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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Rosie Adored Livia's Idealistic Values

    FANNS
  2. Re: Marine, ozonic floral accord - suggestions?

    You seem to want to know the rules ("how much of this do I add, how much of that?")' there are no rules. It really depends on what else is in your fragrance, and how you want your fragrance to go. ...
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    I look forward to receiving your fragrance. Looks like you are first to finish.
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    Re: Linalool Ethyl (Z) & (E) CAS#

    If you Google these two CAS numbers it tells you that they are two isomers of Ethyl Linalol.
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    Re: Becoming keen on smells

    It takes tim and dedication to train your nose, and smelling a complex fragrance is probably not the best place to start. However, I realise that it is difficult for many to get hold of the...
  6. Re: PONK module 5 - odour descriptions here (spoiler alert past post 1)

    All I can add is that at least one of the ingredients in this set is notoriously difficult to evaluate, as it tires the nose very quickly. Keep on coming back to the strips you cannot at first...
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    "Oh Crumbs!" Exclaimed Andrea, Negatively

    BOULA
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Deliberation Allowed Vera Individual Decision

    CALIF
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    Re: The most disgusting, repulsive fragrances:

    Feu d'Issey; the hot milk note made me gag. The latest Paris flanker; tooth rotting sweet raspberry. The original Kouros; cat shit. Kingdom; a good fragrance spoiled by a Cumin overdose.
  10. Re: Are There Any Good Fragrance Commercials?

    I used to love the Obsession ads (Ahh, the smell of it) and the cheesy/sexy photographs. Love the camp Pierre et Giles inspired Le Male ads too. I used to wear Obsession for Men ( before I...
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Modesty Overcame Ernestine, Selecting Twinkies

    SHAME
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Understandably, Orestes Increased Erica's Anger

    BLAMB
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    Re: Best inexpensive Fixatives?

    I never thought of DPG as a fixative, it is fairly volatile.
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    The original Ambre 83 contained, I think, Musk Xylene. The most recent version probably will not.
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Troy Outwitting Tony Overwhelmed Trixie

    GOSCH
  16. Re: Differences between Fructone and Fructone B

    Chemically very similar; I would guess that it terms of stability and volatility there is not much between them. They are both acetals using Ethyl Acetoacetate and a Glycol. Fructone uses...
  17. Re: Working on a Coca-Cola accord. Give some help?

    I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Why are you trying to squeeze Perfumery into a mathematical graph?
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Benny And Nancy Needed Danny

    TROIS
  19. Re: Please help, Non alcoholic Deodorant formulation.

    There may well be a Basenotes equivalent for Cosmetic Scientists; if there is it maybe better to look there.
  20. Re: ex cologne lover, stopped buying, need help making

    There is no guarantee that a Fragrance Oil will be all natural; indeed it is highly likely that it will not. A Fragrance Oil is, basically, a cheap, simple fragrance composed to smell like...
  21. Re: Working on a Coca-Cola accord. Give some help?

    The materials we use in Perfumery are able to evaporate, that is how we get to smell them. They can turn from a liquid (or solid) into a vapour. By doing this they exert a pressure, called Vapour...
  22. Re: Working on a Coca-Cola accord. Give some help?

    it is definitely the vapour pressure (top, middle and base notes).
  23. Re: Working on a Coca-Cola accord. Give some help?

    Major components (over 50.0%) Linalol and Linalyl AcetateI. Much cheaper than Lavender. In proper, commercial Perfumery, that is a big deal.
  24. Re: Working on a Coca-Cola accord. Give some help?

    Simply to extend and therefore cheapen any Lavender that may be present. Or Bergamot or Clary Sage, or any other Essential oil whose main components are Linalol and Linalyl Acetate. As you are...
  25. Thread: T K Maxx

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    Re: T K Maxx

    Is this a good thing?
  26. Re: Perfume Names Terminology " Monsieur "

    If Danny Dyer ever launched a fragrance it should be called "Diamond Geezer".
  27. Re: Working on a Coca-Cola accord. Give some help?

    Given that Lavender is mainly Linalol and Linalyl Acetate, I would ask, "What is the point?"
  28. Re: Perfume Names Terminology " Monsieur "

    That will provide the fragrance with the allure of the English Upper Class.
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    If you don't have my address then ask for it by e-mail.
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    Re: Not getting anywhere

    And to be able to play either you need to know what sounds to use. Interesting that the successful punk bands were those that could actually play their instruments.
  31. Re: Has celebrity perfume had its heyday?

    So, if I read this correctly, Paris Hilton, Beyonce, Britney, David Beckham and Jennifer Lopez are figureheads for 103 fragrances. Dear god.
  32. Re: Perfume Names Terminology " Monsieur "

    It is implying that only French fragrances are any good, as it is common knowledge that all Perfumery companies are French. (hem hem).

    Of the five big Fragrance houses (IFF, Givaudan, Firmenich,...
  33. Re: Eau, no!: Some Thoughts on Poor Taste in Perfume

    I do not agree with either of the two reasons given in the Economist article.
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    Re: What are YOU anosmic to?

    If you could smell these ingredients, but cannot smell the new samples I would assume that it is the fault of the samples and not your nose.
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    Re: Silly reasons to wear a fragrance

    Silly reasons to wear a fragrance: Your sig. o. hates it, and you are looking to split. This has never happened to me.
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    "Why Order Ratatouille ?", Leslie Demanded

    SHOUT
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    Re: Help with ratios

    Look at the thread "New Here, Need Some Advice", posts 2 and, best of all 4. Post 2 leads to a list of 100 aromachemicals that are very useful. Many find this to be overwhelming, post 4 gives...
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    Re: What are YOU anosmic to?

    Don't worry about Benzyl Benzoate, it isn't supposed to smell. It is a non volatile solvent and, supposedly, fixative. Isobornyl Cyclohexanol smells stronger the more you dilute it, but it will...
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    Re: Civet replacer and Castoreum LIquid

    Maybe it is. It's just that I don't remember getting the fish note when I smelled Hydrocarbon Resin at work. I recently smelled a sample and there was a definite fishy top. Maybe it comes from...
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    Re: Help with ratios

    Why "so little time"? You have all the time in the world. It isn't a race.
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    Re: Advice on a formula

    Generally the term "terpeneless" means Limonene has been reduced or removed. Terpeneless oils used to be more commonly used as they were more alcohol soluble, and so fragrances using them needed...
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    Re: Help with ratios

    I'm surprised that your DPG is viscous, although it is not used as the final solvent in a spray so I don't know how it performs. I would use DPG as the solvent for making your fragrance...
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    Re: Civet replacer and Castoreum LIquid

    I have noticed the fishy note as well, but only with some samples and not all. A quality problem maybe.
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    Re: Help with ratios

    The amounts can be whatever you wish, however it is far easier to work in percentages. The original formula you showed added up to a 1000, so if working in grammes you would make 1.0 Kilo of...
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    Re: Civet replacer and Castoreum LIquid

    Plasticine, especially the old stuff we used at school, smells of Labdanum or Hydrocarbon Resin B.
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    Re: Help with ratios

    If you add the amounts you see the total is 1000. To make a formula in percentages divide each amount by 10. The amounts are weight or should be) No idea what "Linalol 30" is; either a typo or...
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    I have already expressed my opinion. I will not dilute any sample with anything . I do not need to play around with the samples sent to me. All I need to have is enough sample to dip on a...
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    Re: chemicals storage

    Please be careful if you insist on using plastic. There are many types of plastic of different densities. Not all are as stable or impervious as would be wished.
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    Re: What are YOU anosmic to?

    Certainly, it is possible to learn to smell something that at first is found to be odourless. I experienced this with Hydroxycitronellal as well.
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Edgy Delia, Gave Alberta Rickets

    HOWIE
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    Re: What are YOU anosmic to?

    Iso E Super, and the Ionones are famously difficult to evaluate; they dull your nose at first or second sniff. Benzyl Salicylate is a strange one; I cannot smell it alone but can tell if it is...
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    Re: What are YOU anosmic to?

    I cannot smell Benzyl Salicylate on a smelling strip yet can detect its presence in a fragrance; and there is nothing to replace it. When I was working there were two Perfumers who were anosmic to...
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Sandy Asked Nancy "Don't Leave."

    PLEAS
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    Re: Too much bergamot -- any cure?l

    Start again having learned a valuable lesson. Don't throw the overdosed sample away, wait awhile, it may improve.
  55. Re: Spoiler alert - Ponk club Module 4 - reveal here, so don't look or mention it elsewhere

    I think of something that can be done that you may find interesting. If you described one of the samples, and thought you smelled a specific ingredient even if it turns out it wasn't there, why not...
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    Re: Can't smell musk

    Probably a mixed blessing, with the good far outweighing the bad.
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Clive Laughed Until Malcolm Snapped

    SLAPT
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    I can only speak for myself. I need enough liquid to be able to dip it, no matter whether the liquid is concentrated fragrance or a solution. I also need to know whether the liquid is a...
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    Re: The Even More Ultimate Amber Game #2

    I have yet to hear from anyone. I have not yet been asked for my address (from those who do not yet have it). The amount of fragrance you need to send should be enough for me to dip on a smelling...
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    Re: What accords make a fragrance metallic?

    Nerol is metallic rose, Palmarosa oil contains a lot of Geraniol (which is citrus rose); nothing like Neroli which is an oil extracted from the orange tree and smells like Orange Flower.
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    Re: Grasse Institute of Perfumery

    How marvellous for you. Isn't Provence wonderful.
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    Re: Alternative To Tobacco Oil

    Tobacco extracts are used in Perfumery. However, the Tobacco extracts that are more commonly used, and those that are widely accepted are those extracts which have had the Nicotine removed. It is...
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Research Encouraged Kenneth To Tremble

    TREMO
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    I remember the first (and only) time I tasted Dr. Pepper. I took a mouthful, and spat it out.
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    Maybe Olbas oil is unique to the UK. It is a mixture of Essential oils (including Clove, Eucalyptus, Peppermint and Cajeput. This is the only time I have ever encountered Cajeput oil in...
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    Re: Not getting anywhere

    So Tomolo, when you dipped and smelled each of these ingredients and followed how long they lasted on a smelling strip ( making notes and trying to describe the smell all the time) did you really...
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    Oh and I forgot, Deep Heat vapour rub, for strained muscles. Guess it's less toxic than Sassafras , but tasted not much better. It has to be a cultural thing but I hate root beer, and don't get...
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    Re: chemicals storage

    Also, you should check to see if there is a seal inside the lid. A round piece of plastic or cardboard that ensures a tight fit. In your photograph it is the white shape in the inside of the lid....
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    I can never understand the popularity of Wintergreen as a flavouring in America. It reminds me only of mouthwash and the dentists. Ain't different cultures great!
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    Thank you for that, I always like to learn things. I really thought that Menthol came from Peppermint. So can you tell me why my Olbas oil contains both Dementholated Peppermint oil, and added...
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    Re: Lilial/Lilyall crystallyzation

    BHT will help, as will adding some ethanol. Getting good quality, fresh Lilial is good too.
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    When you distill a mixture of chemicals, you can follow the progress of separation as the individual chemicals vaporise and pass over into the condenser. It is possible to isolate specific...
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    It is very difficult to remember and describe smells as our vocabulary for this is so poor. We have very few words (in English, other languages may be better at this) which directly describe a...
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    Re: Lilial/Lilyall crystallyzation

    I think so, yes.
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    Re: Rescuing Naturals

    Is that the same as a "semi-synthetic"?
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    You can get at least two types of ingredient both called "Vetiveryl Acetate". One is the result of the acetylation of extracted Vetiverol, the other the product of the acetylation of Vetiver oil. ...
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    Re: Lilial/Lilyall crystallyzation

    Lilial oxidises very quickly. I have to disagree with Paul over this one, if your Lilial has gone completely solid it is no good. Try to store Lilial in the cold and in the dark. Do nt use...
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    Re: Incense sticks

    I'm really sorry but making Incense sticks is the one area of room fragrancing that I know nothing about.
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    Re: Camden Grey

    I have absolutely no idea what is being talked about, and have no desire to find out. Why has this appeared on the DIY forum?
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    Re: chemicals storage

    Yes, it is entirely possible. I have seen contamination between two ingredients stored in dark glass jars with ground glass lids., placed next to each other on a shelf. Heliotropin and Indole...
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    Re: chemicals storage

    Things have been contaminated. I do not know of anything that can pass through glass, I now of many things that can pass through plastic, and that can pass through an ill fitting stopper. Clearly...
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    Re: Perfume Colour

    Both
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    Re: Rescuing Naturals

    Boring, tedious and self defeating. I want Chanel 5, and Vent Vert, and Youth Dew, and Shalimar. I don't want mixtures of Essential oils.
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    Re: chemicals storage

    You store everything in dark glass bottles, not clear glass, but dark glass. You store everything in the cold, which is just above fridge temperature. Try to use as little plastic as possible. ...
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    Re: Not popular AC part 1.

    Thanks for reminding me; Hedione is very good in citrus fragrances. I haven't smelled citral Dimethyl Acetal, but it could be interesting.
  86. Re: Making and selling UK compliant candles

    The regulations that apply to cosmetic and fine fragrances do not apply to fragrances which are regarded as "non skin" (fragrances which are not expected to be in contact with skin). Check out the...
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    Re: Not popular AC part 1.

    Citrus oils are not very stable and need very careful storage. Limonene oxidises very quickly too. Aldehydes also, I'm afraid. To make a very sharp fresh sparkling citrus you will need more...
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    With naturals and natural extracts the quality will vary from producer to producer.
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    Re: Advice on a formula

    Be careful following a Headspace analysis, you will get a distorted picture. Headspace analyses always show a huge amount of Indole (assuming it is present); when you try to duplicate it the...
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    Re: Not popular AC part 1.

    If it is possible for you to get a small sample of each and smell them you would know what the differences are. However, if you cannot do this here is my take on your question. Limonene is a...
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    Re: Vetiver, Vetiverol, Vetiveryl

    Vetiver oil is an Essential oil made by steam distilling Vetiver roots. The major component of this oil is Vetiverol (about 50.0%), and it may be isolated from the oil. It is made up of several...
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    Re: Saftey of Polysorbate-80 in diffuser

    As I understand it the Polysorbate dissolves in the water, and it is only the fragrance that evaporates. The same will happen using DPG, however DPG is volatile and so some will also evaporate.
    ...
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Fashionable Allergenic Students Hosted Outrage

    FAKES
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    Re: Favorite Geosmin pairings

    It works in so many ways. It's a booster. As has been shown above, anything green,or herbal, or wet and watery can benefit from Geosmin. A green floral; an earthy leather, a mossy Fougere. ...
  95. Re: Whatmethods you use to remember the smell of similar materials ?

    I think this works for everyone. When "learning a smell" try to pick out something that is significant to you. You mention the creamy quality of Ambrox DL; it is creamy to you, others may...
  96. Re: Whatmethods you use to remember the smell of similar materials ?

    It takes time. Also you will never reach a point where you can stop. Whilst I was working I would spend some time everyday smelling ingredients to refresh my memory. We would also test each...
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Comrades Have Abandoned Obvious Security

    DIFFI
  98. Re: Whatmethods you use to remember the smell of similar materials ?

    It's difficult. It is good to compare those ingredients that are similar so that you can try to find out the differences. (Only my opinion) but I find Geraniol is always more metallic and lemony...
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    Re: Saftey of Polysorbate-80 in diffuser

    From the evidence of post number 2 I'm sure that Polysorbate-80 is perfectly safe. However, in my experience, the best solvent/carrier for this type of product is Dipropylene Glycol( DPG). This...
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    Re: Five Letter Game

    Garry Violated Cissie's Invisible Barrier

    BOUND
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