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    Re: Blond Leather Accord

    IBQ is starring my accord, ofcourse.. Just looking for ways to bulk it up, without adding heaviness.
    The problem is that everything 'green' that I used except IBQ, is volatile.
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    Re: Reseda accord suggestions

    Here are three bases from Gattefosse:

    Mignonette I
    alpha Ionone 250
    Orris resinoid 50
    Methyl Ionone 100
    Phenylproyl Acetate 100
    Geraniol (Palmarosa) 200
    Phenylethyl Acetate 75
    Styrallyl...
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    Re: Reseda accord suggestions

    I think I have a Reseda accord somewhere.. I will look for it.
    I'm very interested in this accord, since it appears in some perfumes that I like. Too bad the abs. isn't carried in small amounts...
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    Re: Blond Leather Accord

    I have been working on a 'green' leather accord (I'm adding some Galbanum resinoid, Cassie abs and Vertofix) for my never ending Brand New Smelling Game attempt. I've noticed the Suederal is slightly...
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    Re: Should Rose oil smell sharp and metallic

    Why don't you try to get a widely used base, like Dorinia - which is available in small quantities?
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    Re: Musk Xylene (xylol) first impressions

    Just don't eat it :)
    I have it at 10%.. It had a sugary edge to me, and I don't find it offensive at all. Very cool..
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    Re: Metallic Accord !!!

    Why isoEugenol acetate and not just isoEugenol? (I tried the acetate - something was bothering me with it, so I switched to the alcohol).
    I will try Hexyl Benzoate (probably not the same as Z...
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    Re: Metallic Accord !!!

    The main problem is that I can't remember the smell of Narcissus.. So I'm doing half a fantasy note.
    I have a few other Narcissus formulations - maybe I will try one of these, though they all seem...
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    Re: Metallic Accord !!!

    It's not very heavy - I really like the dry down actually.. Just the Benzyl Acetate and the Terpineol at the beginning are slightly sickening.. (I think it's them - I will try just them both later to...
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    Re: Metallic Accord !!!

    Thanks!
    Looking over it - the relevant additional top notes could be Geranyl Acetate or Ylang?
    I don't mind going a bit synthetic if it could break that sweet top notes.
    Maybe I should have used...
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    Re: Metallic Accord !!!

    I've tried this accord with some changes(adding Hydro Cinnamaldehyde, Magnolan, Indole and Gamma Decalacton, replacing Terpineol with Tilianol, Linalool with Coranol, Petitgrain with Neroli, and...
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    Re: Very talc like musk combo help needed

    What a nice link!
    I sometimes substitute Acetanisole for Courmarin.. It gives that powderiness, but more floral.
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    Re: Fresh hay accords

    What species of Helichrysum did you use? I find the two I have are different (one smells too much like Indian food).
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    Re: Fresh hay accords

    Hmm.. Anisaldehyde and the such?
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    Re: How to create rose soliflore

    Could anyone post this photo? Seems like the original was deleted..
    Thanks!
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    Re: Best rose bulgarian abs

    I love their roses! It could get better?!
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    Re: Ruby gromwell oil

    Maybe you could explain this to Adam, and he'll be willing to share his supplier's name with you.
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    Re: Jasmin 231 - Amazing

    Congrats on the blog! :)
  19. Thread: Citronellic Acid

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    Re: Citronellic Acid

    David - I ask questions. That's what I do at work, and that's what I do out of work.
    Secondfloor - I'm not sure what this means, but what about the various Bucchu/Black Currant related materials?...
  20. Re: Natural non-essential oils and why you should use them

    Do you do all your small attempts with them? Or do you use them only once you're settles with something?
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    Re: Space has a smell!

    You think it complies with IFRA?
  22. Thread: Natural Indole

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    Re: Natural Indole

    Natural - as in extraction, bacteria made, or what?
  23. Thread: Citronellic Acid

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    Re: Citronellic Acid

    Is there a way to tell which acid would be reactive and which won't?
  24. Thread: Citronellic Acid

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    Citronellic Acid

    I've stumbled upon this :

    http://perfumechemicals.com/2015/01/18/an-old-book-accord/

    It seems acids are almost never offered on DIY sites (except Phenyl Acetic Acid, which I got from PW). It...
  25. Thread: Natural Indole

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    Re: Natural Indole

    I totally agree. It's floral jasminy, and can probably be dosed much higher than synthetic Indole.. Though unlike jfrater I tend to be a bit careful with those super expensive materials :)
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    Re: Recreating Borneo 1834

    I wouldn't pass on the musks you can't smell. Could be related to your nose learning curve. Try them in a mix and smell it a day after - you might find each has different effects. I'm not familiar...
  27. Thread: Tabu - Help!

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    Re: Tabu - Help!

    I just tested it for my "Brand New Smelly Game".. It's nice with the ionones and Vetiver. How much do you usually use?
    Maybe you can send David a small sample of your Tabu.. :p
  28. Thread: Lilac Accord

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    Re: Lilac Accord

    How do you come up with these so fast?
    Do you make large batches of variations?
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    Re: Soft Tea Scent - what is it/

    Some terpenes maybe?
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    I'm having a few issues (still!) with the base accord..
    The first one - it smells totally different on paper than on skin. Makes it tricky to evaluate. Anyone got a solution to that, that doesn't...
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    Re: Givaudan Sampaquita Formula

    Thanks!
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    Re: Heliotropin: The Low Down

    I wish I could get samples of these..
    Too bad they're not listing the impurities..
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    Re: Heliotropin: The Low Down

    Could you ask for purity specs or GCMS data on those three? Interesting what keeps it going longer..
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    Re: New shop for raw materials online!

    Good for all of us!
    I have super super positive experience with Graphite. Highly recommended!
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    Re: iso Butyl Quinoline

    Though I assure you, Skatole is worse. I was wondering for a long time why my balcony smells like poop.. I thought there were rats or mice..
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    Re: Amyl Cinnamic Aldehyde - replacement

    What are these isolated from?
  37. Thread: Lilac Help!

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    Re: Lilac Help!

    Hmm.. Have you tried Tilianol/Lindenol? It's different from a-Terpineol..
    I have never smelled Lilacs, so I can't really help.
    Sometimes when I mix a couple of Muguet chemicals together I get...
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    Re: iso Butyl Quinoline

    Thanks for this! I dismissed this material a while ago since it was just too offensive for me in its pure form (and it sticks to my fingers, and for some reason I can smell it without getting...
  39. Thread: Skatole

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    Re: Skatole

    Mandy Aftel used to carry some. Rather expensive, but smells more floral and friendly.
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    Re: Amyl Cinnamic Aldehyde - replacement

    I thought just the fatty ones should be.. :huh:
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    Re: Amyl Cinnamic Aldehyde - replacement

    The remark about yellow materials also applies to HCA?
    They seem to go bad quite quickly. Should they be in the fridge?
  42. Thread: Skatole

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    Re: Skatole

    Told you, too scared to open the box in which the bottle is in.. (and it's at 1%)..
    I guess I will brave it during the weekend.
  43. Thread: Skatole

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    Re: Skatole

    Thanks! I like Phenylacetic Acid! It gives a nice twist sometimes.
    What should I expect when I replace Indole with Skatole? Indole sometimes makes a tobacco impression in some contexts, which I...
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    Re: Dimethyl Sulphide

    Hmm.. I occasionally use the single note forum. Maybe you could write here and I'll place a link to your message on the single note forum?
    Or copy paste it? (Assuming the admins are ok with that)
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    Re: Dimethyl Sulphide

    Very nicely written! Thanks!
    I would suggest Sulfurol - you once suggested it to me, and I really like it. It gives a nice edge to Sandalwood. Though it was really tough to source, since apparently...
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    Re: My Perfume Lab Thus Far

    Looks like the annual supply from 2013 :p

    I wish I had a room to set up such a nice lab!
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    Re: Musk Xylol / Xylene Replacer . . ?

    You won't like this, but

    http://www.perfumersworld.com/product/1XU00311.html

    ;)
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    Re: PK's New Lab in Process

    Wow! Very nice!
  49. Re: Need suggestions for items in a kit for Group Evaluation on Spreecast

    Hmm.. could have been nice to compare the heart materials to the normal distillation. But then it depends on what people have already. I, for one, would like to compare the Cypriol with the one I...
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    Re: Muguet best naturals...

    I thought bitter almond oil is 98% Benzaldehyde, or something like that.. So the traces are long lived and smell bad?
    What a bummer.
    I've recently caught the smell of Benzaldehyde is some flowers...
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    Re: Sampaquita accord formula ((Jasmine Sambac)

    Hmm.. Even made a Star Jasmine accord? I've came across Jasmine Etoile Givco (just the name, never had a chance to smell it), and I'm curious about it. I like the plant - when it flowers it's quite...
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    Re: Vintage Dianthine Base Formula

    How cool that you're sharing this! Thanks!
    What type of Ylang did you use? I'm a bit confused about the I, II, III, complete thing..
    Also - I thought that the Heliotropine replacer is just...
  53. Thread: Making Bakhoor?

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    Re: Making Bakhoor?

    From what I understand Bakhoor is a general word for an incense mix, much like Khawaiejh (or whatever it's spelled like) is a general word for a mix of spices.
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Hmm.. Arion - I was trying other lactones in this accord.. They work quite nicely. I will also try this one (I think I have some.. maybe not dodeca, but I'll look). I'm not sure I can take out books...
  55. Thread: Timing sessions

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    Re: Timing sessions

    Hmm.. I tried short sessions yesterday. Much more sane!
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Hmm.. I'm not familiar with p-Cresyl Methyl Ether.. TGSC say it's a top note, but it seems I can't trust their data with cresolic chemicals..
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    I think I have p-Cresol.. I will compare and see. From what I remember, I liked the meta.. In what way do you think it's preferable?
    I couldn't find any Poucher formulas online, unfortunately..
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Thanks!
    My main aim was to share, since there wasnt a lot of formula sharing here ��
  59. Thread: Timing sessions

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    Re: Timing sessions

    So you dont assess while blending? How long do you sit?
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    I actually have all of those. I tried the para cresyls and didn't like the result (they were kind I've too animalic/wild..). Maybe I like the medicinal aspect of the meta.. I will try the PCPA again,...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Here's what I'm using as a basic Narcissus accord.. Any comments and tips are welcome.

    m-Cresol 0.4
    Aurantiol 0.8
    iso Eugenol 8
    Lilial 82
    Oranger 8
    Phenylacetic acid 0.1
    DPG ...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    I think we've already had a similar discussion in the past.. 10 hours at 100% on a blotter is very different from 10% on skin. Linalool in a blend at around 10% fades in less than an hour on my skin....
  63. Thread: Timing sessions

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    Timing sessions

    Hi everyone,

    I've realized I have been following in my perfuming session as I do with everything else - I drive myself to sensory overload, and fatigue myself (mentally and physically). I keep...
  64. Re: Tauer Perfumes - L'Air du Desert Marocain GC-MS

    I believe you cannot pay till the full sum is pledged..
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Following a nice accident yesterday - does anyone know of base notes materials which are camphorous like Cineol? I've tried Dimethyl Cyclormol, but it's too Patchouli, and it seems Verdol only lasts...
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    Re: Help me identify this chemical

    Hmm.. Iso E + Orivone + Adoxal? :huh:
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    Re: Favorite Lactones

    I was just reading up on lactones when this thread popped up. I have some Lactojasmone which I will try tomorrow. What about Dihydro iso Jasmone?

    I was wondering if there are lactones which could...
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    Re: 'Friendly Fire' Mens Cologne

    So 20 minutes into the dry down it would smell of Civet on my skin? (It's usually what it takes perfume to evaporate everything that has less than 50 hours on my skin at around 5-10%).
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Some updates -
    I'm realizing I've been using too much lily chemicals to my liking. Also I overdosed the Phenyl Acetic Acid (I used it at 0.01%, but maybe it's still too much). And Fir absolute is...
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    Re: 'Friendly Fire' Mens Cologne

    Check out his signature - supposed to be a natural Civet replacement..
  71. Thread: Mellis Accord

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    Re: Mellis Accord

    Hmm.. I have both Ambrettexes CP carry.. I will give them a try. Though I didn't have much success with them in the past.
    Thanks!
  72. Thread: Mellis Accord

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    Re: Mellis Accord

    Hmm.. anyone has any idea what I can replace 12-methyl-9-oxa-14-tetradecanolide with? I couldn't find much about its scent.
  73. Re: Tauer Perfumes - L'Air du Desert Marocain GC-MS

    Do you guys think there's any chance I can collect enough for Dune Pour Homme?
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    Re: bourgeons de cassis

    Do the buds smell different at different times, or is it an issue of yield?
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    Re: difference between eugenol and isoeugenol

    I donno, I just diluted some isoeugenol that was left in a vial for a long time, long before after all the alcohol evaporated, and it even slightly discolor.. Still smells the same, though. What did...
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    Re: Favorite orris replacers?

    No no, it's personal carelessness.

    Thanks David :)
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    Re: Favorite orris replacers?

    Just those ones? From what I've smelled I can't really associate C10-C12 with sweaty.. Though I'm starting to understand what fatty means, as I've been following their drydown for a while (I found a...
  78. Re: Reminiscent smells of cleanliness in naturals?

    Mint? Whatever kills bacteria...
    I guess Skatole is universally not-clean.
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    Re: Favorite orris replacers?

    "Strongly fatty or sweaty smelling aldehydes of the saturated fatty acids with 8-13 carbon atoms".. What could those be?
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    Re: GERMACRENE - Boronia Headspace Based Accord

    So it's used in perfumery as a separate chemical? From the lack of safety data on TGSC I thought that maybe it wasn't.
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    Re: Favorite orris replacers?

    Hence the descriptors "orris green hairy woody unripe melons" of Costus abs in TGSC :p
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    Re: Favorite orris replacers?

    From The Psychological Basis of Perfumery by Jellinek :

    Orris root oil exhibits, along with its dominant odor of violets, a sweet—fatty—sweaty nuance reminiscent of scalp hair that is more...
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    Re: GERMACRENE - Boronia Headspace Based Accord

    I've seen it's an important part of fig leaf. And there isn't much information on TGSC..
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    Re: Aqueous Compositions

    Why?
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    You are right. I'm over complicating with concepts.
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    Re: SuperGirl perfume making game

    Rosyrane? Safraliene? Habanolide? PADMA? Bucchu/Ribes Mercaptan? Maritimia?
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    But if you want a Zen garden, and given only pine and daisy seeds, you're in a problem.
    Therefore, I'm changing my concept, and I'll see where the note list takes me instead of imposing something on...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Is it the same as Ambrox DL or Cetalox?
    If yes - then yes :)
    They're smoother than Karanal.. I will try YsamberK when I get home.. I think I have some somewhere.
    I think my main problem is the...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Won't work.. I smell about 15 strips in 10 minutes. Bad practice.

    Speaking of anosmia - Karanal seems to go nice with Vetiver, but I understand it's a tricky molecule. Some people cannot smell it...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Yeah, I'm going back to the simpler accords now. The main problem is that I stop smelling after 10 sniffs, and I keep pushing it.
    At least I've made some nice discoveries yesterday :)
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Wow. Harsh and rude.
    Doesn't work with me.

    I guess I will just keep blending till things start to connect.
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Hmm.. Doesn't the Jean Carles method say to build the smell from the base up? And I guess that if it's not working, then there's no point in building upon it.
    My main problem is that I've got some...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    I guess I wasn't very clear..
    I'm working on the base accord right now. It seems that when there's too much mixed in with the wrong proportions, my ability to smell it decreases so it's perceived as...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Hmm.. You left out Sandalwood from the Chanel one.. It seems like it's possible to solve some of my clashes with it, so I will use it.. And indeed Sulfurol adds a nice touch!
    I think that all those...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Argh, I think I will give up on my initial idea. I just can't get the base notes to play along to that. :(
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    LOL! :)

    I thought only Lyral is heavily restricted...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Ho well, the accord worked better with it. Maybe they degrade at different rates or something. I'm quite happy with my Hyacinth and Narcis accords.. No idea if they will work with the other stuff....
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    I keep losing my blotters, so if something seems very tenacious there's hardly any chance I can keep up with it.
    As for the PPA - by stable you mean chemically? It smells a bit greener to me and...
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Methyl iso Eugenol worked nicely in my blends. I've also seen some Narcissus bases have Methyl/ethyl cinnamate, which is nice. Kinda fruity, so it gives a weird Pineapple effect with the Galbanum.
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    Re: Brand New Smelly Game

    Yeah, they listed Allyl Amyl Glycolate at 84 hours. Hardly!
    We had a crazy period in the army where they planted the whole base with Narcissus flowers. However, I can't recall the smell :(
    I...
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