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    Re: Givaudan Odor Value Map

    Thanks for your reply Jamie, this is a very useful chart as well. (I think the rarity of the Givaudan chart intrigued me.)
  2. Re: Does anyone know a source for tolu balsam?

    Does it need to be the essential oil? White Lotus has a nice absolute 50% in alcohol. Otherwise I see that Sunrose offers a Tolu essential oil.
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    Re: Givaudan Odor Value Map

    Thank you for checking Paul, it's quite understandable that it's not available for distribution.
    Scent and chemistry is an amazing book, I will have to look at that chart.
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    Re: Givaudan Odor Value Map

    Wow, Paul, thank you for your efforts!
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    Re: Yellow Flower Note

    Nice article, thanks for sharing!
  6. Thread: Esters

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    Re: Esters

    Thank you David!
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    Givaudan Odor Value Map

    Does anyone happen to know if the Givaudan Odor Value Map is available to view anywhere? I did a google image search to no avail, so I suspect it is not publicly available. Thanks :)
  8. Thread: Esters

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    Esters

    I came upon this article online. I am curious if specific aromatic materials need to be included to prevent hydrolysis of esters on the skin? I would be very interested in the input of our chemist...
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    Re: making a water perfume?

    It looks like there is vetiver hydrosol available. I don't have any personal experience with it, however it may be of interest to you?
  10. Re: Bittersweet: an interview with Ralf Schwieger on the gourmand

    An extremely interesting read! I would love to read more interviews like this.
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    Re: Yellow Flower Note

    Agree on the naturals. I smelled a lovely Cedrat that had a floralcy too.
    Ylang and saffron are yellow (in appearane and odor) too, but in different categories to my mind.
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    Yellow Flower Note

    Thinking about aroma chemicals contribute to the special "yellow" note for yellow flowers (yellow rose, yellow freesia, yellow mimosa, etc). Beta ionone is one. Any thoughts?
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    Re: Diluting solid materials

    Back when I was working with oil based perfumes, I diluted a bunch of materials in fractionated coconut oil. I learned the hard way that fractinated coconut oil can go "off" (despite seeing it...
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    Re: Diluting solid materials

    Good info, thanks David.
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    Re: Blending methods

    I forgot to mention an important issue when looking at scales: I would not get a scale that has an auto shut off feature (unless you can overide it). If the scale automatically shuts off while you're...
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    Re: Blending methods

    I second this recommendation. I actually have the i401 though I think the i101 would be a great first choice. I purchased it from Old Will Knott. I recommend this store highly, their customer...
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    Re: Diluting solid materials

    Thanks. I guess my question is: is there ever a need to dilute in DPG instead of alcohol, if the material is soluble in alcohol and you are working exclusively with alcoholic perfumes? Is there an...
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    Diluting solid materials

    I tend to dilute my materials to 10% for experimenting in formulations. With powdered/crystal materials, I know many use a diluent such as DPG or IPM. If working exclusively in alcohol based...
  19. Re: WonDAROMA podcast Episode 11- Ingredient evaluation with Paul Kiler

    Hi Christine, the iTunes link says it is not available in the US.
  20. Re: Fragrance Longevity & Quality Oils and Bases - a beginner question

    Hi Kate!
    I would definitely suggest starting with the sticky at the top of the forum. It contains a of information, which addresses many of the questions you are asking. Enjoy! :)...
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    Re: The Ultimate Amber game

    What wonderful news about the bases and Arcadi Boix Camps items. So very looking forward to trying them!
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    Re: The Ultimate Amber game

    I did not participate in this project, however I just added ambrarome from PSH to an amber composition I felt was getting too sweet and veering into candyland.. It really gives it a hint of ferral...
  23. Re: Has anyone else got the book Le Livre Du Parfumeur?

    Thank you for that suggestion, I did not know about the parcel forwarding service.
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    Re: Percentage math question

    Huh?
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    Re: Percentage math question

    Thank you, David.
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    Percentage math question

    I diluted my cyclogalbanate to 10% in alcohol. Whew, that is powerful stuff! If I would like to make this into a 1% solution, would I take the 10% solution I already have, and make a 10% solution...
  27. Re: Has anyone else got the book Le Livre Du Parfumeur?

    Unfortunately the museum does not ship to the US. I may consider ordering from the FNAC website, but I'm not going to get my hopes up, as it says it takes to a few weeks to dispatch, I'm wondering...
  28. Re: Has anyone else got the book Le Livre Du Parfumeur?

    Thanks Mumsy! That book review is what started my search :). Have you used that best book library site? I ask because saw another site that claimed to have the Felix Cola book but was very spammy and...
  29. Re: Has anyone else got the book Le Livre Du Parfumeur?

    I know this is an old thread, but I was curious if anyone knew where I could purchase this book? I've been searching for a copy for quite some time! I've checked all the usual sources (used book...
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    Re: Orris root absolute

    I just noticed it on the White Lotus website:

    http://www.whitelotusaromatics.com/product/orris-root-absolute

    (edited to add: I just noticed it is US shipping only, sorry.)
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    Re: Palisandin Group Buy

    SOLD! (I'm not hard to convince, though :2vrolijk_08:
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    Re: Mousse de Saxe

    What exciting news! Many many thanks to you Christine and to you too Perfumekev! Perfumers Supply House is so wonderful!!!
  33. Re: Problem with Liberty Naturals Ambrette Seed CO2

    I'm not sure if you've seen this thread, perhaps it may help: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/282130-Ambrette-Seed-CO2-in-Alcohol
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    Re: Damaged book

    Thank you Paul this is very helpful information, I appreciate it. I do have an antique book "Odorographia", which I believe did have the spine glued to the signatures of the book, and every time I...
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    Re: Damaged book

    Thank you Dmitriy.
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    Re: Damaged book

    I was hesitant to post because it was not directly related to perfume formulation. However, since it is a perfumery book I use often and I find useful (Cosmetics Fragrances and Flavors by Louis...
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    Damaged book

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    Hello, my perfume book is broken between the first page and the title page as you can see in the photo. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with repairing this kind of damage? I was...
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    Re: Delphol HC

    This seems to be what I'm smelling. I'm not getting the delicate aroma that other people are getting, I'm getting more of the celery- herbal element. I'll probably order more just to compare. Thanks...
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    Delphol HC

    My Delphol HC sample at 10% is very sharp, almost herbal, not a subtle peachy floral hedione-family like material as I've seen described. I'm trying to determine if my sample has gone off (I got it...
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    Re: Can Hedione go 'off'?

    I have some hedione HC that has not been refrigerated. It still smells good to me. Will be off note present as that off cheesy- dairy smell?
    (I do have some regular hedione that developed that...
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    Re: Opoponax supplier?

    I used to have the essential oil, I didn't use it that often. It's an interesting aroma though.
    I did not check out perfumers world, thank you for the suggestion
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    Re: Opoponax supplier?

    How exciting that you were having Auram make you those bases! I would certainly be interested in a sample(s) if available! I do wish his company sold small quantities, his book has me worked to a...
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    Re: Opoponax supplier?

    Excellent suggestions Jamie! I do have the Appell book, i'll be checking the formulas you mention. I think most of the formulas are done by his system to blend by molecular weight so I'm sure the...
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    Re: Daily routines to keep the nose clear

    Regarding nasal sprays, I've read some claims that Zicam spray (with zinc) can cause loss of sense of smell. Apparently Zicam took the item in question off the market, but I would exercise caution...
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    Re: Daily routines to keep the nose clear

    Barring a physical ailment, I find that sometimes the best way to "cleanse the palette" for the nose is to take a break from smelling and wearing fragrance. It is hard when it is a passion of yours,...
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    Re: Opoponax supplier?

    Thank you.
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    Re: Opoponax supplier?

    Hi Paul. Right now I am just looking for a bit of opoponax to dilute and experiment with, less than an ounce.
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    Re: Opoponax supplier?

    Aha, thank you Jamie, this is interesting stuff!! I would love to be able to purchase these traditional bases, am I correct in my assumption that many are no longer produced? Do you know of any...
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    Re: Opoponax supplier?

    Thanks Adam. I saw the one on Mandy Aftel's site as well, and I hesitated for exactly the reasons you mentioned. It seems to be quite hard to find!
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    Opoponax supplier?

    Does anyone have any suggestions for a supplier for Opoponax, (or an oppoponax base) ? I'm fairly certain I would want the absolute or resin. I am in the US. Thank you!
  51. Re: What is Birkenknospenol please? German translation to English

    Does this mean I can photograph all the French perfumery books I've purchased and actually read them! Oh!! :)
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    Re: The diy lab

    I'm loving this thread. I currently organize my collection alphabetically (with the naturals and synth in seperate sections). I noticed some people organize by category (wood, rose, etc etc). I'm...
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    Re: Mmm... wee

    My Sandalwood Oliffac sample has quite a "pee" smell to it, (since I only have one sample, I'm not sure if it is a batch issue or if that is the way the material always smells.)
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    Re: Pure Poison Christian Dior powderiness.

    In addition to the excellent advice already provided, have you compared the effect of Jasminum grandiflorum, which has a different aroma than jasmine sambac?
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    Re: Powerful and opaque

    Good points, I do believe the effect to which I refer is the combination of strong ingredients and very diffusive ones.
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    Re: Powerful and opaque

    Yes, and opaque can also be gentle :) I'm thinking of "powerful and opaque" at the same time.
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    Powerful and opaque

    I'm curious what you think contributes to the very "opaque" feeling prevalent in designer perfumes. The powerful "perfume-y" feeling with the monster silage that you can practically taste. Strong...
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    Re: Your top 10 perfumery raw materials

    Thanks David, I must get some!
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    Re: Your top 10 perfumery raw materials

    Good to know they smell similar, thanks David.
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    Re: Your top 10 perfumery raw materials

    Hi Irina, I know this is a very old thread but do you know where I can purchase vanillin ex lignin? (I love the smell of books, old bookstores are wonderful...we had a local one that closed and I...
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    Re: Removing scent from skin?

    A ha...I've done this with garlic, I can't believe it did not occur to me to try it with aromachems. I will remember for next time! Thanks!
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    Re: Removing scent from skin?

    Great idea...I tried it with a stinky material and while it did not remove it completely it helped a bit.
  63. Thread: question

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    Re: question

    Hello,
    Have you read through the "stickies" highlighted at the top of the forum? The stickies contain a wealth of great information for beginners (and non-beginners). I think this information would...
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    Re: Removing scent from skin?

    I'm so sorry Paul, do you still feel that it absorbed and it is not just your finger that smells of Furfuryl Mercaptan? I hope it fades soon!
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    Re: Removing scent from skin?

    It's not for the skin, but there is this spray called "Zero Odor" that works well for pet - related odors, etc. The label says it "changes odor molecules into non-odor molecules". I'm not sure what...
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    Re: I need the help of a perfumist/"nose"

    If you are unable to do the GCMS, perhaps there are some other things you can do. Do you have access to a good perfume shop in your area? Perhaps the sales associate can sniff it and help figure out...
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    Re: Clearwood™ Award

    I do love Clearwood, it has such a pure patchouli-earthy aroma. I can see it being used in a patchouli- based perfume to accentuate the earthy rooty components of patchouli, or in other...
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    Re: Removing scent from skin?

    Oh no, that stinks! I think I will get some gloves if I venture into use of that particular ingredient!
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    Re: Removing scent from skin?

    Ugh, hope it fades soon Paul!
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    Re: Removing scent from skin?

    I previously tried olive oil and dish soap and it worked a bit, but the material was so strong, the scent lingered. Good idea about the hand lotion!
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    Re: Removing scent from skin?

    I'm answering my own question to say I just tried heavy cream and that has been the most effective so far. Still interested in other ideas though!
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    Removing scent from skin?

    Does anyone have a clever way to remove the scent of spilled aroma chem from skin? I had a spill with a very high impact material and none of my usual tricks are working.
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    Re: Animalid replacement?

    I am also interested in an Animalid replacement.
  74. Re: Hypernosmia and Aroma Materials that You Perceive Differently Than Most People

    I like Methyl Tuberate, it smells creamy and a little bit of pencil erasers to me :) I did not notice the celery component but I'm looking forward to re-evaluating it with that in mind, particularly...
  75. Re: Hypernosmia and Aroma Materials that You Perceive Differently Than Most People

    How interesting, celery is so benign to me. I've read of reactions to ISO e super that suprised me too, but perhaps not as extreme?
  76. Re: Hypernosmia and Aroma Materials that You Perceive Differently Than Most People

    Hm, I've evaluated it in 10% dilution..it smells not at all like armpit (fresh or stale) to me. I am curious though, if I am going to dilute it further to 1% and see if it smells of fresh armpit....
  77. Re: Hypernosmia and Aroma Materials that You Perceive Differently Than Most People

    I completely agree with you Christine...I so fascinated by psychological and association differences in preference of fragrance :)

    But what I am trying to describe is more of a physical...
  78. Re: Hypernosmia and Aroma Materials that You Perceive Differently Than Most People

    Do you know the "internet viral" photo of blue and black dress that many people saw was white and gold? I feel like aldron is the olfactory equivalent! I love my animalic materials, but this just...
  79. Re: Hypernosmia and Aroma Materials that You Perceive Differently Than Most People

    Okoumol smells like aldron's cousin to me. Sharp scratchy abrasive..itches the nose like pepper...but I do also get a very dry cedar woody odor.
  80. Re: Hypernosmia and Aroma Materials that You Perceive Differently Than Most People

    I am thinking more of the "chocking, its hurting my brain, unbearably screechy" physical-type response more than the "I don't like this scent because it reminds me of sweat or mothballs" type...
  81. Hypernosmia and Aroma Materials that You Perceive Differently Than Most People

    I'm curious what materials (commonly thought of as appealing) that you perceive as unpleasant?
    For example, I know most people perceive Iso E Super as a pleasant, gentle "velvety" aroma (as do I),...
  82. Re: My First Post! On the subject of ALDRON.

    Aldron is so overwhelmingly strong to me! Not sweaty or manly- animalic but SUPER DRY SHARP WOODY ROOM CLEARING. My husband and sons can barely smell it. They think I'm a bloodhound. (I may have...
  83. Re: Lyral & Lilial alternate (replacer) bases per application

    Thanks Paul, for sharing this!
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    Cuir HF Synarome

    Cuir HF Synarome. I just received this lovely material in an order from Perfumer's Supply House (great service, top notch!). Amazing rich leather with orris, spice, and smooth incense notes.
    It...
  85. Re: Musk note from Flex shampoo and conditioner?

    Interesting, I had not realized the Flex/Shalimar connection! Thanks for the information!
  86. Musk note from Flex shampoo and conditioner?

    I'm curious if anyone is familiar with the scent of long discontinued Flex Shampoo and Conditioner of the late 1970's?
    The fragrance, from my memory, was a Musk/Sandalwood/Balsamic and perhaps...
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    Re: Quelques Fleurs

    Thanks Cacio. What a shame when the original classics are re-formulated beyond recognition. I suspect the formula I loved was also not true to the original.
  88. Thread: T K Maxx

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    Re: T K Maxx

    I would pass out from joy if we had L'Aritisan at our TJ Maxx in the States. Tea for Two is one of my all time favorites and I sincerely hope the current formulation is as good as the original. ...
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    Quelques Fleurs

    Hello,

    I have lovely memories of Quelques Fleurs which I wore as a teen in the late 80's. It was a gentle and classic floral. I recently ordered some samples off of ebay (which I know can be...
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    Re: overpowering DPG

    Excellent info,...thanks Irina.
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    Re: overpowering DPG

    This is very helpful. Thanks, David.
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    Re: overpowering DPG

    Thank you, David. For purposes of diluting crystalline substances, or substances that don't disolve easily in alcohol, what is your preferred diluent? Or do you recommend having both on hand? (I...
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    Re: Alpha Terpineol

    Interestingly enough, I was just thinking how so many bathroom air-fresheners over the years have been lilac scented. I enjoy lilac but care has to be taken not to unintentionally conjure the scent...
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    Re: overpowering DPG

    Is IPM less likely to develop an off odor?
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    Re: Alpha Terpineol

    Without a doubt, my sample of Tilianol is more refined and less functional smelling than the one simply called "alpha trepineol". But it does still have that "note".
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    Re: Alpha Terpineol

    Thanks, David! Much appreciated.

    If anyone out there has the more floral smelling Alpha Terpineol, if you could please let me know where you purchased it, it would be greatly appreciated! I...
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    Re: Alpha Terpineol

    Thanks for your replies. (and thanks for the formula, Pharmacist Blender :)
    I have used alpha terpineol in some formulas and have been pleased with the material's contribution..I enjoy when...
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    Alpha Terpineol

    Hello,

    Most descriptions I've seen for alpha Terpineol describe it as "pleasantly floral and reminiscent of lilac", however my two samples are more pine-like than floral. I'm curious...how would...
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    Re: Anosmia and flat spots.

    This is a thread with a lot of valuable advice!

    I would add that I've experienced a "temporary anosmia" to certain odorants from trying to sniff them undiluted or at too high a percentage (its...
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    Re: Nirvanolide

    thanks, Paul. A musk confection does sound intriguing in its own right, though :)
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