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  1. Re: PK Bases: Long Lasting Lemon, Magnificent Mango, Perfect Pineapple, & Radical Root Beer

    Congrats Paul. Can't wait to try them!
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    Re: A Newbie Question about "Aging" Perfume

    Mumsy, If you read this, would you be able to provide some additional information about your comment above? The result you've experienced sounds fascinating - if not a bit daunting given that there...
  3. Re: Ingredient labeling requirement confusion (USA/FDA)

    Correct, the FDA knows that the laws are complicated. So their website tries to give a broad outline, which may also link to guidance they have prepared for certain topics.

    This book provides some...
  4. Re: Ingredient labeling requirement confusion (USA/FDA)

    This is a terrific example of why laws in the fragrance industry are so complex and why it is strongly recommended that people consult with lawyers for their specific situation. ...
  5. Re: Ingredient labeling requirement confusion (USA/FDA)

    For labeling laws, there is no exception made by the FDA for "free products". However, there is an exception for labeling off the product which is likely relied upon for samples. The requirements...
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    Re: Designing a 3D printed holder for oils

    Clockworks - those designs sound great, especially the blotter holder. Good luck and please share posts of your final product!

    JHL - I use a micropipette. I haven't used the tubes you mention and...
  7. Re: Looking for Perfumery amateurs in NYC to form study group

    How was the Pratt course? I've looked into it before, but I life a few hours away from NYC so it would be a big commitment!
  8. Thread: Ifra math

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    Re: Ifra math

    Are you sure these are restricted materials? I couldn't find them on the list and it would seem unusual to have a restriction of 41%.

    The example that Julian gives is a good one, as IFRA...
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    Re: Blotters versus my skin

    I may be in the minority, but there are some ACs that I can't smell well on a blotter (e.g. some musks), but can smell much better when sprayed on my skin, so when I'm learning a new AC I usually try...
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    Re: Perfume time chemical reactions

    Those are a lot of questions! This thread has a lot of good information to start you on your search (including books that are helpful for learning more about this topic):...
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    Re: is it possible to overcome partial anosmia?

    I've found that it can sometimrs help to leave it on a strip and come back to it throughout the day. I am not sure why, but there are some ACs that I can't smell well right away (e.g. Galaxolide),...
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    Re: Oder detection thresholds in water

    This is interesting. Thanks for sharing!
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    Re: Eucalyptus accord

    I think you may be looking for camphor. Eucalyptol still has a heavy medicinal/terpenic smell.
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    Re: Pell Wall's 10% discount until Monday...

    Minx, thanks for sharing this! Pell Wall is one of my favorite suppliers. Can't wait to stock up.
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    Play-Doh Scent Trademarked!

    Thought the group might be interested in this - Hasbro just trademarked the play-doh scent in the US!

    According to Hasbro, the protected Play-Doh scent is a complex one. It’s described as “the...
  16. Re: diluting your aromachems BEFORE composing your frag?

    Hi Joev, I've only been doing this as a hobby for a little over a year, but I don't dilute the aromachems ahead of time unless the ratios call for one aromachem to be much, much smaller in quantity...
  17. Re: Does anyone know how to make a rose scented perfume?

    I second joev's recommendation. When I started working with perfumes, the accords from creating perfume were helpful. Some were better than others, so I would recommend purchasing a few to play with.
  18. Thread: Oakmoss Fraction

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    Re: Oakmoss Fraction

    There are IFRA compliant oakmoss products out there. I have purchased it before, but unfortunately, i've never smelled the original, so I can't tell you how close the two are. But, it does look like...
  19. Re: diluting your aromachems BEFORE composing your frag?

    These links may help: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/385791-Dilution

    http://pellwall-perfumes.blogspot.com/2012/06/method-for-blending.html
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    Re: Sources and Supplies and where to start

    Hi SheDevil. Welcome to BN! I started about a year ago and here is what I learned from when I was on your situation and hope it will help you:

    1. This is a really expensive hobby. I have seen...
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    Re: Need your help to choose!

    That's so cool! Fascinating that perfumes smell different on different people. Would love to see a study on that one day.
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    Re: Men's Cool Water on a woman?

    I usually love the idea of wearing what you like and not worrying about gender. But.... in the case of a well recognized guys cologne, I may have second thoughts due to the likelihood that people...
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    Re: Need your help to choose!

    What fun! Have a you tried a lot of colognes? I'm honestly not a huge fan of either of the two as a signature scent, but this is such a matter of preference (as I've always gravitated towards either...
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    Re: Blue Lotus Ab. Oil

    Not sure where you are in the world. Blue Lotus absolute is pretty expensive. Living Libations sells 2.5ml for $145 USD. White Lotus Aromatics sells it 1 oz for $600. If the price is too cheap, I...
  25. Re: Is There a Way to Reuse Old Fragrance Bottles With Crimp On Atomizers?

    Quirky Missy has a post about removing a metal crimped on sprayer using side cutting pliers, so it seems possible....
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    Re: How to color the candle flame

    When we were camping in the Poconos, I found a product that allowed us to change the color of the outdoor firepit, which we threw in after we had finished cooking all the food. I'm not sure how safe...
  27. Re: Does anyone know how to make a rose scented perfume?

    You may also want to find a pretty perfume bottle to put it in to add an additional special touch. You can try looking at Etsy under "perfume atomizer" and it will pull up both modern and vintage...
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    Re: Anyone making their own fragrances for soap?

    Hi Rachel, Just wanted to let you know that I don't believe David is currently active (much to BN members' loss), so you may not hear from him. I very much hope he will return one day.

    Like you,...
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    Re: GERMACRENE - Boronia Headspace Based Accord

    Thanks. It's a good idea, but I have a feeling it may not be worth the trouble. I'd like to use it for a floral that does not have a widely available absolute, so it may be easier just to use a woody...
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    Re: GERMACRENE - Boronia Headspace Based Accord

    I did a little research and the price seems pretty expensive. Did anyone get a chance to try it and find a comparable substitute?
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    Re: Perfume in this picture

    Pretty. I think it was probably a perfume bottle sold by itself (not with a perfume). This kind of looks like the Wedgewood jasperware bottles.
  32. Re: Lyral, Atranol & Chloroatranol (Oakmoss) now finally prohibited by EU Legislation! Any Ideas?

    Some potential options:

    1. Gather all the indie and natural perfumers and related organizations you can find and split the cost of a lobbyist.
    2. Gather all the indie and natural perfumers and...
  33. Re: Lyral, Atranol & Chloroatranol (Oakmoss) now finally prohibited by EU Legislation! Any Ideas?

    Julian - The new regulation adds Atranol & Chloroatranol to the list of prohibited substances. If you look on page 3 of...
  34. Re: How do Companies prevent their fragrances from smelling alcoholic?

    Have you tried diluting it with some distilled water? Just be careful not to dilute it too much, unless you have a preservative as well.
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    Re: candle top/middle recommendations?

    There are many fragrances that you could create harmful byproducts if burned. You may want to check the SDS sheets of your aromachemicals and/or fragrance oils.
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    Re: My Christmas fragrances are done!

    Lovely! Congrats!
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    Re: Where to get perfumers alcohol online

    CreatingPerfume sells perfumer's alcohol in the US.
  38. Re: GMP-good manufacturing practices: what does it mean?

    GMP, for FDA purposes, applies whenever the perfume you sell or market in interstate commerce can be considered a cosmetic or drug. Note that, the manner in which you market the product can cause a...
  39. Re: Apothecary-style bottles for solutions hold up?

    FYI - The link didn't show me a picture of the bottles - it went to the gmail login page.
  40. Re: Interest in sharing order for Bottles and Caps from Coverpla?

    I'll PM you.
  41. Thread: Sorry

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    Re: Sorry

    Grant, I just wanted to say "Thank You' for all the work that you have put into running the forums. I went through a really rough patch as well before I joined base notes - but having this community...
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    Re: Perfume Production Practices For Business

    BHT is not banned in the US, but it is banned in other countries (England, Japan, etc).
  43. Re: Interest in sharing order for Bottles and Caps from Coverpla?

    Yes, that I was the quote I received in Jan, but when I emailed them yesterday, they said it was now $4000. They now quote based on receipt in the US. I wish I had ordered 3 months ago.
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    Re: I want to start my own fragrance line

    Your question about whether it is viable to source the bottling from a major cosmetics manufacturer and have them mix and bottle the formulas seems unclear to me. Do you have a company in mind? I do...
  45. Re: Perfume made using reference, strong reference... the rights and wrongs

    The article mentioned above does a great job of summarizing the US laws relating to the questions that Mumsy posted about. The question of where to draw the line represents the whole practice of law...
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    Re: I want to start my own fragrance line

    Capital is going to be your largest hurdle. If you have or have access to millions of dollars, you can hire a perfumer, a bottle manufacturer, a celebrity, and other professional services.

    If,...
  47. Re: High Quality Fragrance Bottles/Atomizers (Similar to Sauvage?)

    If you are just looking for 1 bottle, your best bet is probably to forgo the grey smoke and just look for a cylindrical sprayer or look for empty bottles of Dior Sauvage on etsy or ebay. Good luck!
  48. Re: Interest in sharing order for Bottles and Caps from Coverpla?

    Hi Serg. I am not affiliated with them, so I don't have that information. Their website is www.coverpla.com. They have a "Contact Us" form on their website, so you may want to reach out to them...
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    Re: 15mm Manual Crimper ?

    I would also recommend bottlecrimptools.com. I recently purchased from him and can attest that the bottle crimper is deep enough for FEA15 size sprayers. The hand tool with 15mm and 20mm collet...
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    Re: Experiences with Eden Botanicals' products?

    My vote also goes to Eden Botanicals. Their CO2 products are terrific and their pricing matches their value.
  51. Interest in sharing order for Bottles and Caps from Coverpla?

    Is anyone interested in buying bottles from Coverpla but are not able to meet the MOQ by themselves? Coverpla's current MOQ is $4000 USD. I am looking for perfumers who would be interested in...
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    Re: Anosmia Awareness Day

    Great article! I'm always a little sad when I discover a new molecule that I am anosmic to. There have been some interesting studies though showing that training can improve olfaction and that the...
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    Re: Anosmia Awareness Day

    Great article! I'm always a little sad when I discover a new molecule that I am anosmic to. There have been some interesting studies though showing that training can improve olfaction and that the...
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    Re: Group buy for GC/MS

    The www.perfumertalk.com website does not seem to work anymore. Out of curiosity- Does anyone know what happened to it?
  55. Thread: Osmanthus!

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    Re: Osmanthus!

    I agree. I was only able to find two sources that offer it in small quantities- Perfumer's World and Etsy. Has anyone smelled it before who can share their opinion regarding whether this is uniquely...
  56. Thread: Osmanthus!

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    Re: Osmanthus!

    I found a CGMS analysis of 3 types of osmanthus flowers that stated that the flower aromas contained the following as well: Allo-ocimene (Fresh), Neo-allo-ocimene (fresh, sweet), cis-β-Ocimene...
  57. Thread: Osmanthus!

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    Re: Osmanthus!

    I agree that you need personal experience with the real thing. If it helps, I've tried osmanthus absolute from several sources and would recommend trying a sample from Eden Botanicals. Jo Malone...
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    Re: Perfumes Of Yesterday

    I borrowed it from the library and thought it was interesting to flip through from an academic perspective. It uses the formulas as a tool to discuss certain key ingredients or completed perfumes...
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    Re: "Sick of generic bottles" No-bull wood caps

    I like the cap! Have you considered a different bottle - maybe one that is taller or more larger and more square?
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    Re: In the mood for a cozy fragrance

    Demeter cardamom is simple but fun.
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    Re: Mouth Tingling While Smelling & Blending

    From what I can tell on the Basenotes threads, the decision of whether to use diluted materials or undiluted materials is a personal preference (and may be somewhat influenced by financial...
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    Re: Good scientific book

    I second pkiler's suggestion on both the Calkin book and supporting Micelle Press. Depending on you needs, you may also want to consider The Chemistry of Fragrances by Charles Sell.
  63. Thread: Rose Fragrance

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    Re: Rose Fragrance

    1% of Rose Maroc sounds like it would be very faint if this is to be noticeable in the final product. If you haven't gotten a chance to look over the introduction to perfumery that is the top post...
  64. Re: How to add thick and viscous ingredients to a perfume concentrate?

    This link also provides some useful information for dissolving vanillin: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/400684-Diluting-Vanillin-Ethyl-Vanillin-Crystals-(Aroma-Chemicals)-and-Isolates. Good luck!
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    Re: Aromatherapy Mistakes

    Yikes... Hope there aren't too many people who do this.
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    Re: Recommend me a specific scale

    I agree that the size and weight of a drop varies depending on dropper type and substance. It's great to have real-world experience on the range. My calculation above was based on calculating the...
  67. Thread: hello

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    Re: hello

    Hi pavomi! I'm new too and I feel the same way about looking forward to learning and hoping to be able to contribute :)
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    Re: Recommend me a specific scale

    If you're looking for something cheaper and can accept a bit less precision, you may want to take a look at the Amir 500g/0.01g Digital Kitchen Scale from Amazon at $12.99. It's accuracy is 0.01g...
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    Re: How Do You Use Basenotes For DIY Perfumery

    I just joined Basenotes and use the Fragrance DIy section predominantly. Many members are amazingly generous with sharing their experience and just reading it is enlivening. It often feels like we...
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    Re: Vetiver Aromatics? - Kit for a begginer

    It depends on your goals. If you're looking to start this on a hobby level, this can be a good place to start. I recently started this as a hobby as well and wasted a lot of money jumping in before...
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