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When did you buy it?
I do not see it there now...
I think to try subbing some real jasmine absolute for some of the benzyl acetate. Also, 1 or 2 drops of vanilla absolute @ 10% dilution.
5 drops of rose otto @ 10% dilution.
And like Jamie...
Oh Yes, Brilliant!
I forgot that one...
Weight is always the *best answer... ;-)
I can only add:
Aquaflor and PA's Marine and Ozone Key accord:
From PA's Website:
Smelling my reseda body IFF, the first thing I get is green peas. I have not smelled reseda flowers though for a comparison. I have smelled Hyacinth flowers, which make me sick/headache-y.
I think that you should make some solid perfumes with the materials that you like, to enjoy their beauty for yourself...
I's suggest to blend those materials diluted in alcohol first, to come up...
Do you say that you have Cedrela Odorata in an essential oil? Might I ask where you obtained it?
Olibanum EO will be shorter lived than the resinoid... Me thinks...
I went away on vacation for three days to places like this:
And other American Southwest destinations...
When I came back to my Citrindol that I set out on my black BBQ in the blazing...
Quite accidentally I stumbled upon a great Feijoa formula, making something else... :-)
It could have a lot of water in it. Which might cause problems.
"Extracts" are often water based, because they are for food instead of Perfumes, and some do not play well or dissolve into...
Won't find extractions from these:
Custard Apples (soursop, cherimoya, sugar apple)
Sapote family fruits (sapodilla, mamey, black, white)
I'm afraid it's not quite that simple, Jamie...
You must work with Moles of weight per item.
For an Indole Schiff Base, you must use a mole of Aldehyde with two moles of Indole.
Not hydroxy, just Citronellal.
Make it yourself, like I do...
I don't know why we couldn't have figured out what it was, given it's name, of course now it makes sense since we know now...
Arcadi says: "Citronellal/Indol schiff base is Citrindol Firmenich"....
That is REALLY FABTASTIC!
Charabot/Robertet samples are usually about 1.5 ml. They're the tiny little screw cap bottles/vials.
Overnight in freezer. Lab filter paper is best. You could try two coffee filters though.
Maybe this will help...
Garage sales, REALLY! I want to live in your neighborhood...
Nice, santalyl acetate...
Warmer.... but it's still messy...
Don't know, but I just asked him for you. We'll see...
Like David Says, I will echo. Preferred is Perfumers Alcohol.
Vodka (grain, or Potato like Spirytus) could work, only if it is 190 proof or higher (No 150 proof please.)
Likely what is diluted...
Coriander is simply code for linalool... that's all...
Mumsy, You should smell my TNT perfume, a Fresh Tuberose headspace flower scent. And I'm working on finishing up my Fresh Gardenia headspace flower scent.
Remind me if I send you a package to...
I fear that this zombie thread was written by a member long gone and forgotten.
They only posted 11 times, and last in 2011.
Sure you *can*, and what would come out later would depend upon what you placed it with, it's much like using ten accords to make a perfume... Qty of each determines the outcome.
hmmm, maybe some weeds, herbs, pine trees? ( the train ride itself...)
I did look for substitutes last might, and the closest I found was Neryl Acetate for Nerolidol, and Cis-3-Hexenyl Acetate for the Cis-3-Hexenol. But really, you'll end up with a...
I'm so sorry, I should have checked stock here in the USA before I shot off my mouth to mention a seemingly hard to obtain material. I didn't bother to look, because I bought mine from PA, and...
Very Nice! Great Job, and Hearty Congratulations!
What I do with resins is to simply weigh and place into weighed alcohol, let dissolve, shake, repeat, then freeze and filter. I usually work at about a 25-75% ratio of resin to alcohol, or at...
OK, well maybe Orange Power Givco, and a touch of rose key accord, and alpha ionone.
Basil is mostly Linalool, which won't stay on the strip for a few days.
Oooh, I like that combo.
But really, I was thinking Orange Power Givco, - one and done,...
Yes, Kharismal Super = Hedione HC.
Yes, harder to find hydroxycitronellol and cyclemax in small qty.
I thought we had a seller of hydroxycitronellol, as PA had sold it, but I guess not now.
In general, the uncreative low quality products from perfumery companies in the late 1990s and throughout the 2000s
This is the reason that *I BECAME* a Perfumer... and the time period that I...
Seriously? Who even HAS or sells Creosote?
(Except me when I tincture the Mojave desert Creosote Bush...)
And even that is probably NOT the same thing...
Just use the real stuff.
Dihydro Eugenol to partner with the others.
Are you smelling more cinnamon, or more clove, or more something else?
Since Polarome is out of business, Juan and I are curious to know if anyone has come up with a replacer formula for Animalid....????
But Honestly.... Just use real castoreum and make a hot infusion/tincture of it. and you're done, and it's cheap and easily had from trappers suppliers like Kishels.
Got a Rotary Evaporator?
Whiskey Lactone plus Oakwood CO2 would be a good place to start if you want to build it yourself....
See, everyone even us Pros get confused sometimes... ;-)
hydroxyol = hydroxycitronellol (instead of hydroxycitronellal)
Yes, It is quite expensive indeed...
The best use I may have for it is a Schiff base.
After reading the Amber Xtreme demo formula booklet PDF online, I saw that Demo #1, had both a Lilial AND Lyral base listed, and that the appendix had a Lilial replacer formula.
I wrote to the IFF...
This is the Vetiver that is the best, IMO, that's why I made sure that Christine had it for sale.
Reading the First Formula in the Presentation from IFF, it uses Lilial base and Lyral base.
The Lilial replacer base is in the appendix, but the Lyral is not, and I cannot seem to find it on the...
David, What do you think of Pinoacetaldehyde?
Then I don't think that you need SG to weigh accurately when weighing and blending. :-) PK
Hi, I don't know the reason that you would need SG on something before blending, what would drive you to ask the question?
In case you DO need to know, many times you can find SG on the TGSC...
TPMQ Civettal and the 6-Methyl Quinoline are certainly not the same. Civettal is much more animalic civetty...
In reality, TGSC just might be the broadest spectrum choice of materials in small qty of all of our choices for aromachems.
Where did you buy from?
I'd buy @ $8/oz. but Vigon has it down @ $1500/Kg. Hence I only have a sample.
edited: That's a price which raises questions... Did you get a solid at...
Vanilla extract is not for perfumery, but for food only. That's why it fails you.
Your vanilla blend in jojoba is like almost pure vanillin crystals dissolved into Jojoba to be a liquid. You...
Buy it FROM - TGSC -
This is their pricelist for US Ship to addresses. The Blackberry will be at the top of the page in the link...
David, ths OP is concocting a fragrance on a website which custom composes personalized scents. The interface only allows six choices in the composition.
Have not seen a MHC replacer either, only MOC replacer, Nizan.
There is no such thing as Vanilla EO. Only absolute. What are you actually using?
Also, which vetiver type? From what locale/country?
You are diluting the materials when you make the solid,...
The TGSC blackberry base sold is outstanding.
Cassis Base 345B
Are three possibilities for mango ingredients to augment the TGCS Demo formula.
But also, you need to noodle around here on BN DIY, as there is a...
This just came out this week.
I'd add Beta elements, rose elements, and sorta depends how closer to...
I'd have to ask them for the safety data sheet. but they are closed, and we have a 3 day weekend, No guarantees I'll remember on Tuesday... ;-)
David, Thanks also for that one!
Ah, Thanks for that digging Alysoun!
One of these days when I have a boatload of money, (or a friend with a GC,) I have several vintage bases made by different suppliers that I have samples from, that I'd get analyzed. I do have a...
There is a MOC replacer available, but I don't know exactly what it is. Might be EDC...
Later edit after requesting Docs from Supplier for MOC Replacer from IFF
Contents of MOC Replacer:
I don't actually know... but could be,...
What do you think makes Kiehl's Original Musk tick?
Any ideas on which musk(s)
Just tell them to cook it in alcohol, while they're at it...
*sometimes* 1 drop equals to .02 grams. Sometimes more weight. Sometimes less.
*SORT OF* - 1g equals 20 drops. -ish...
See if that helps out...
Why Yes, I probably *would* consider BPA as a base note for sweet florals?
"Natural" is always defined by the opinions and presuppositions and prejudices of the person using the term.
Except that the PSH site is under maintenance, PSH has a terrific Leather base.
From my PK Perfumes Facebook Posting, May 14, 2015
I have both of these, well, I have the 6-methyl-5-hepten-2-one, likely what you mean...
The 6-methyl-5-hepten-2-one is a cross between Benzyl acetate and greeny grassy lemongrass. and medium to...
Here's what I have available to smell:
Tobaccarol F / Tabac Dodecane
PA Tobacco Key Accord
They all have a place, just depends on how you want to use...
How about some Hercolyn D in there too? Or just plain Hercolyn...
Sorry to slightly misdirect this thread, but placing this here as background for you Chris: Coriander and Linalool %:
And by "African", I am assuming Egyptian...
Many of my vintage perfumery formulas state Geranium African, if that makes a diff to you Jamie. (Which it might... teehee)
But I will have to agree...
It's likely based on an Ambroxan styled product, or Fixateur 505, in a blend with some musks.
I just added up the Linalool oxide numbers and rolled it all into that which I purchased from PA.
And now smelling it, I'd say that to halve the Linalool oxide and Halve the Alcohol C-8 would be...
I just put in 0.58g of Linalool Oxide, and 0.58g of Alcohol C-6.
We'll see what it does to this already nice accord...
later edit: I'd say halve the Linalool Oxide.
Clearly, the strength we find in it is because of the doses of C-8 aldehyde and Cis-3-hexanol. Conversely, If we see the Ald C-7 dose from the GC, WOW! That's a lot as well.
So, Cyber, I think you...
It's a really nice formulation, Thanks...
I asked my question #2, because I could not see anywhere that Aldehyde C-8 was listed in the GC you shared.
I see the C-6 @ the 0.32 you used for the...
Yes, actually, quite a number of my photographs... Plus Jaime and Arcadi
Questions about your conversion and estimates between the GC and your formula:
1. With 3 Linalool Oxides listed, Is there something in your formula that you were actively trying to sub in for any...
Probably relatively equally strong. I say that because I only have the Guaiacol here at a 5% solution, to compare with the 100% 4-Methyl Guaiacol.
They have slightly different profiles. 4-Methyl...
I enjoyed visiting their old storefront.
I purchased their enfleurage processed Tuberose and Gardenia. Just Lovely.
I had the gardenia GC tested.
It seems odd to me to have a result that shows...
Can't say that I have noticed smoke out of the EO...