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  1. Re: Out with it.. what is the worst blend you have ever made?

    I can absolutely confirm that the scent of Aeroguard, is jasmine, rose and tea tree oil. Don't ask me what the hell I was doing mixing them, I can't quite recall but it did end up in a body balm I...
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    Re: Makking solid perfumes

    I make skin salves so maybe I can help. Cocoa butter has a low melting point and a silken, easily applied consistency. I've not noticed any salve I make to have a noticable scent from the cocoa...
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    Re: Great Free PDF of a book

    Wow! There's $300 saved and can now buy me some aromachemicals. Nice find, I'm very grateful.
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    Re: Anosmic to rose, I think

    Yeah I found that. I have an EO and a C02, the C02 is much cleaner without the funk. The EO can at times smell like blood and bone, so I use the C02 exclusively now. Its a love hate note for me. I...
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    Re: Anosmic to rose, I think

    Okay, so the original mixture that went to mud has been sitting for a few more days. Two days ago it was still mud with some very odd (cookie dough) phases as the rose absolute was having a tanti...
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    Re: Anosmic to rose, I think

    Yeah, its not one of my favourites thats for sure. Wonder if I canuse it to scent some handcreme or something.
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    Re: Anosmic to rose, I think

    Thanks guys, dont have any aromachemicals at the moment so I will have to wait to try this experiment. All I can say is that my geranium blend smelt nice before I put the Rose in it, now its an...
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    Anosmic to rose, I think

    I've had great difficulties using my rose absolute because basically I cant smell it. I dont think its the supplier or the batch because all the other items I got were excellent from Hermitage. But I...
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    Re: Dazzling the Natural Perfumery Priestesses

    I cant help you with the synthetics but I doubt you will change their minds. Their desire to use naturals only seems like a philosophical point and they sound pretty fixed in their assumptions....
  10. Re: My Dune inspired fragrance

    No. But then I have a very limited collection of materials at present. Just a handful of naturals and nothing else. Still yet to even buy the basics in synthetics. Care to share your impressions of...
  11. My Dune inspired fragrance

    So Yesterday at work I was just tooling around and stopped at a perfumery to have a sniff. I remember at one stage owning a cheap perfurme that I loved and everyone used to ask me if it was Tendre...
  12. Re: Petitgrain, the natural that ruins everything

    Thanks for that I'll give it a go. It's always good to have a look at someone else's composition (there you go, nice regular word without getting all elitist) to understand how they view a material....
  13. Re: What are your favorite non-floral heart/middle note ingredients?

    I'm not in love with it either, don't like anything 'hippy'. but I can't deny its indispensible nature in perfume. I find just 10% in a cedar mix and it supports and rounds out the woods in a way I'm...
  14. Petitgrain, the natural that ruins everything

    I love the smell of petitgrain on it's own but have so far failed to include it in any blend. It's just so obnoxious, it stomps big wet woody feet all over anything I mix it with, and then turns to...
  15. Re: What are your favorite non-floral heart/middle note ingredients?

    Ginger C02, tends to sit more as middle than top note for me. Very warm, peppery and lingering
    Cedars, they don't tend to stand out on their own but add a nice backnote to other naturals
    Patchouli,...
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    Re: Lilac saga 2014 . enfleurage time again

    Cant wait to see if your lilac shea works out. Good luck. I tried enfleurage with murraya flowers but the humid climate turned everything to mould...
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    Re: Home study courses for perfumery?

    I started with naturals mostly because I didn't want to be bothered with lab equipment and various solvents from the get go. It just seemed more accessible to do what thousands had done before me,...
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    Re: Leather, now what?

    I've tested my mix again after resting overnight, very happy with this on late drydown it has something of real leather, but I do think it needs some musk or animalics to bring it alive. Off to the...
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    Re: Leather, now what?

    Okay. The other problem then becomes sourcing a relevant solvent, how does one find out the solubility information for the more common chemicals? I understand they are all sourced from various...
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    Re: Leather, now what?

    So I'd like to use some synthetics but I hate working with alcohol. Mostly because alcohol based sprays just do not last on my skin. It doesn't matter whether it's a commercial perfume or a homemade...
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    Re: Leather, now what?

    Okay so I reworked this one. I wanted it drier and edgier, so I took out the softening elements like vetiver and redid it with the strident herbal notes then filled in what was missing. I think...
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    Re: Leather, now what?

    Will do. Liking the bandit-variation, idea as a starting point. But I think I really want to tweak the original formulation to make it more horse sweat and less powder. It's a bit too polite as it...
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    Re: Leather, now what?

    Well, I'll update since I let this sample sit for a year. It's better than ever although a good deal more powdery in the drydown than previously. I've used it all up just dousing myself in it. Never...
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    Re: Good place to start on............

    As a hobby soapmaker I can tell you that testing fragrance in soap (cold process, hot process, melt and pour) particularly will be a long hard road. Many essential oils accelerate the trace of soap...
  25. Re: How important is the qualiy of fragrance oils?

    Well vetiver, lavender and patchouli are inexpensive to buy as essential oils even if you go for a great quality so you may as well buy the naturals of those. Haitian vetiver is often touted as being...
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    Re: Leather, now what?

    Thanks Chris, I did carefully record the formula in every incremental step and wrote notes on what each incarnation smelt like. Looking back I see I have frankincense in there which surprises me...
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    Re: Leather, now what?

    Thanks. Nice idea. I think I will do that.
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    Leather, now what?

    I have been working on for the past 8 weeks or so a leather accord using only naturals. I had some stinky stuff that I thought was irredeemable but did, in some moments have a vague reminiscence of...
  29. Re: Can I blend two oils? Taifi Rose + Frankincense

    Neglecta is a variety of frankincense, the one most often recommended for perfumery. Frankincense has many varieties sacra, neglecta, freyeana, etc...
  30. Re: How hard is it to get into fragrance creation?

    I tinker and its expensive and fun to do that. Depends what you want, if you want to sell and wow the world you'll need professional training. Otherwise these's the tinkering route which is...
  31. Thread: BPAL dups?

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    Re: BPAL dups?

    They are different strengths depending on the material. Some are more overpowering than others. I find Jasmin to be very overpowering and I only bought 5mls. I use it diluted at 10% but even then its...
  32. Thread: BPAL dups?

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    Re: BPAL dups?

    We're getting a bit off topic here, but maybe someone else wants to know too.

    I've bought all my resins as crude resin and diluted them myself including benzoin. I'm diluting in oil and find most...
  33. Thread: BPAL dups?

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    Re: BPAL dups?

    Local specialists in out of print books. They were quite common titles for the time so the price was reasonable. I believe you could find them in most major libraries too. If not the original then...
  34. Thread: BPAL dups?

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    Re: BPAL dups?

    The problem with BPAL for aussies is the shipping, even if you join decant circles it will still be expensive in order to try enough fragrances to find one you like and possibly want a bottle of....
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    Re: How long do essential oils last?

    Some do better than others. I had a sandalwood that was almost 5yrs old and it got better with age. I've yet to have one deteriorate And most of mine are at least 1yr old, but then I dont have a lot...
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    Re: A pattern to Notes?

    Unlike paint though, there isn't that clear cut formula like with colours. Primarys plus black and white gives you every colour in the spectrum, kind of thing. But to answer your question about...
  37. Thread: BPAL dups?

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    Re: BPAL dups?

    My first reaction was....why on earth would you want to dupe those horrible scents? I was into BPAL for a while and despite sampling over a hundred of their scents I found nothing to really recommend...
  38. Re: What Essential Oils/aromachemicals do you consider the most important to perfumery?

    Didnt realise this was a revived thread. He answer s redundant.
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    Re: always absolutes?

    I think there are very few perfumes that smell identical to certain plants. But the human brain is a wonderful thing, we can smell crushed lavender leaves, lavender eo and synthetic lavender perfume...
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    Re: What category of scent is this?

    It is dense and linear, medicinal in the vial but my skin amps sweet in everything so it actually smells like powder on me pretty quick. After a very short lived burst of citrus I get mainly baby...
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    Re: Assistance please!

    There's quite a few companies who sell small amounts of these chemicals to DIYers, check the suppliers list. Yes you can use both or you can go fully synthetic but then you'd need a large array of...
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    Re: Assistance please!

    You will not be able to make anything that smells like a brand name fragrance without aroma chemicals as almost all of them are entirely or partially synthetic rather than essential oils. That...
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    Re: What category of scent is this?

    I start off with usually 3-4 naturals that I think work together, put it away somewhere for at least a week then reassess and add maybe another 1-2 components, rest again. This one is now about 6...
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    Re: DIY vs Commercial Quality

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that even a lot of natural perfumes contain some element of synthetics in order to polish them and make them viable as a commercial proposition?
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    What category of scent is this?

    In my tinkering I started off with a patchouli, geranium and ginger accord that I've then played around with and left to sit for several weeks. My blend now contains....

    Base - Patchouli, Atlas...
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    Re: An essential oil chypre

    Atlas cedar is a very soft wood and tends not to feature in a blend even in large quantity. In fact I find that to be true of all my cedars I can't get them to feature they just become a support for...
  47. Re: Recreating violet/powder notes without synthetics

    Well here's my 2 cents.

    Vetiver is very powdery and sweet on me. That could come down to my skin chemistry though.
    I also find oakmoss to have a powdery musky quality in late drydown.
    Iris...
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    Re: An essential oil chypre

    I've not had a lot of success with making accords then mixing accords together. The results are really unpredictable and if you end up with something lovely or horrible its quite difficult to know...
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    Re: Weird Ingredients- help!

    I have santalum spicatum and as much as its a nice wood smells very little like mysore sandalwood. It has none of that creamy character. Spicatum is a bitter, dry peppery wood that doesn't smell like...
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    Re: Weird Ingredients- help!

    Since this is a synthetic scent, you should assume those notes are marketing descriptors for something they have created with aroma chemicals rather than ingredients. They could be made by a...
  51. Re: PA's rose, jasmine, sandalwood key accords - realistic/natural? Hermitage oils - rose

    I just got my Rose Bulgarian absolute from Hermitage. I can only compare it to a bulgarian rose otto I also have and a distilled rosewater I have which I am certain is rosa centifolia going by the...
  52. Thread: Jasmine

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    Re: Jasmine

    Jasmin sambac absolute - Hermitage Oils

    The first thing that strikes me about this is the heavy tea note. Not as in Jasmin tea but as in green, bitter, tea. The heady floral aspect only makes an...
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    Re: Accidental O De Lancome

    So a bit of an update. 4 days on and ylang ylang is no longer a banana it's died down into a soapy floral which the strong herbals seem to need. It smells more O than before and is an ok scent....
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    Re: Oakmoss dilution lost it scent?

    It's in FCO. I haven't asked anyone else yet, will try that. I did wonder if it was just me that couldn't smell it but a little mix which I blended 2 weeks ago smells very strongly of it still. I'm...
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    Re: Oakmoss dilution lost it scent?

    Thanks, but I'm making oil based scents. So there's something about oil which makes it lose it's scent?
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    Oakmoss dilution lost it scent?

    I'm wanting to find out if it's just me or if this can happen fairly easily. I made a 20% dilution of oakmoss from absolute in oil (5ml). Stored this in a 10ml bottle with a tight fitting lid and put...
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    Re: Accidental O De Lancome

    I retested it this morning and decided I wanted the aromatics to be more prominent. My skin turns everything to candy unfortunately and the ylang ylang is all banana custard this morning, althugh it...
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    Accidental O De Lancome

    I was playing around with the last of my ylang ylang, added some vetiver, herbs, touch of oakmoss, citrus top and an accent note of basil. Well it's not lancome but something with that fresh, green,...
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    Re: Flashpoint of fragrance oil and mailing???

    And yet thousands of passengers a year routinely ship alcohol based perfumes internationally by air both in carry-on and hold luggage. Duty free anyone?
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    Re: Ideas for non-citrus topnotes

    My bergamot is sicilian, and doesn't smell remotely like any bergamot I recognise. :confused: But the other thing is, even my little lot of EOs smell different on a daily basis to me depending on...
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    Re: Ideas for non-citrus topnotes

    Maybe my 'fresh' associations are a little weird? I'm a big fan or herbals, anything that smells like something I might crush in a herb garden is ambrosia to me. Mines a steam distillation, yeah it's...
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    Re: Ideas for non-citrus topnotes

    I've taken this advice onboard and so far am really loving basil, peppermint and star anise. Very nice notes and easily available to me. (Aromachemicals aren't really easy for me to get right now but...
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    Re: Fresh, light vetiver fragrance

    Try basil. The anise-like top notes really soar and its got a light woody undertone. I haven't blended that combination yet but a quick test sniff determined they might like each other. I find...
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    Re: Tobacco, Hay or Tonka?

    I have worked with some crude resin's already and that's a pretty familiar process for me now. Labdanum resin left me with a fair amount of precipitate I had to filter out as well. So you'd classify...
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    Re: Tobacco, Hay or Tonka?

    All votes for Tonka then. I must admit I was never attracted to that scent before and I've never worn a perfume that contains it. All the more reason to get it because I might be missing out. (I'd...
  66. Thread: Frankincense

    by ClaraAus
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    Re: Frankincense

    I tested mine diluted at 50% and it was still extremely overpowering. It actually blends very well with cedar and herb notes like patchouli. You could also use it in place of your wood note in a...
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    Re: I did it! First fragrance I'm happy with

    No. Worries I took it to mean one day I might create a masterpiece so all good..:thumbsup:

    It's 5 days old now and it's gone through a few interesting morphs along the way. It had two solid days...
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    Tobacco, Hay or Tonka?

    I realise that they are all entirely different notes but I'm trying to decide. I don't know what any of them smell like but since I'm making an order with Hermitage for some Jasmin it seems a stupid...
  69. Re: Help a complete DIY newbie to get startet : First attempts Molecule 1 & 2 but more! + EU Suppli

    From one newbie to another with regards to the natural essences. You'll be surprised, delighted and often disappointed at what happens to natural essences when you combine them. You might like the...
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    Re: Woodsy fragrance - Too sharp/harsh, ideas?

    If it goes into a candle it probably won't be diluted but used neat directly into the wax, or possibly diluted with a carrier oil. I don't think you can mix ethanol with candle wax.
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    Re: I did it! First fragrance I'm happy with

    Its not very sophisticated I'm afraid. Just...

    Lavender, anise, cedar, thyme & vetiver.

    It smells like a herb garden in the summer, but pretty.
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    Re: I did it! First fragrance I'm happy with

    Yes Mumsy it is. At last something with discernible notes that work together! Doesn't sound hard, I stand corrected though.
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    I did it! First fragrance I'm happy with

    After a lot of fiddling with simple accords and learning the various properties of the eo's I have on hand I've finally come up with a simple fragrance that I really love the smell of. All my early...
  74. Re: Urine-Like Notes, Sniffing Distance, and Skin Chemistry

    Atlas cedar has a strong cat pee note in early drydown. I don't know which compound in it is responsible but its there and even wore when paired with patchouli.
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    Re: Frankincense help please

    I have Oman frankincense at home and it is clearer, less camphorous with a slightly stronger cedar note than the other varieties I have. I'm not sure it's really all that woody though. I still think...
  76. Re: Trying to replicate Eternity (the ORIGINAL Eternity, that is)...

    You probably wont get close with EOs as the original probably did not use them alone. As already stated even professionals may not be up to that task. You could probably make your own scent In the...
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    Re: Contact reaction to benzoin tincture

    I've been handling just the other standard eo's that I have. No need to worry about it being a tell-off. That's why I posted here to get others perspectives on the situation. Clearly the ideal...
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    Re: Contact reaction to benzoin tincture

    Strength unknown dropped a small qnty of crystal unscientifically into
    10mls of ethanol and tinctures till I could smell it although it wasn't strong. Maybe about
    1 gm worth of crystal. Styrax...
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    Contact reaction to benzoin tincture

    So I made a tincture and then applied a dab to my skin to see what it smells like as it dries down. 2hrs later my skin is burning all over although I have no other signs of allergic reaction. I...
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    Re: Thickener for oil-based perfumes

    If you want a liquid one maybe try castor oil. It's very thick on it's own. But it is sticky, you'd have to pair it with something to alleviate that property. Perhaps a tiny amount of silicone (don't...
  81. Thread: Opoponax

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    Re: Opoponax

    Commiphora opoponax - Somalia, hard resin.

    Dark toffee coloured chunks looking like petrified wood. Burnt toffee and smouldering tyres, slight backnote of sulfur. The apocalypse.
  82. Thread: Frankincense

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    Re: Frankincense

    Boswellia frereana - Somalia, hard resin.

    Lemon yellow crystals. Pencil shavings, lemon, pine, eucalytus, clear, sweet and strong. Old fashioned furniture polish. Antiquarian bookstore.
    ...
  83. Thread: Benzoin

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    Re: Benzoin

    Benzoin - Siam styrax benzoides, Hard Resin

    Pale caramel coloured chunks resembling tree bark and quartz. Completely unrefined and not chemically extracted by the appearance of it. Straight up...
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    Re: Labdanum / Cistus / Rock Rose

    Labdanum raw resin, Spain. Scents Of Earth.

    I've found my scent soulmate, it's name is labdanum. I'm not an amber lover but this doesn't say amber to me. Strong with a huge hit of vanillic...
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    Re: Ideas for non-citrus topnotes

    Thanks for the suggestions I appreciate it. I realise now my collection is really short on green notes and I'll need to buy a few things. I managed to rescue the lavender disaster but sadly it took...
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    Re: Ideas for non-citrus topnotes

    Ok, NOT lavender. It came right in with heavy iron shod boots and stomped geranium into the dirt. Do not like lavender. Everything smells like Aunty Mary's soap. Gah! Back to the start again. Only...
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    Ideas for non-citrus topnotes

    While I like bergamot and it's bethren, really I do. They make everything smell really same-ish to me. I'd like to try some fragrance blending that doesn't involve citrus. I've got a little blend...
  88. Thread: Patchouli

    by ClaraAus
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    Re: Patchouli

    Patchouli dark -essential oil

    I've truly hated patchouli in the past mostly because it had a feral animalic smell in fragrances that I didn't like. A cross between BO and foot odour. But I'd...
  89. Thread: Oakmoss

    by ClaraAus
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    Re: Oakmoss

    Oakmoss Absolute - almost black\green and viscous.

    In concentrated form it smells like chinese herbs steeped and brewed to be incredibly pungent and bitter. Diluted I smell decaying leaves, damp,...
  90. Thread: Cardamom

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    Re: Cardamom

    Black Cardamon - dried pods, ground.

    Intensely smokey until the pod is broken when it spills forth citric, earthy spice notes. The different scents are quite confronting and invigorating. An...
  91. Thread: Geranium

    by ClaraAus
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    Re: Geranium

    Geranium Bourbon - Essential Oil

    Sweet, honeyed with strong rose overtones. Top notes of citrus, herbs and mint. Overpowering and extremely tenacious. Best suited to sweet blends with dry woods,...
  92. Thread: Perfume oil

    by ClaraAus
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    Re: Perfume oil

    I don't use alcohol at all. But you need it if you work with absolutes as I've read here they won't dissolve in oil.
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    Re: Sandalwood Perfume

    +1 what mumsy said. I made a basic scent containing sandalwood and vetiver and decided to add petitgrain. Rather than adding a light citric note as I expected the petitgrain turned the sandalwood...
  94. Thread: Perfume oil

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    Re: Perfume oil

    Absolutes are alcohol soluble, ethanol, possibly also DPG ( although I've not used this myself yet).
  95. Sticky: Re: DIY Suppliers List

    i'd like to add this supplier in Australia for lab equipment. I have not ordered from them yet so can't comment on service etc. they cater for basic lab equipment for institutional and public use and...
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    Re: Carrier oil?? and other questions :)

    Your questions pertain mostly to cosmeti formulation rather than perfumery. Since I have experience with cosmetic formulation I'll help as I can.

    The odourless carrier oil Is jojoba, a liquid wax...
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    Re: Self-Made DIY kit - naturals

    Ok, so revision #5 here. I've decided since I like green, bitter, citrusy scents I may as well focus my oil purchases around that for the time being. It's not like I need to create every kind of...
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    Re: How do I use essential oils safely?

    Reputable oil suppliers will list precautions on their site with the oils in question. But the information I believe you are looking for will be contained within aromatherapy texts. Not the light...
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    Re: Ylang Ylang / Cananga

    Ylang ylang 1st EO - i have a love hate relationship with this EO, the lower quality oils smell outright like antiseptic, very medicinal and turn to plastic or dental office in every blend. You need...
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    Re: Looking for a recipe

    If you love a certain fragrance then buy the fragrance. It will be the most cost effective way to enjoy your favourite. Formulating is for when you love fragrance in general and are inspired to...
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