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  1. I googled and found some z-11s listed under...

    I googled and found some z-11s listed under insect pheromones.
    Couldn't find anything for Ambranum
    Periploca serpium- "ill scented flowers; yellow fruit... Grown for dark green shiny leaves that...
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    Surfacing- you didn't ask him what he was wearing? :-)

    Yup- just trying to get a feel for the level of interest. I'm surprised it isn't greater, considering how "big" oud is these days.
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    Poll: Re: Agarwood Conference poll

    Gee, that's a lot of work to go through to get some chips. I hope you really enjoy them after all the hassle. Please let us know how it goes.
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    Poll: Re: Agarwood Conference poll

    They ask the same question here. My Iranian friend got nabbed trying to bring in some white pomegranates from Spain :-( So do your oud orders experience unusually long delays in customs?
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    Sparky- Wasn't it you who mentioned Canada? (albeit with a he he) :-)
    I have no idea how many BNers live in the US vs. Canada. Too bad I can't edit the poll. Maybe you can post another poll with the...
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    Poll: Re: Agarwood Conference poll

    SoGent: I should have included a probably not as a choice.

    IMHO there are a lot of good oils and woods that are still available. People have talked about showing videos, having speakers, etc.,...
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    Poll: Agarwood Conference poll

    If there were an agarwood convention in Canada, would you attend? You would be responsible for paying all of your own expenses, possibly including an admissions fee (depending on the cost to rent the...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Neurosis and dewdrops777- I'd suggest you check out samples offered by agaraura.com and oudhasi.com. They are reliable sellers who offer good quality products at reasonable prices. If you purchase a...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Dhabiat El-Oud,
    As a trader, from which country and what species of tree do you think the finest agarwood is distilled today? And if you were to make a recommendation to your friends where to...
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    Charming post, Cath! I'd wager you have an especially strong appreciation of the treasures you've collected because of the pluck and resourcefulness required to obtain them. Blessed you are :-)
    If...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Oudh Seeker: I just got a PM from a BNer who said he was pretty sure he remembered the SA in the Medinah store saying ASAQ was Cambodian, and a SA in another shop referring to Thaqeel as "the...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Thanks!
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Oudh Seeker: I have one bottle which is labeled "Thankil 100 YRS Old Cambodia (Sticky Oudh)". There's an oud carried by Oudimentary called KSSS that smells very similar to Thaqeel which is also...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    That clears that up, Oudh Seeker. Thanks for the clarification.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Pepper: It's possible that the people with whom I've spoken are ignorant of particular oils carried at different branches. I'd suggest you ask Oudh Seeker to tell you from which branch he received...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Because at least 2 BN'ers have indicated there are 2 Thaqeels I called my contact in Dubai. Over the phone he confirmed that there is only 1 Thaqeel. I also have an email from him reiterating that...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Oudseeker: Those are excellent prices. Yes, I would recommend that you purchase as much as you feel you can comfortably afford.
    Could you attempt to politely insist? Requesting to try some when so...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Which of OudSelect's oils have you tried, Yasin? How would you compare their scent with the same types of ouds from other sellers? Many thanks for your time and effort.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Ah- now I understand. Thanks for the explanation. I like the organic shape of the silver-colored "scoop"!
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Thank you for posting the very interesting photos, Amit. Are these photos of water extraction? Would you mind posting a brief explanation? I'd appreciate it.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I'm interested, illmOnk, if you can find others to split with ;-)
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    illmOnk: 50,000 glass rods cost $740.
    How about a group buy???
    :-)
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    There's no such thing as "free shipping". It's factored into the cost of the oil. So if an oil were picked up by walking into a store, I think the cost of shipping should be deducted from the price...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I care more about the contents than the packaging, however if there weren't more than a $10 shipping difference I wouldn't mind paying an extra $6-10 for a fancy, crystal bottle with a glass...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Those are very cool! Great idea! I don't know why they wouldn't ship well if properly packaged.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    You mean glass rods without a cap attached to them? Or you can specify that a particular bottle be made with a glass rod?
    You can buy glass rods here:
    http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/22-1900...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I've never seen those, Domingo. I wonder if copper is used because it's non-reactive or decorative.

    In that case, Acer, I should have written "ASAQs have.....". I had the London branch in mind,...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    ASAQ has "regular" bottles with glass dipsticks, but only in 6ml. You mentioned oils getting better in smaller bottles. We need 1 and 2 ml bottles with glass dipsticks ;-) No banging the sticks...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    My prejudice against plastic dippers is probably a nonsensical one, but I sure wish somebody would manufacture mini-vials with slim glass rods in their caps. Think we could find some venture capital...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    You're not concerned that you'll lose the oil that coats the interior walls of the bottle from which you're decanting?
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Taha: thanks for the bottle link and information. I'm not in the market for bottles but it's nice to have the information on file.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    ISaBell:
    This whole thread is devoted to people's experience with oud and oud dealers. You might consider reading back over the posts so you can benefit from what has already been written.
    To...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Organic 1:
    I'll wager you could add ASAQ's Kalakassi to the "universally liked" list. I don't know why it gets ignored on the board as everyone I know who's tried it likes it.

    You make some...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Well done, acer3! Thanks for the informative review ;-)
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    wrong board. sorry.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    To borrow the cosmonaut's categories (thanks, Igor):
    Calming/comforting – Sweet China (reminds me of khus), Enfleurage Hindi, Karnataka sandalwood (I know, sandalwood isn't oud) ;-)...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Thanks for the review, illmOnk. It appears that Oudimentary carries a range of nice oils. It good to have another seller with quality product and, especially, with more affordable prices.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    No thanks, RichFragrance.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I agree, Evogel.

    Let's say someone were to email Mr. Rafiudin and say "I see that you carry a Tarakan oil and I am willing to purchase it for $ 175.00." If Mr. Rafiudin accepts the offer, how is...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I know this isn't relevant, but "Habibi Ya Nour El" is a nice song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK9hRgbPsmM&feature=related

    (lyrics in Arabic and Spanish)
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Good points, PorkFat and Zliang.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I wonder if evogel knows? ;-)
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I asked Mr. Rafiudin for an explanation of the price difference, as judging from evogel's post, we inquired about the same time.
    Here's the response I received:

    "Thank you for your e-mail. I am...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Could the difference in the exchange rate account for a $40 spread?
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Three different prices, one of which is twice the others, seems odd. In the future I'll ask for prices in the currency of the seller so I can do my own computations.
    ASAQ and AO always quote their...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I don't want to do business with someone who changes his pricing from day-to-day.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Taha: I just got an email from Jujur Mujar. The price quoted for his Tarakan oil is $225 / tola plus shipping.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Nope!

    Since I'm feeling very lady-like, the price of Thaqeel in the London branch is 624 GBP:-)
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    The price of Thaqeel has been posted a number of times. If you downloaded the summary it's just as easy for you to look it up as it is for me.

    (Does that make a woman who wears oud, but not a...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Acer3- I'm lazy. Thaqeel is difficult to decant and I'd be too worried about making sure everyone got the proper amount. You should get it from one of your ME connections. You said you're expecting...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I have an unopened bottle of Oriscent's Royal Kinam that I'm not going to use.
    Please PM if curious.
    Thanks.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Thanks for the informative review, irrbloss. I hope your enjoyment of RKSons oud will encourage you to explore oud from other regions.
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    Re: statistical analysis on fragrance notes

    I'm not even close to being a "tech-y". I have an excel spreadsheet. In the leftmost column is a list of notes. Across the top row are the names of my perfumes. For each perfume I put an X in the...
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    Re: S o t D, Wednesday 6 May 2009

    Tuk Kuum- a new oud offering from Oudimentary featuring berries, dried fruit, sweet wood and leather.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I know this sounds weird, but it makes me cringe when I read about nails being hammered into trees, hitting them with chains, and peeling off sections of their bark in order to induce the formation...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    You're welcome, oudlover.
    That's not to say that some farming isn't successful, and musk is considered to be a key ingredient in Chinese medicine.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Musk farming:
    Musk deer farming, which is practised in China and Russia, has shown that it is possible to extract musk from a deer without killing it, but the farming has proved problematic, with...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Tuk Kumm, Cambodian, Odimentary:
    Upon application I experienced a slight whiff of menthol and smoke atop a soft woody base, surfing above a berried sweetness. The smoke immediately dissipates and a...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Kind of an oblique reference to some ouds having the same effect as joints ;-)
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Me too, Abdul_Qa'im. Before I looked it up I was wondering if oud oils had kneecaps.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    .....
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Deermusk- from where does the musk originate? For how much are you selling what size bottle?
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Tahasayed- I guess everyone's skin chemistry is different. On my skin King Fahed didn't want to let go ;-) I have a few other muks from AO, all of which behave more "normally".
    Borneo 4000 lasts...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Since the scent from an application of King Fahed lasts a couple of days, maybe it's fair to think of it as costing 650 GBP for 6 ml ;-) That puts it in the same price range as, for example, some...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Renaissance Man:
    I'm not familiar with any simple oud attars, however I can happily recommend some nice oud blends.
    From Agarscentsbazaar.com
    Mukhallat Maliki Moattaq-10yrs old aged Cambodian...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    irrboss: I hope you enjoy your new purchase ;-)
    It's interesting that the same oud can smell differently on different people, and that different people can smell the same oud and perceive it...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Organic1- I haven't tried any Oudimentary oils.
    I'll be happy to post my thoughts about the KSSS when I receive it.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    For anyone who's interested, Oudimentarys KSSS is back in stock and will be ready for shipping this coming week.
    In answer to some questions Micah told me the oud is from a single distillation. He...
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    Any "natural perfumers" in NYC?

    I would like someone to make an infusion for me, preferably in the NYC metropolitan area. Of course I would reimburse that person for his/her time.
    If interested, please PM me.
    Thanks!
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    L'Heure Bleue question

    Some of the vintage bottles of l'Heure Bleue that I've purchased come in the brown box with tree, birds and man, and the lid lifts completely off the box. Others come in a brown box with the same...
  71. Social group question- public to private?

    Is it possible to turn a social group which is currently a public group, into a private group, or would a new group have to be started?
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    I just had the dismal experience of sampling 2 of agarwoodindonesia’s ouds. They are labeled “lndo Oud Dark” and “Indo Oud Light”. They vaguely resemble some ambers I’ve smelled, but not any ouds...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    In case there are people here who don't read the social group board:
    There is a photo of Abdul Qa'ims beautiful new son on his profile page. The look in his son's eyes is extraordinary. I would say...
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    Re: Which Niche Houses Are In Danger?

    List of endangered fragrances:
    http://perfumeoflife.com/index.php?showtopic=31286&hl=death&st=20
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    Re: Which Niche Houses Are In Danger?

    I was at the Guerlain counter at BGs today and their 2 SAs SWORE that Mitsouko was not going to be reformulated (again). Perhaps the amount of oakmoss it contains is already compliant with the new...
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    Re: Perfumes: MY Guide!!!

    All Contributors 5/5 (imaginative helpful)

    Thank you!
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    Poll: Re: Agarwood Demographics Poll Revised

    I'm envious of you, Merbert! Anything particular you've found especially pleasing?
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    Poll: Re: Agarwood Demographics Poll Revised

    I wasn't trying to prove anything, irish. I was pretty sure, for example, that most oud wearers live in large, sophisticated cities but I was curious to see if there were any who live in rural areas....
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    Poll: Re: Agarwood Demographics Poll Revised

    HDS1963
    Have you smelled really good quality oud? Cheap ouds smell nasty, but "quality" ouds vary a lot in their scent profiles. They may not be to your taste, but a lot of people are turned off to...
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    Poll: Re: Agarwood Demographics Poll Revised

    gandrasta: Have you checked out:
    http://community.basenotes.net/group.php?
    AND
    do=discuss&discussionid=14&pp=10&page=229http://community.basenotes.net/showthread.php?t=206040
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    Poll: Re: Agarwood Demographics Poll Revised

    jrd4t- Network sports TV counts as the arts if the sport is ice dancing ;-) If it's football or baseball, maybe public sector? ;-)
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    Poll: Re: Agarwood Demographics Poll Revised

    Hope that bumping this will divert attention from the messed up initial poll. .
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    Poll: Agarwood Demographics Poll Revised

    Do agarwood lovers fall into a narrow demographic range?
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Incidentally, I was familiar with the file- it was kindly sent to me by Al Qurashi because they were aware of my interest in agarwood. I recognized it's title when I visted your blog. Al Qurashi also...
  85. Thread: Synthetic oud

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    Re: Synthetic oud

    Some people are their own worst enemies.
  86. Re: The land of heaven the perfumery raw material

    Arabperfumes.com has some high quality Malaysian oud. I just purchased their Oud Maliki and am very pleased with it.

    Leathery, animalic, salty, edgy, potent, wild, medicinal

    The scent profile...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    You have the source, right on your own blog.
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    From the Cites Heartwood report:
    "Identification of products such as oil would seem to be impossible without the use
    of laboratory techniques. .......

    In consideration of the findings of...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    From Cropwatch report:
    "Traders reliably distinguish eight agarwood grades (CITES 2004) on quality, but complications arise concerning botanical origins when one considers that a particular...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    "Dear M---------,
    The name "agallocha" is an old species name that is now called malaccensis.......

    Robert Blanchette

    --
    Robert A. Blanchette, Professor
    Department of Plant Pathology
    1991...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    RichFragrance:
    From "Review of Significant Trade Aquilaria malaccensis", Nov. 2003
    Singapore reports difficulties in distinguishing A. malaccensis from A. filaria, (although it is highly likely...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    RichFragrance: If you're looking for the oud poll see my 3/18 post at 3:08 AM. If you'd like to take it and post your answers click "go advanced" to add your attachment. The file can be uploaded as...
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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

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    Re: Agarwood (oud) oil!

    Great work, abubakr! Especially the descriptions ;-) Thanks for your effort and for the ratings. Well done!
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    Would anyone actually do this

    Just thought I'd test it out. When you click on the link it downloads to your computer. You can add a comment under an oil, such as a description or weather you like/dislike it. Then you can upload...
  96. Re: Real Oud, Real Musk, Real Ambergris -- What Amazing Aromas

    Because abubakr_al-misky is such a modest guy he's not going to say that he sells ouds, mukhallats and attars. He's an extremely honest guy and his prices are exceptionally reasonable. His evilbay...
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    Re: Need Recommendations!

    This site:
    http://theperfumedcourt.com/
    sells small quantities of many different fragrances.
  98. Re: Small problem with transferring fragrances.

    Try changing the angle of the bottle you're pouring from.
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    Re: Help opening a vial of Archipelago!

    1) Sometimes putting a bottle with a stuck cap in the freezer for a while works. Here are a couple of other things I've tried with success:
    2) Run a Q-tip wet with alcohol around the edge where the...
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    Re: Suggestion, for a mostly natural perfume?

    The perfume oils I've purchased from agarscentsbazaar.com have all been beautiful and longlasting. The website can be a bit intimidating because there are so many choices. Look under "florals" ....
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