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  1. Re: Help in choosing synthetic raw materials

    Maybe it would have been better to have asked this question before your ordered way too much for a beginner. There is a Sticky at the top of the page, which lists the 100 most useful chemicals for...
  2. Re: Essential oils for sales in HCMC, Vietnam.

    Tulip Essential Oil? Which Tulips smell? Lily Essential Oil? Never seen that before. Amazing company.
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    Re: Givaudan Question

    Demonstration formulae are clever; they have to show the chemical for sale at its best. I have spent many hours doing similar, for the company I used to work for (for whom I used to work?) One of...
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    Re: Natural v. Synthetic Men's Scents

    How about Good vs. Bad? That's all that matters.
  5. Re: Please rank what is most important - smell, name, house, bottle, sex, performance, price

    Smell and price; all else is irrelevant.
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    Re: Givaudan Question

    Givaudan, along with the other major Fragrance houses, also tries to sell Aromachemicals. It is often necessary to show potential customers of these chemicals (i.e. Perfumers) how to use them. ...
  7. Re: QuiVí question on blending and making accords

    There seems to be a misconception amongst many that there is a distinct and clear division between Top, Middle and Base note materials. There isn't. Every ingredient used in Perfumery evaporates,...
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    Re: Green Tea Accord

    I see that Givaudan offers Green Tea Givco. Maybe there was room for only one Tea base when they merged.
  9. Thread: Off-Topic

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    Sticky: Re: Off-Topic

    With Brazilian Marching Powder; it's easier.
  10. Thread: Off-Topic

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    Edie, the Chicken Lady; OY!
  11. Re: Assist me with remembering the fragrance that had a "Rotten Garbage/Trash" accord.

    Grow up.
  12. Poll: Re: Are you a fan of fragrances that have a soapy scent?

    Please explain, "a soapy scent".
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    Re: Vanill mint recipes?

    I have always thought that Peppermint oil has a Chocolate note. Vanilla and chocolate, obviously. Why not try all three together? Also I second the advice of mumsy; set yourself a challenge and...
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    Re: Green Tea Accord

    What a pity, it was a lovely accord. Wonder if Giv still uses the captive.
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    Re: Bleaching a fragrance?

    I would have hoped that before anything is used in a compound it is smelled. If one is attempting to substitute one item for another, obviously they should be compared first.
  16. Thread: Off-Topic

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    Sticky: Re: Off-Topic

    Sounds like he has Hollywood flu.
  17. Re: Anyone not bothered by or open to reformulations?

    If you don't notice the reformulation, of course it doesn't matter; if you do, it does.
  18. Re: Any ideas on how to do/learn (smallish) scale CO2 etc extractions? - wandering post

    Can I point out a couple of mistakes in the original post? Jasmin Absolute is not the same as Jasmin CO2 extract; one is the product of solvent extraction, the other the product of a certain type...
  19. Re: Unpleasant lavandin - 'spoilt' EO or trick of the mind?

    When did I do that? I have never mentioned Garlic as applied to the top note of Lavender. I may have said that freshly distilled oil may have a strange note, which will disappear over time. ...
  20. Re: DPG + Fragrance Oil to Make Body Perfume

    DPG is perfectly safe in all applications and is one of the most common solvents used in Perfumery. However, it does have a few drawbacks, one of which is solubility. If you wish to dilute your...
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    Re: Self-proclaimed perfumers

    Please remember that most Perfumers work for a Fragrance house that supplies various clients. There is only a minority of Perfumers who work for themselves. Many clients prefer to pretend that...
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    Re: starter kit for absolute beginners

    You should use whatever is necessary to get the result you want.
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    Re: Self-proclaimed perfumers

    Someone who has the skill and experience to create a fragrance. A trainee is someone who is learning to do this (and I guess that makes us all trainees as you never stop learning). I would regard...
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    Re: Bleaching a fragrance?

    I'm afraid I don't know of any suppliers that sell decolourised oils, only that some do! You could try Hermitage, or Biolandes, Robertet, the Good Scents company, Charabot or Maine. Some will...
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    Re: Bleaching a fragrance?

    Depends what is causing the strong colour in the first place. There are producers of Essential Oils who sell discoloured versions. If the strong colour is in fact discolouration caused y a...
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    Re: Benzoin Siam

    Benzoin Oliffac is made by IFF, and is a mixture of naturals and synthetics; an attempt to duplicate the smell of Benzoin. To me it is much sweeter, with an Ethyl Vanillin ice-cream note.
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    Re: Benzoin Siam

    Pure Benzoin, in my experience is as solid as Oakmoss abs.; which is very solid. You used to be able to buy Benzoin resinoid, which was a 50.0% solution of Benzoin in Benzyl Benzoate; that was...
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    Re: Your top 10 perfumery raw materials

    Smells like cat's pee. Yes, I do love Chypres.

    Am ashamed that I chose nearly all Naturals, and me fighting for the synthetics!
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    Re: Self-proclaimed perfumers

    You have to learn how to do it. Trainee Perfumer, Painter, Writer, trainee whatever. I think all trainees deserve to be called by their discipline, and with Perfumery there are Trainee Perfumers,...
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    Re: Your top 10 perfumery raw materials

    My favourite 10 Perfumery Raw Materials. Hedione, Ambroxan, Tonquitone, Galbanum Oil, Jasmin Abs, Ylang Oil, Oakmoss Abs, Labdanum Abs, Patchouli Oil, Black Current Buds abs. Oh, that's 10...
  31. Re: 9 aroma chemicals to try???? Please help

    Nine basic Aromachemicals found in just about every fragrance going.

    Hedione, Benzyl Acetate, Linalol, Phenyl Ethyl Alcohol, Geraniol, Citronelol, Methyl Ionone, Iso E Super, Aldehyde C14
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    Re: Self-proclaimed perfumers

    Julian, I think you may have slightly misunderstood the article you read. The various Perfumery Societies don't want to restrict the number of Perfumers, far from it; they wish to encourage more. ...
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    Re: Green Tea Accord

    There is also a speciality base called Tea Shop which used to be made by Quest and now is made by Givaudan. It contains a captive. It may be available in small amounts, but I don't know. Very...
  34. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    When I was working I never used Nizan's method. I had a vague idea of the structure of the whole fragrance, was aware what notes I wanted, knew which ingredients were Top, Middle and Base, and so...
  35. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    !!!!!!!!
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    Re: Beeswax absolute

    Old churches usually smell more of Olibanum than Beeswax, as not all churches burn Beeswax candles.
  37. Re: Seeking Advice on an herbal rose accord with a leather/Amber base (animalics)

    The only way to learn is by doing it. Try an experiment. Make up your Rose base, and divide it into three parts ( actually make that four). To one part add a small amount of the civet base you...
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    Re: The Final Thread On Water

    Water is added in an attempt to counteract the supposedly drying effect of strong alcohol. The amount added ( and it should only be a percent or two) depends on what else is in the formula. I,...
  39. Poll: Re: Interested in knowing everybodys AGE and SEXUAL ORIENTATION

    Mind your own damn business.
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    Re: Which fragrance is better?

    Which do you prefer? Smell them and chose the one you like the most. That one, for you, is the best.
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    Re: Suggestion on accord!

    You really need to know how to walk before you can run, or fly. I think that the most important lesson for a beginner to learn is, to know your ingredients. Every time you get a new material, you...
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    Re: Rosewood source or substitute

    I have used Ho Wood oil as a replacement for Rosewood on any number of occasions. If you wish to, ignore this advice; that is up to you.
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    Re: Mysterious gift in mail?

    Be careful; they are out to get you.
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    Re: Rosewood source or substitute

    You could try Ho oil, very similar to Rosewood as the major component is Linalol. Cedarwood and Geranium contain little, if any Linalol.
  45. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    To measure a Flash Point accurately, you need a Flash Point machine. Of course, if you don't have one you cannot do this.
  46. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    There is a very simple way to measures the Flash Point of a mixture, you measure its Flash Point. When it "flashes", whatever flashes first; that's the Flash Point.
  47. Re: Castoreum Absolute Tincture Via creatingperfume.com

    In my experience Castoreum does not smell of Acetophenone. I really don't see the point of removing phenols from Birch tar; Birch tar, like Coal tar, is all about Phenols.
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    Re: Suggestion on accord!

    Dip each material you wish to use in your composition. Smell and note how long each ingredient lasts on the smelling stip. Smell until you cannot smell anything, or until two weeks have passed. ...
  49. Re: Castoreum Abdolute Tincture Via creatingperfume.com

    Castoreum is soluble in IPM (also Benzyl Benzoate). Try 50:50, to get a solution that is easier to use. I think Castoreum works really well in Leathers, and Jasmins. Actually a touch in any...
  50. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Patchouli oil does indeed age and mature. Often the "still note" will disappear over time. 70s Patchouli smells fantastic, I have some too.

    I always thought that Patchouli heart (high...
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    Re: Hedione effects

    It is perfectly possible to modify an existing fragrance in any way you want; this happens all the time. To cheapen it, to modify for IFRA regs etc. etc.

    What happens if a fragrance has been...
  52. Thread: Speed

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    Re: Speed

    I have just spent a considerable amount of time trying to log on to Basenotes. As far as I am aware there has been no improvement whatsoever.
  53. Re: Your Exaltolide may not be Exaltolide... really.

    It is very difficult for beginners to recognise if an ingredient is of good quality or not. I'm not sure how to get around this problem, other than making sure that the first sample you buy is from...
  54. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    If your Vanillin is so old it has discoloured to the extent that it is black, I would throw it away with extreme prejudice. I doubt if molecular distilled Patchouli would have an "ash" note, and...
  55. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Poor quality Patchouli often has a "lamb fat" note, which is undesirable. Patchouli that is freshly distilled has a "still note" which smells a bit like ash, also not desirable. Whenever there is...
  56. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    You are joking, I hope. Your Vanillin is black? And you wonder if you should change it?
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    Re: How to Make Marijuana Perfume

    Oh for Christ's sake, enough already! Moderator, you said you were going to lock this tread, why haven't you?

    Please no more on this tedious subject.
  58. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    It is a mistake simply to judge Hedione by its smell. It is what it does in a fragrance that is important,
  59. Thread: Speed

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    Re: Speed

    Slow, slow, slow. Everything is slow. How long is this going got go on?
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    Re: Carrier oil to fragrance ratio?

    Depends how soluble your fragrance is in Coconut Oil. You won't know until you try.
  61. Re: Smelly game....... then smelly swaps (For after the blind sniff game)

    Please, whatever I write is my own opinion; it is not holy writ. You can take it on board, or ignore it; up to you. From my own experience, HCA and Hedione, have nothing in common. The effect...
  62. Re: Legitimacy of different frags for different seasons

    So, as usual, most comments are completely ignored. Oh, the arrogance.
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    Re: You're Greatest Citrus Fragrance

    "You are greatest Citrus fragrance"; is meaningless. If you mean "Your greatest Citrus Fragrance", then write it.
  64. Re: Legitimacy of different frags for different seasons

    The colder it is the less able you are to smell, so maybe the colder the temperature, the stronger the fragrance. Similarly, the drier the air, the less able to smell; so….?
  65. Sticky: Re: Welcome new-at-DIY-fragrance members! Read this first

    I agree with Irina, indeed a great tip. May I just add one tiny comment? Before you can think about why you are using a specific ingredient, you have to know as much about it as possible. ...
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    Re: Variability of Birch tar oil?

    Crude oil varies enormously; rectified less so ( well it should). Surely the whole point of Birch Tar is the smoky, meaty note. If you want something else try para Cresol, or Chinese Cedarwood.
  67. Re: Newbie question about order of scent addition to mixture

    In my experience it doesn't matter at all; no doubt others will disagree. When I was compounding for myself (one of the best ways to learn) I used to add all the solids first, then the solvent or...
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    Re: Extending Natural Perfumes

    Lemongrass quality can try enormously, from so-so to ghastly. Have you thought of using some Verbena? For mosquito repellency, Citronella oil is widely used, as is Tea Tree oil; although neither...
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    Re: Extending Natural Perfumes

    May I just add a couple of suggestions in addition to the excellent remarks of flagellum (I agree with everything he says). Try some Lavender absolute, to increase the longevity. Some Elemi oil,...
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    Re: Naturals With Great Projection

    The following are all very strong, however they may not be considered pleasant. Galbanum oil, Buchu Abs, Angelica Root Oil, Fenugreek abs, Lovage Root Oil, Black Current Buds Abs, Asafoetida abs,...
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    Re: Extending Natural Perfumes

    Also, lebowski, do you wish to stay "all natural" or are you happy to use synthetics? To find something suitable that will extend the life of a fragrance it really is necessary to know a little bit...
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    Re: Powdery effect

    Powdery is a subjective term, and everything I suggested would give that effect; or so the majority of people smelling them would think. As you don't agree, but have a fixed idea in your head of...
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    Re: Powdery effect

    Nitromusks, some Macrocyclic musks, Methyl Ionone, Ionone, Oakmoss, Vetiver, Patchouli, Heliotropin. Labdanum? Rosone. Benzyl Salicylate. Amyl Salicylate.
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    Re: How to Make Marijuana Perfume

    And it doesn't have anything to do with Perfumery; the purpose of this site.
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    Re: How to Make Marijuana Perfume

    Maybe there is some confusion between a Fragrance and a Medicine. Let me clarify. A Perfume, or Fragrance is something that has an odour, and can be detected by smell. It consists of a mixture...
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    Re: How to Make Marijuana Perfume

    If you are going to give information on this site, at least try to get it right. Your definition of a Concrete is WRONG. A concrete is produced by solvent extraction of source material, using a...
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    Re: Habit Rouge edt sillage/projection?

    The Habit Rouge I have is at least 15 years old ( maybe more, my memory is going!!); very strong, very long lasting, very projecting.
  78. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    I like to think of the effect of Base notes in the same way as the effect of a base coat of paint. Some paints are transparent, some are opaque. Put a layer of opaque colour first, then over it...
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    Re: Hexyl Cinnamaldehyde

    Hexyl Cinnamic Aldehyde (HCA) has been around for much longer than Hedione. When Hedione was first introduced (by Firmenich, who had used it long before they started selling it) many Perfumers were...
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    Re: Vetiver Beauty Pageants...

    Yawn.
  81. Thread: Speed

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    Re: Speed

    I am still having many problems with the speed and response; can you get it fixed, please.
  82. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Basnotes is having a little fit; double post.
  83. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    It is entirely possible to smell a Base note ( an ingredient that lasts a long time on the smelling strip) from the very opening of a fragrance. Do not think that the progression of a fragrance is...
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    Re: Onion and/or garlic

    As Onion Oil isn't a single chemical (it's an oil) it is impossible to say. There are a whole range of Sulphur containing chemicals in Onion Oil. From experience it is many a Top/Middle note.
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    Re: Extending Natural Perfumes

    As you have given no indication of what is in your fragrance, I don't think it is possible to answer your question. Do you want to add more of the major chemicals found in the oils you are using,...
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    Re: Suggestions for new games

    So, Nizan, you have finished playing with Zino? Maybe it is better to finish one project before beginning another.
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    Re: Musk Ketone Replacer

    I don't like this culture of being afraid to point out when someone has made a mistake. I appreciate it when someone does this to me. This DIY forum is about learning together, and sharing our...
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    Re: Musk Ketone Replacer

    You learn by your mistakes. It has never struck me that mumsy is afraid of anything.
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    Re: help me to start

    Major chemicals found in Jasmin; Benzyl Acetate, Linalol, Phenyl Ethyl Alcohol, Geraniol, Geranyl Acetate, Indole, cis Jasmone. Ylang oil would be useful, as would Hexyl Cinnamic Aldehyde and, Amyl...
  90. Re: diluting in water for testing a blend?

    We used to do it when testing the quality of PEA and Hydroxycitronellal (both fairly water soluble). As the ingredients dissolved in water, the contaminants became more obvious.
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    Re: How can your perfume last longer

    Increasing Base notes, will increase the longevity of any fragrance. The downside to this is that some diffusion may be lost. The secrete is to balance your fragrance correctly.
  92. Re: How to create a perfume with greater sillage (diffusion) effect?

    Hedione will often enhance the silage.
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    Re: Keeping notes on materials

    No never saw Nick Drake. Back to the subject eh?
  94. Re: diluting in water for testing a blend?

    I can think of two ingredients that are water soluble; Phenyl Ethyl Alcohol and Hydroxycitronellal. Nothing else is water soluble. If you must avoid using ethanol ( and I cannot see why) use...
  95. Re: Question on Nepalva, Traseolide and Poivrol

    Musks are often difficult to smell. Whenever I give an opinion, it is my opinion only; feel free to disagree. For me Musk Ketone is much stronger than Ambrettex.
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    Re: Ratio and DPG problems

    If you want to make a very long lasting fragrance, you should increase the amount of Base notes. However, using a lot of low volatile materials, often has a dampening effect on the whole fragrance....
  97. Re: Question on Nepalva, Traseolide and Poivrol

    You say you have not smelled Musk Ambrette; I have, and tell you that it smells similar to Musk Ketone. Ambrettex does not smell like Musk Ketone, nor Musk Ambrette, but does smell like...
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    Re: Ratio and DPG problems

    Firstly,welcome to Basenotes, I hope we will be able to help.

    OK, let's start.

    There are no hard and fast rules as to how you divide a perfume into Top, Middle and Base. It all depends on how...
  99. Re: Question on Nepalva, Traseolide and Poivrol

    Versalide was banned in the late 1970s, as I wrote above. I think it is always better to smell and make your own description before finding out what the "official" description is. That way, you...
  100. Re: Question on Nepalva, Traseolide and Poivrol

    It is highly unlikely that you have ever smelled Versalide as it was banned in the late 1970s. Therefore it is not necessary to compare Neplava with it. Personally I don't think Nepalva smells...
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