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  1. Re: Synthetic/aromachemical suppliers in the uk

    Try these:

    http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/default.aspx in the US but ship to UK. Have used them before and was happy with items.

    http://www.hekserij.nl/index.htm in the Netherlands but...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Hi Farrah,

    I'm not sure if you're using 100ml as an example, for simplicity, but i certainly wouldn't make anywhere near that quantity of fragrance if you're just starting out. You'll waste so...
  3. Re: first time scent creation using essentail oils - need some advise

    Hi,
    I get my bottles from here: http://www.naturallythinking.com
    Got my pipettes and small vials from eBay.
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Hi Green Tea,

    Although Bshell and Chris have answered your questions, I just thought I'd add my experiences to the conversation.
    I didn't order any pre-made kits, nor have I been on any training...
  5. Re: Question about the best way to learn blending?

    I dilute, then blend. I find that the best way for me as it's easier to work with smaller quantities - hence not wasting so much expensive oils.
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    Re: My Fragrances vs Professionals

    If it was easy, it wouldn't be fun!! There's a real sense of achievement when you work on a formula, turning it from something that was originally 'smelly' into something pleasant and 'wearable'.
  7. Re: received some amazing rare absolutes from hermitage oils!!!!

    I have a Honey Ab from Hermitage oils and that doesn't dissolve in alcohol either. It goes lumpy and forms solid lumps in the bottle of the bottle, almost instantly.
    Saying that, I also have a...
  8. Re: UK Suppliers of Fractions of Essential oils

    Don't know if this site sells them, but the guy is very helpful and might be able to point you in the right direction. Just send him an email, he usually answers quickly. I get a lot of my oils from...
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    Re: New to perfumery, need help.

    Sorry about the confusion. When I said all, I meant every oil you own.

    It's the diluted oils you want to use for experimenting. It's these that you'll be using day in, day out to create blends....
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    Re: New to perfumery, need help.

    I'm not understanding why you want 'sub ml measurements'. Diluting to 50% serves no purpose as far as I can see, unless you want your finished product to be 1 part oil to 1 part alcohol, which is...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Ok, thanks.

    I was just wondering as I've run out of some of the aromachems I got from PA and was going to order some more from Hekserij, but wasn't sure if they'd smell exactly the same.
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    Re: New to perfumery, need help.

    Hi and welcome,

    Smelling an undiluted oil is going to give you a massive headache, in my experience!! I would suggest diluting all your oils to 20% with alcohol and allow them to sit for 4-6 weeks...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    That's good to hear, thanks.
    I'm going to have to postpone my order til after my holiday now as I don't want it arriving while I'm away.

    Ok, I have a, possibly, silly question - Are aromachems...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Hi Spoombung,
    I've not put the order through yet as I'm still deciding what I need. The website isn't the best but it works. There is less choice but Herseij do have a few things that PA didn't...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Hi Bshell,

    Thanks for the link. Makes life easier. Didn't see that when I was looking on the site!
    I have to pay import VAT as the USA is outside of the EU. I guess the rules are different for...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    I've been so tempted to order another load of aromachems as I'm having so much fun with what I have, but the delivery and import vat from PA really kills it.
    Therefore I am thinking about ordering...
  17. Re: Benzoin confusion for a newbie....please help.

    Does anyone know why my Benzoin now smells very 'floral'? Opened the bottle of 20% dilution for the first time in a couple of months and got this very floral smell. Then opened the original and got...
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    Re: Newbee/Newcomer. Dumb questions!

    I find the dropper bottles a complete pain to use. It's all or nothing with them. I use a separate pipette for each oil. Each pipette is labelled and stored in a separate labelled bag. Works fine for...
  19. Re: A light hearted thread - things you learned the hard way.....

    I agree, geranium is bad at the best of times!!

    Result: Wet, sticky hand whilst agitating a myrrh tincture.

    Lesson 1: Make sure the lid is TIGHTLY on the jar before attempting to agitate a...
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    Re: newbie question

    Hi phillysoaps,

    I personally don't blend that way. In fact, I've never heard of doing it that way, and can't really see why it would be done in that manner. I'm sure someone else will be able to...
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    Re: Molecule 01 : is it THAT simple ?

    Hi Scentational,
    I have a bottle of Iso E Super diluted to 10% in alcohol. It was diluted about 4 weeks ago and the alcohol smell has pretty much gone so 4 - 6 weeks would be about right. That's the...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Well, that'll explain why I smell the Ambroxan so easily, but not the others. Yet another thing learnt today - it's been a good day for learning!

    Was going to read the report, but it's taking...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    BShell, That's interesting about the musks and going outdoors, as that happens to me as well. I have to keep my used scent strips in the utility room (as my hubby can smell the musks and has told me...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Something else learnt today!

    If that's the case, then the only lactone I have that has a coconut smell is the bicyclo, as the coumarin and c-14 don't smell at all coconutty to me, not even a hint....
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    They are both at 10% dilution. I really like them both, I was just expecting them to smell similar, but they certainly aren't. I love the vanillin too, I think I have a sweet tooth (or nose!) It's...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Notes found!!!!
    It was the Exaltolide, not Galaxolide. I'll try again tomorrow after packing kids off to school. I was really surprised I couldn't smell much - was looking forward to those! My notes...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Ok, will try that when my new order of bottles arrive - can't believe how many I have used. I was worried I'd end up with a bottle of liquid that smelt of nothing.
    The civet is now at 1% too and...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Ok, so I'm having a problem with the aldehydes. Diluted the C-12 to 1% and it still smells incredibly strong to me. Should I dilute further? Got the same problem with one of the others too, but can't...
  29. Re: Frustrating start to amateur perfumery re, obtaining materials

    I guess there isn't a demand for them over here. The UK prices probably couldn't compete with the USA prices anyway (even taking import vat and postage into consideration). There's a lot of oils and...
  30. Re: Frustrating start to amateur perfumery re, obtaining materials

    I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, or whether I'm just not as fussy as others when it comes to oils, but I'm not seeing the difficulty in getting oils or alcohol in the UK. Aren't we talking...
  31. Re: Frustrating start to amateur perfumery re, obtaining materials

    Don't panic, Mistralni seems to exist again!!! It does say it's undergoing maintenance, that must have been the problem!! Phew! Hopefully it'll be up and running properly again soon.
  32. Re: Frustrating start to amateur perfumery re, obtaining materials

    Shame you don't live closer, I would gladly sell you some alcohol and aroma chemicals that I have left, but posting it would probably cost a fortune knowing our postal system! I seem to have an awful...
  33. Re: Frustrating start to amateur perfumery re, obtaining materials

    I bought my perfumer's alcohol from Mistralni.co.uk but that website doesn't appear to be working anymore. Mistralie.co.uk is working but they don't sell alcohol, very strange. Amazon sell perfumer's...
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    Re: Can you buy Aromachemicals in the UK?

    I ordered 28 items altogether, but not all aromachemicals.
    Ok, the list was:
    Ambrettolide
    Ethylene Brassylate
    Exaltolide
    Galaxolide
    Aldehyde C9, C10, C11, C12 (x2) and C14
    Alpha Ionone...
  35. Re: Can Turkish Rose and Jasmine EO's be clear?

    I found that to be a problem, as I had a preconceived idea in my head what the oil should smell like, and that's what I then looked for. With the aroma chemicals, I have no idea what scent is linked...
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    Re: Can you buy Aromachemicals in the UK?

    Yeah, it was all fine. It took 2 weeks to get to me, although most of that time seemed to be spent in the UK customs. It was being delivered by Parcelforce, and I got a letter saying I had to pay 'x'...
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    Re: Can you buy Aromachemicals in the UK?

    I couldn't find anywhere either so I went with Perfumer's Apprentice.
  38. Re: Tincturing strength questions. Enlightenment needed please.

    I so know that feeling!!!! I think to myself 'I'll do this or that this evening' then by the time dinner is cooked, kids sorted for bed, school clothes etc clean, dishes done and washing sorted, I...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Thought you had run away and left us!!! :) Hope you're feeling better.

    I'm still working my way through the various chemicals, assessing them. Taking a while as I keep getting interrupted! I'll...
  40. Re: Tincturing strength questions. Enlightenment needed please.

    Sounds like you're having fun!!
    I have to wait til my birthday before I'm allowed to buy expensive scales (although it'll be a close call between scales or a new tattoo!) I'll settle for my 8...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Hi Kev,

    I only started about 6 months ago, by buying Mandy Aftel's book, which was an interesting read. I haven't been on any courses and I don't belong to any groups trying it out, except that...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Sounds more promising!

    My utility room currently smells of Vanilla, which is quite nice. I have eventually diluted all the aromachems. I must say I'm not having the Iso E super problem as it...
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    Re: calamus was banned?

    Bonni has commented on this before-
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/231539-Calamus-Sweet-Flag-Root

    I know it's banned for human consumption because it's supposedly a carcinogen (although...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Oh dear, sounds like you're not having the same fun I am.
    Have to say, the smell has gone from my house, a few open windows took care of that, I think it was mostly due to the packaging they were...
  45. Re: Serious Ambergris envy......... watch this

    Well Mumsy, if you're handing out ambergris freely, where's mine?? :)

    I actually can't be dealing with any more stinky stuff in the house. Can't believe how bad that Civet blend smells, and I...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Thanks Gido,
    I really appreciate you taking the time to help.

    I'll dilute the rest of the chemicals tomorrow as my scales arrived today. I tried shaking the c-12 but that didn't work, it just...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    A detergent factory! Lucky you. Wish that was what my house smelt of - it was more of a mixture of some sweet floral smell and something I can only describe as cat's urine. It was horrible. Needless...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    So, I have some more questions!

    I think this was answered above, but just to check, the civet and castoreum blends need to be diluted with dpg to 10% and then alcohol to 1%?? The same as the...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Gido, I keep her away from pretty much everything except a few bottles of diluted oils, and those tend to be the cheaper ones! My mission for this afternoon is to find and order a scale. It's...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Thanks Gido,

    It's like being back at school - only this time, the teacher is helpful!! :)

    I shall get to work diluting everything, although the crystals will have to wait as I haven't got a...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Ok, so it's all arrived and apparently I can't count as I ordered 28 items not 29!
    I am beginning to wish I had opened the parcel outside though as now the entire downstairs of the house smells,...
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    Re: making pure perfume?

    Hi,

    I just help myself to the scent strips from department stores. I take a few each time I go in and it doesn't take long to build up a good supply, (as long as you don't mind the store logo etc...
  53. Re: Your experience with benzoin and other sticky resin EOs...

    When I heated mine, I had to sit it in hot water for ages, and keep changing the water so it stayed hot. I was told that repeatedly heating a bottle of oil could ruin it, so I diluted all of my...
  54. Re: Your experience with benzoin and other sticky resin EOs...

    I have some of my benzoin diluted to 20% in alcohol and it isn't cloudy in the slightest. It did need heating first (as did the oakmoss and labdanum I was diluting) but with a little heat it became...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Ordered some bicyclononalactone, after JonB saying it had better longevity than coumarin, I thought I'd try them both!

    Just need to order some dpg and pipettes and I'm sorted.
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Ok, finally ordered it all. My 'little' list has turned into 29 items! Be an exciting package to receive though. Fingers crossed it doesn't take 6 weeks to arrive.

    And I think I'm going to need a...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Simplification is a good thing! The simpler the better in my case.

    Revised list:
    Ambrettolide
    Ethylene Brassylate
    Exaltolide
    Galaxolide
    Aldehyde C9, C10, C11, C12 (x2) and C14
    Alpha Ionone...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Thanks JonB, simple is good with me!

    Gido - No, No, No, don't say that! No, I wasn't aware there were 2 c-11 or c-12, even though if i had read the PA site correctly, it clearly lists aldehyde...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Thanks Gido, that works much better. Never thought to do it that way.

    My original list of 5 chemicals has now grown to over 20 chemicals!!
    Can hopefully order them tomorrow.
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    I don't have a problem with TGSC search, it's the Perfumer's Apprentice search I can't work out. I didn't explain myself too well, I got fed up not being able to find what you suggested because PA...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Yeah, I know the chemicals have synonyms, and I had tried every one listed on TGSC page for leaf alcohol but the PA site said no matches for any of them. I never thought to search by olfactory family...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Thanks Gido and JonB,

    I already have Oakmoss, labdanum, nutmeg, rosemary, sage, rose ab and vanilla ab.

    I looked at Ethyl linalool, Aldehyde C8 and Orange terpenes but PA says they can't be...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Ok, after many hours of research and reading, I think I have decided on my order:-

    Ambrettolide
    Ethylene Brassylate
    Exaltolide
    Galaxolide
    Aldehyde C9 - C12 and C14
    Alpha Ionone...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Ok, I'll add dpg to my list.

    Yes, I have pipettes, bottles etc. I don't have a scale yet, but think I'll get one pretty soon.

    I can see me spending a lot of time on tgsc website this evening....
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Advice noted!!

    Although now I'm confused - are you saying I can't just dissolve/dilute the aroma chems with perfumers alcohol like I do with the natural oils and abs? I need a different solvent?
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Gido,
    Just realised you updated one of the posts - so that answers the question about the animal blends I was talking about. I don't have any animal tinctures, and am unlikely to be making any in...
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    Re: Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Simmo, I haven't ordered any yet, but I have iso e super on my list.

    Thanks Gido, that's a big help. I had ethyl vanillin, ambrettolide and galaxolide already on my list, but shall be adding some...
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    Help with selecting aromachemicals please.

    Hi,

    I'm looking to put in my first order with Perfumer's Apprentice and since I have no experience with aroma chemicals I was hoping someone could help.
    I have a list of only 5 at the moment, but...
  69. Re: Begginers Questions - First DIY attempt today

    Hello,

    I haven't been doing this long myself, but here's what I do.

    Firstly, I mix my oils in the bottle I am using to store them, usually. I have used a glass beaker in the past and have not...
  70. Re: DIY Amber - from scratch - no premixes blend - help!

    Just thought I'd mention that Hermitage oils sell Clary Sage absolute.
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    Re: any ideas for a bluebell accord??:)

    Do you mean hyacinth? I've seen hyacinth absolute in a few uk online shops. Don't know what it's like though.

    Penhaligon's make a 'Bluebell' Eau de Toilette, if that's any help.
  72. Re: DIY Amber - from scratch - no premixes blend - help!

    Hi,

    I've not been doing this long, so can't help with the amber problem (although I'd be interested in what others have to say about it), but as for Vetiver - I really like my bottle of eo. To me,...
  73. Re: So I created something I think is wonderful.

    Wow Wooznib!

    Sounds like you have indeed created something wonderful!
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    Re: Pumpkin Pie anyone?

    Thanks for the help.
    I've made a note of the aroma chemicals you mention, David, so will have a look, Thank you.
    I am also toying with the idea of waiting a while, saving some money, and putting in...
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    Re: Pumpkin Pie anyone?

    Thanks Masha,

    I can't find Butter CO2 extract in the UK, and Eden Botanicals has a $100 minimum order for overseas orders, so that's out of the question.
    Any one know where I can get it in the...
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    Pumpkin Pie anyone?

    Hi,

    I'm looking to create a pumpkin pie accord for a perfume I want to make. I know you can buy pumpkin pie fragrance oil but I wanted to make my own, using naturals if possible. I have the spices...
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    Re: Help with diluting Vanilla Absolute

    Ok, I'll give it a go in water and add a small amount of alcohol to preserve. Didn't really want to but any dpg in case it didn't work anyway. I'll only dilute a small amount of ab so if it goes...
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    Re: Help with diluting Vanilla Absolute

    Thanks for the help Gido.

    I just poured the dilution into a clear beaker and it is quite a dark brown colour, so I'm guessing some of the ab has dissolved. I'll just leave it sitting in the bottle...
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    Re: Help with diluting Vanilla Absolute

    Thank you Hirch!
    As soon as I started diluting it (and it started sticking) I had a feeling I should have been using water, not alcohol. I'm glad I only used 1ml now and not the whole bottle. Do I...
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    Help with diluting Vanilla Absolute

    Hi,

    I recently got some Vanilla Absolute from Aqua Oleum - its a thickish brown liquid, certainly pourable. I looked through posts on here and found a couple about diluting vanilla. I read that...
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    Re: Iso E Super and Molecule 01

    Simmo,

    It says on the Cotwold site that the Lab equipment and essential oils are only available to those who have completed a level one perfumery course. Not sure how they would check that though....
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    Re: What do I do with it?

    Thank you for your replies. The Oakmoss bottle is completely full to the brim, its a 10ml bottle, so I can't pour alcohol into it and I can't get it out of the bottle either, not in its current...
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    Re: What do I do with it?

    Thank you for your replies. The Oakmoss bottle is completely full to the brim, its a 10ml bottle, so I can't pour alcohol into it and I can't get it out of the bottle either, not in its current...
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    Re: What do I do with it?

    Thank you for your reply. I don't have a hotplate, so would immersing it in warm water work? Will they become liquid enough for me to measuring them using a pipette, or do I need some other type of...
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    What do I do with it?

    This is probably a really silly question to most of you, but I'm stuck so I'm going to ask it anyway.
    I bought some Oakmoss EO and in my naivety I assumed, as its an oil, that it would be liquid...
  86. Re: anyone know supliers of uk small glass atomisor perfume bottles in small bulk? cant find any!

    Ebay have some if you look about.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Set-5-Refill-Empty-Perfume-Bottle-Spray-Atomizer-15ml-/280592732496?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4154a15150#ht_1789wt_1139 - from...
  87. Re: also where can i get small vials in uk?

    Holland and Barrett sell 30ml amber blending bottles. I use them, work well for me.
  88. Re: does anyone know a good quaity tuberose abs in uk?

    Hello,
    I've just put my first order in with hermitage oils, due to arrive tomorrow.
    They do Tuberose but I don't know what the quality is like.
    http://www.hermitageoils.com/tuberose-absolute
    ...
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    Re: Plum Essential Oil

    Not an essential oil but a fragrance oil, don't know if it would work.

    http://www.luminescents.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1214
  90. Re: Benzoin confusion for a newbie....please help.

    Thank you so much. Will check for suppliers now.
  91. Benzoin confusion for a newbie....please help.

    I am looking to buy some Benzoin to add to my scent collection but after searching the internet for hours, am totally confused.
    I understand (i think) that there's 2 types - Styrax Benzoin from...
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