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  1. Re: Karmaflor (Givaudan) anyone ever smelled it?

    Yes it is salicylate, the guy from Givaudan said in a interview from 2011 that this new material smells like tropical flowers, frangipani direction, naturally present in indian ashok flower. I am...
  2. Karmaflor (Givaudan) anyone ever smelled it?

    Has anyone ever smelled it?

    I am assuming it is a captive....

    Thanks!
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    Re: Exclusive Materials Proposition

    I've been praying for a tuberose base to come to our market!
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    Re: Benzyl benzoate smell/effect?

    Thank you David, so I shouldn't worry much about benzyl benzoate being it? In other words not that oily, balsamic, vanillic facet I might be after...
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    Benzyl benzoate smell/effect?

    Been working recently with salicylates etc trying to create tropical flower accords and could be possibly missing a facet.
    All the formulas I saw contain benzyl benzoate, now I never smelled it but...
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    Re: Madagascar Vanilla Absolute Supplier.

    For Eau Duelle type I'd use this accord (maybe lower ethyl maltol a bit - or maybe not) add musks (eau duelle is heavy on musks) and add Elemi (peppery/lemony) to the heart.
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    Re: Madagascar Vanilla Absolute Supplier.

    Alpha, this rather simple accord smells great from the beginning to me and boosts other scents when added to them. I think of it as good exercise that showcases impact the other "non usual" suspects...
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    Re: Madagascar Vanilla Absolute Supplier.

    Alpha, there is a great vanilla accord from Perfumers Apprentice wich uses vanillin, ethyl vanillin, hedione, ethyl maltol and methyl diantilis. I improved it myself by adding a hint of coumarin and...
  9. Re: Need opinon on which synthetic musk(s) to use for...

    Ambergris ollifac I got from pa smells like amber, a little salty, sea maybe a little, exalting a little, never smelked the real thing though. In higher concentration it smells like a foul breath.
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    Re: We are Meeting on Skype right now

    Was nice to get to know you people :)
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    Re: Google Hangout Saturday Jan 17?

    Would love to join in and say hi!
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    Re: Freshly Unboxed Apple Product

    Odeur 53 by comme des garcons had a whole bunch of weird smelling things featured in it like flint, aluminum etc. If I remember correctly I could smell floralozone and some musks in it, among other...
  13. Re: Starting small, need advice regarding perfume oil business

    Well that depends on the storage, heat, weather and quality of the oils of course. But the diffrence is years for cyclomethicone vs a year to several months for natural oils.
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    Re: Lime / Vanilla Fragrance

    My suggestion would be to also try adding a touch of tonka to vanilla to make it creamier. If you'd like to extend the lime note maybe a touch of litsea or ginger oil.
  15. Re: Starting small, need advice regarding perfume oil business

    I'd also go for cyclomethicone etc. like Paul suggested, rather than natural oils, because of the longer shelf life. Natural oils tend to get stale after a period of time.
  16. Poll: Re: Which BASE note do you think smells best with vanilla?

    Paul it is funny that you say vanilla or vanillin is way dominant in the US. Here in Europe (Austria) things are much more subtle, I guess. We don't get wafts of abercrombie or bath and body works...
  17. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Nizan ditto! I only have experience with ambroxan. I'd also be interested to know how they differ or perform, especially for the application I'm sort of ambitiously working on at the moment: the...
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    Re: Aroma of Christmas Trees

    Cool :). I would also like to add aldehyde 12mna.
  19. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Thanks BAGreat for your observation it makes a lot of sense. Like said it is true that cashmeran is way more present than that formula actually states. I am half way of making it proper though....
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    Re: Warm Glow?

    Ambers (ambroxan, fixateur 505, ambrox dl etc.) plus heliotropin for warmth plus diffusive woods like trimofix, cedramber etc. Oh and don't forget musks.
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    Re: Driftwood or Salty Accord

    For that tommy hilfiger opening note try cucumber aldehyde. Th fragrances are dominated by it. Norlimbanol has dry wood impression. Sage essential oil is said to smell salty. Juniper may add that...
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    Re: How to Make Marijuana Perfume

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    Re: How to Make Marijuana Perfume

    The level of trolling (the op) in this thread is over 9000!
  24. Re: Need advice about blending LUZI brand or ARGEVILLE brand fragrance compounds

    I think the question should be directed at the companies that produce the materials. Normally a fragrance compound isnt oily. Maybe they are selling fragrance oils, I am not familiar with the...
  25. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Yes definitely, I think it is the methyl anthranilate, but surprisingly dominant in the top notes (which puzzles me since it is a heart note).
  26. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Lol Chris, I can already see the people of Shropshire rioting!
  27. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Ok, so ambrocenide it is, next ingredient to go on a list, thanks Chris.
  28. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    My other question to Chris would be (I read your article on ambers) Are ambrox and ambroxan that dramatically different in terms of odour and diffusion?
  29. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Yes I have used the same formula
  30. Re: What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    Thanks Chris, yes I have tried trimofix and it came close to it.

    I used ebanol instead of bacdanol and ambroxan instead of ambrox in my test and must say that it came close to it again.

    On the...
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    Re: help me to start

    For jasmine I'd use sampaquita from givaudan, it is a ready made floral base that smells like jasmine sambac very fresh and you can tweak it to your liking. It is a heart note and available at...
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    Re: What to buy additionally?

    Thanks Bart, thanks Chris (that's really cool and I will consider that).
    The only reason I'm not that quick to order from Hermitage oils is, although they have a really excellent selection and...
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    Re: What to buy additionally?

    Chris that is a nice list. I am looking at strawberry furanone but in smaller quantities as well as cedramber, do you think Plush Folly might have it soon from you? Thanks
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    Re: What to buy additionally?

    Thank you, didn't know about Plush Folly, cool!
  35. What musks, woody ambers are in Alien by Mugler?

    I find its base notes highly diffusive ambery woody musk.
    What musks and woods do you think could have been used in this one apart from the usual suspects like jasmine sambac, methyl anthranilate,...
  36. Re: Can you give me feedback for perfumersupplyhouse.com ?

    They have great customer service.
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    Re: odor lychee

    Rose oxide may be one...
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    Re: D carvone, does anyone have?

    For some reason I want to believe caraway would work well in juxtaposition to creamy lactones, giving them edge and pushing into exotic, hence the reason I'm looking for it.
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    Re: D carvone, does anyone have?

    I saw the same option on ebay (mystic moments) would you pls let how it is when you get it, quality wise. Thanks
  40. Thread: Pipettes

    by perfectscent
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    Re: Pipettes

    Olfactik has disposable pipettes affordable.
  41. Re: The effect of cardamom on a composition

    I love cardamom in fragrances (ck truth men, paired with cis 3 hexenol) and love adding some powder to coffee from time to time. Sadly I haven't been able to use it in a blend yet.
    I guess it is...
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    Re: D carvone, does anyone have?

    Ok thanks David, I figured so.
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    D carvone, does anyone have?

    Hi all,
    Just wanted to ask if anyone has a small amount of d-carvone for sale, would really appreciate it?

    Thanks
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    Re: Sharp top notes

    You're welcome Manshigo, apart from everything being said, I wanted to add methyl laitone (for smoothing out citrus) smells like coconut milk plus a refrigerator full of fruit (citrus) lol. It adds...
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    Re: Sharp top notes

    Hedione works as citrus and also jasmine enhancer in compositions.
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    Re: Sharp top notes

    I have used the PA's white grapefruit key accord and it works very well in lemony citrus top notes. Also litsea cubeba oil is a strong and long lasting sharp citrus (lemon balm) note (you only need a...
  47. Re: PSH provides help with hard to find materials

    Christine that is great news. PSH is highly recommended!
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    Re: Snow Notes

    Lillyal 80-54-6
    Leerall 31906-04-4
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    Hm.. lemme check real quick...

    Hm.. lemme check real quick...
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    fragrance formula for a crisp, cool fragrance...

    fragrance formula for a crisp, cool fragrance that invokes an invigorating walk on a winter's day

    GREEN ACETATE 0.5
    BETA-IONONE 0.2
    LILLYAL9.0
    CITRONELLOL 1.0
    GAMMA-UNDECALACTONE 0.5
    HEXYL...
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    Re: Where can I get Bourgeonal?

    I'd be interested too...
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    Re: The problem with sweetness

    Almost every woodsy perfume formula I saw so far, had verdox in the top notes, ionones in the middle and vertofix coeur in the base, among other of course.
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    Re: The problem with sweetness

    Methyl anthranilate, heart note, grape soda sweetness
    Alpha ionone, heart note, raspberry, fruity, violet, iris.
    Anise works well with woody notes as well, especially oud.
    Ethyl maltol in traces...
  54. Re: Thank you Graphite (And, So easy to order)

    Hi Graphite, could you send me the pdf list too!
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Took the survey, like the layout of your site.
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    Now, I have a questiom about using scales to...

    Now, I have a questiom about using scales to weigh liquids?

    How do you do that if you are, lets say, trying to make 10% dilution?

    Is it really necessary to weigh aromachemicals that are already...
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    Citrus, aldehydes maybe, mintonat, pine, fir...

    Citrus, aldehydes maybe, mintonat, pine, fir needles, powdery musks, ozone, watery elements, balsams, dry woods.

    Jc ellena used bergamot vs heliotrope in his eau d'hiver. Jc brossius used notes of...
  58. Re: Good top notes for a coconut based fragrance blend?

    Hello, just to report back on nonyl acetate and coconut. Yes, it is a perfect match! Green creamy just perfect. Thanks for suggesting it Julian.
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    Hi Hondo here are the cas numbers for ionones...

    Hi Hondo here are the cas numbers for ionones used in the formula
    ALPHA-ISOMETHYL IONONE 127-51-5
    METHYL ALPHA-IONONE ISOMERS 1335-46-2
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    Hi Hondo, since you like plum and it is the right...

    Hi Hondo, since you like plum and it is the right season for plums I have another (simpler) accord. The one above is a nice rich oriental plum, so I've been told and this one is a fruity one.
    ...
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    I also had a PLUM accord at hand, so you guys...

    I also had a PLUM accord at hand, so you guys might give it a try...

    Dihydromyrcenol 16
    Alpha cedrene 0.2
    Benzyl benzoate 0.7
    Citronellol 0.8
    Coumarin 2.2
    Delta damascone 0.1
    Cashmeran 0.2...
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    No problem Paul

    No problem Paul
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    Here's a pink grapefruit accord if anyone is...

    Here's a pink grapefruit accord if anyone is willing to try.
    Happy perfuming!


    Gardenia acetal 2.0
    Tonalid 0.3
    Alpha isomethyl-ionone 0.3
    Alpha terpineol 1.6
    Lilial 6.2
    Citronellol 0.5
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    Re: Narcotic florals

    Thanks guys ;)
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    Re: Narcotic florals

    Sure but members get notification mails and not everybody on this forum and there is a difference.
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    The inconsistency lies in my wish to publish it...

    The inconsistency lies in my wish to publish it on a members only forum and not on a public forum. Reason I'm asking Paul to remove the text.
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    Yes Paul, thanks but I would prefer if it stayed...

    Yes Paul, thanks but I would prefer if it stayed on the yahoo group since it is members only that way, copyright and all, ya know. So if you could please remove it from here.
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    Re: Narcotic florals

    I posted the formula on yahoo groups. It didnt work properly from my phone here.
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    Maybe, Valspice could be what you're looking...

    Maybe, Valspice could be what you're looking for...

    https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-7659-valspice-4-methyl-guaiacol.aspx
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  73. Here is a simple "amber/frankincense" formula...

    Here is a simple "amber/frankincense" formula feel free to add your ingredients

    hexenyl salycilate cis3 0.5
    Verdox0.1
    Beta ionone1.0
    Ebanol 0.5
    Alpha cedrene0.9
    Alpha pinene0.3
    Alpha...
  74. Thread: Mango

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    Re: Mango

    Verdox 1.0
    verdyl acetate 1.0
    allyl cyclohexyl propionate ahcp 0.5
    alpha-terpineol 2.0
    beta-ionone 0.6
    citronellol 3.0
    delta-damascone 0.5
    aldehyde c16 4.0
    fruitate 1.0
    gamma-undecalactone...
  75. Re: Good top notes for a coconut based fragrance blend?

    No David it is my formulation. It is all based on trial. I wish they had a demonstration for a coconut formula from the beginning, it would have saved me a lot of money, believe me.
  76. Hey guys thank you for the suggestions. Here is...

    Hey guys thank you for the suggestions.
    Here is a quick rundown of the notes.
    I can share basic ingredients, not the measures because I'm bad at taking notes, you can reference the single...
  77. Good top notes for a coconut based fragrance blend?

    Hi guys,
    What would work well as a top note for a coconut based fragrance?

    I have two blends one that is transparent oily coconut and a second one that is milky coconut.
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    Re: Benzyl Acetate Harshness

    Oh, that's good to know. Thanks David.
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    I am curious about the harshness as well, I got...

    I am curious about the harshness as well, I got mine from Olfactik and to me it smells like vinegar - literally. Is mine off or something?
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    Re: Need Help with a "Frothy Milk" Note

    Bedoukian milk lactones, mixture of isomers available at perfumer supply house is spot on frothy milk.
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    It makes sense Bill especially for an...

    It makes sense Bill especially for an international order.
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    Re: What musk to get from PA?

    Thank you!
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    Hello, I would like to get a clean musk think:...

    Hello,
    I would like to get a clean musk think: dryer sheets, powder, snow, clean, cozy.h
    I had experience with habanolide, ambrettolide, tonalid and muscone. I was anosmic to most of them, well...
  84. Re: Had My First Sales Event-- my experience so far...

    And by the way, if you're wondering why your ex was awkward is that she is not over you yet and she is coping as well. The opposite of love is not hate or emotions but indifference.
  85. Hi Indie just wanted to comment on your ex gf. I...

    Hi Indie just wanted to comment on your ex gf.
    I was in the same boat about 3 years ago and it hurt like hell in the beginning so I feel you. But remember,
    Firstly you have to be happy with...
  86. Re: Had My First Sales Event-- my experience so far...

    Congratulations Indie, you're obviously doing it right!
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    I guess that is what I wanted to hear, they'll be next on my list together with some aldehydes.
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    Yes, we're on the same page Bill. For coconut I tried many combinations and still working on the best one. Have c18, gamma octalactone, methyl laitone, bicyclononalactone, coumarin, metyl 6 coumarin...
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    Btw I just added that musk ambroxan vanilla...

    Btw I just added that musk ambroxan vanilla accord plus suederal, I guess we have to wait and see. Thanks David, always appreciated.
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    I have zero experience with aldehydes and ionones, thought about getting them next.
    I guess they are essential, do you think?
    I have citronellol, linalol, eugenol, terpineol alpha and methyl...
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    Yes I did sir, with some more with some less
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    Question to Mr. Kiler,
    how could i please buy a sample of your gold leather fragrance?
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    No I don't know how much suederal I need to add, just learning as I go.

    I have the above mentioned tuberose acs (formula) plus the following

    phenlyethyl alcohol
    c18
    lyral
    lillal...
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    What do you guys think of labdanum? Never smelled it. And Nizan thank you for suggesting oppoponax, sounds interesting, i only hope ut doesnt introduce that powdery musty note though.
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    I guess what I am after is the "liquid amber" effect, sweet sparkling amber if that makes any sense. I once mixed musks with ambroxan, vanilla and ethyl maltol and achieved a base similar to jpg...
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    Yes i have tried adding suederal to the accord (high dilution that is) and it works fine. I would like to take the edge off it though by introducing ambers and vanillas maybe. I only have ambroxan...
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    You have a good taste Mr. Kiler
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    Yes thank you first of all. I am a relative newbie but can't afford every single molecule on the market though. When i describe somethin I am not looking for exact information but something you think...
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    Re: Need help with a Tuberose accord

    Thank you in advance
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    Need help with my tuberose, for real. I made the...

    Need help with my tuberose, for real.
    I made the accord (more or less) following David's instruction in this thread and it is a yummy floral, truly fresh and creamy light. Must say I subed...
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