for a Perfumer for a top 10 flavour and fragrance house in...
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    Re: Perfume Sensitivity

    A couple more thoughts from the Canadian Medical Association Journal as I continue to learn about this issue.

    For :...
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    Re: Black Tea Accord

    Thank you so much for this. I really enjoyed the accord, and I think it is quite useable.
    I ultimately reduced the amount of indole in the formula... personal preference.

    I have also created an...
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    Re: Perfume Sensitivity

    I am inclined to agree with you David on the dubious data online about this syndrome. All sources seem to go back to the document penned by Willam Walsh, Ph.D.This concept seems to be operating on...
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    Re: Opoponax - how do I process this?

    Jamie this is a completely different classification from the plant I know as Opoponax.
    Opopanax chironium is a herb.
    I have only known Opoponax referring to the Commiphora Erythraea in the...
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    Re: Perfume Sensitivity

    Let me know if you find any new information, it has piqued my curiosity.
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    Perfume Sensitivity

    Workplace perfume sensitivity issues are becoming more and more prevalent in Canada and more and more policies are being put in place to create scent free environments. As a student perfumer I of...
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    Re: IFF commercially launches Amber Xtreme

    Makes perfect sense Chris. Thanks for your thought on this.
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    Re: IFF commercially launches Amber Xtreme

    Thank you Chris, that really helps.
    So, although there is one molecular formula, C16 H26 O in this case, the singular substance (called Iso E) can be made of a collection of isomers of that...
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    Re: IFF commercially launches Amber Xtreme

    A bit of confusion on my part perhaps. My understanding is that Timbersilk is Patchouli Ethanone which is also IsoE. (Formula:C16 H26 O )
    I thought that this aroma molecule was singular and not a...
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    Re: Photos of your Perfume Organ - Just for Fun!

    It is wonderful to see how everyone handles the setup so differently. Thanks for asking Christine.

    There was a previous thread where I posted my setup information and photos and explains the...
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    Specially Denatured Alcohol Usage Chart

    I came across this and thought it may be of interest to those purchasing perfumer's alcohol. The SDA number tell you what additives are in your alcohol....
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    Re: Ethanol in Canada?

    Hello maxxblayze,
    I purchase perfumer alcohol from Saffire Blue http://www.saffireblue.ca/shop/perfumery/perfumery-alcohol
    or purchase EverClear at the local Liquor Store (much more expensive). ...
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    Re: My Perfume Lab Thus Far

    That is a beautiful cabinet FollyFlick. So pleasing to look at and also extremely useful for the materials.
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    Re: My Perfume Lab Thus Far

    Nicely done jfrater. A nice clean and organized layout. Good working surface. All within easy reach.
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    Poll: Re: The Future of ParfumPro

    Previous version was 3.6 as noted in the previous attachments.
    I installed 3.3 , and also got errors. The program would not run.
    See attachements.
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