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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: SOLVED!

    Thank you :)

    And I agree so much. There is a big big difference between the 'dupes' sold today and old local brands that started offering the masses an affordable version of luxury. Especially...
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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: SOLVED!

    I know how random is that :shocked: It's just we have this small drugstore around the corner, you know, the ones that are so crowded you cannot find a thing without knocking something down ;)
    I know...
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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: your help to identify it please

    You are so sweet, Mumsy :kiss:

    The good news is that I solved the mystery YAY :lolk:

    I went to our local drugstore, had a smell-around and found a battered old bottle of Nonchalance! ...
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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: your help to identify it please

    Thanks, Mumsy :) That;s why I was looking at Anhelo Avon. Do you happen to have some?

    Yes, I think Ma Griffe sharpness doesn't fit the bill. It also has too much of a 'signature' :lolk: dry-down...
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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: your help to identify it please

    Thank you for sharing, BaV, that is such a great story :) Mumsy shared something similar from the past, I can only imagine the nostalgia.

    (intermezzo sharing time ;)
    As I grew up in the poor...
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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: your help to identify it please

    Hi guys,
    I managed to get a pic and comparison with some juices like diluted absolutes and my Coty Chypre.

    37092

    After more reading my main guess seems to be Carven Ma Griffe EDC.

    Please...
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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: your help to identify it please

    Thank you both :engel017: It's not L'Origan, this one is much less spicy and not sweet in a vanillic way, more creamy coumarin tonka resin sweet. It's not Paloma Picasso either, no leather notes and...
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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: your help to identify it please

    Will do, later on today ;)
    Thanks lovely :kiss:
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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: your help to identify it please

    Hi guys :dankk2:

    I"ve done more digging and I'll add the NOT list
    Chanel no 19
    Chanel no 5 (I have a few versions)
    Chanel 1932
    (my hunch is that is no Chanel anyway, but maybe a cheaper...
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    Re: Mystery vintage chypre: your help to identify it please

    Thanks guys, very kind!

    Unfortunately I don't have enough to share. It's definitely not a big neon 80s floral, not much civet that I can detect either. No white musk components, nor honey....
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    Mystery vintage chypre: SOLVED!

    Hi,

    I have received a sample of a mystery vintage perfume. While I can pick up some of the notes I have trouble finding out which fragrance this is. It smells very familiar, a typical chypre base...
  12. Sticky: Re: Stickies are mainly gone, but please read this one

    Hi Grant,

    Thank you for the clean-up, it's so much easier to see the latest thread without lots of scrolling down ;)

    I agree with the members above: 1 subforum on the subject suffices.

    As...
  13. Thread: Sticky-mageddon

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    Re: Sticky-mageddon

    Hi Grant,

    A kind student/member informed me about your question. I hope I'm not too late to chime in, personal circumstances prevented me from posting earlier.

    With the help of members and...
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    Re: Disgusted by IFRA perfume regulations

    Just a reminder of an older topic I posted a good while ago that might be of help

    IFRA restrictions and EU regulations are NOT the same: some facts
  15. Thread: One Tip

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    Re: One Tip

    Cheechi, I've added it to this sticky:
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/393147-Welcome-new-at-DIY-fragrance-members!-Read-this-first

    My tip:

    DON'T have patience. DON'T slow down. Immerse...
  16. Thread: Apologies to DIY

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    Re: Apologies to DIY

    Just pm-ed you, I am so sorry for your loss :cry:
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    Re: QuiVí question on blending and making accords

    I find this a very challenging question and I get this a lot from my students too.

    The problem is that this is indeed a very costly hobby and you can only learn by doing and making mistakes.
    ...
  18. Re: DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    That's great to know, Graphite :thumbup: Please keep us updated when you have a site set up etc.

    Ow and what I meant is that you don't officially need to alter the (M)SDS to your own company...
  19. Re: DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    Guys, if I may ask: why would you re-invent the wheel and don't just forward the digital PDF you get from your main supplier directly? Or do you want to keep your supplier a secret?

    And Graphite:...
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    Re: Fragrance oil: price/quality ratio.

    In which country are you based?

    If you really are looking into saving dimes I would say skip the small distributors of FO's all together, these cater to small DIY soap & candle makers. Go to the...
  21. Re: Which Solvent for Scents for an electric Aroma Diffuser?

    :engel017::tongue: David, I hear you! :kiss:
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    Re: How has your year been?

    An extremely busy, interesting and very entertaining year.

    It's the year that I broke my record of writing grand proposals for olfactory research and writing in general (hopefully next year will...
  23. Re: Which Solvent for Scents for an electric Aroma Diffuser?

    David Ruskin taking a stand for the all natural camp... And I thought I saw it all, a true Christmas miracle :lolk:

    (and of course I agree with your points as usual)
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    Re: QuiVí question on blending and making accords

    +1 :thumbup:
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    Re: Google Hangout Saturday Jan 17?

    What a fun idea, like a quick blind sniff :thumbup: I would love to join, but I might have to cancel at the last minute due to some family stuff that are unsure atm.

    I'll send you an email ;)
  26. Re: DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    Thank you, Jan.
    I understand you are aiming to cover your bases as a chemical supplier.

    But from a cosmetic scientist/safety assessor point of view, other information is more important than what...
  27. Re: DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    Hi Jan, thank you for responding I will approach you personally after the holidays about the details. Right now the process you describe sounds a bit confusing, but I hope this thread will also...
  28. Re: DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    You just missed our blind sniff ;)
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/388617-Blind-nose-training-wrapping-it-up!
    But Mumsy has a nice one still going here:...
  29. Re: DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    Thank you, Chris. I have contacted Plushfolly, but didn't hear back and there is no information available on their site. I thought their stock must be 'educational grade', not suitable for making...
  30. Re: DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    That is a good starting point :thumbup:
    If you ever intend to sell, it's a wonderful habit that cannot be applied too soon, to gather documentation on all your materials directly from your...
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    Re: Self-proclaimed perfumers

    Thank you, Julian, for the kind words, you made my day :kiss: Keep up the good work and please do let me know if I can be of any help.
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    Re: Leather Base for Vintage Leather Chypre

    PSH is short for http://perfumersupplyhouse.com/ and Christine comes and reads here too :)
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    Thank you so much for chiming in, Newtothis :thumbup:

    The differences amazes me, I have some Pemou and it is definitely woodier. And I was surprised to hear that this one was a natural, it...
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    Re: Your top 10 perfumery raw materials

    Mine are in no particular order

    Frankincense resinoid (all and any kinds), because it gives grace and gravitas to anything and simply makes me happy
    Hedione (Firmenich), because it's a wonderful...
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    Your top 10 perfumery raw materials

    I thought it would make a lovely Friday topic ;)

    So what are the 10 perfumery raw materials you enjoy working with the most and why?

    (they can be natural, synthetic, blends, resins or other raw...
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    Re: Self-proclaimed perfumers

    Great point, David :thumbup:
  37. Re: Seeking Advice on an herbal rose accord with a leather/Amber base (animalics)

    This is really interesting, I will investigate too, see if I can find anything of use ;)
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    That sounds soooo yummy, I'm salivating here :2vrolijk_08:
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    Re: Self-proclaimed perfumers

    What an interesting discussion, thank you for bringing this up, it is a hot topic in the industry.

    Just like you Julian and DrSmellThis I am an advocate for open access education and information...
  40. Re: Seeking Advice on an herbal rose accord with a leather/Amber base (animalics)

    Great advice guys.

    1 question that might be of interest: I personally experienced that the combination of civet & castoreum can sometimes 'cancel' themselves out giving 'white smell', especially...
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    I totally get the 'mom & holiday' mode, dear Mumsy, I'm working like crazy trying to meet deadlines for my clients, while also shopping and making pressies pfff such is the life of a working mom...
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    That is interesting, Renegade.
    I was thinking about ordering a sample from PSH to compare as I'm running low on mine, as I don't use it as much, but now I have yours, so thank you.:dankk2:
    And...
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    Regenade & Mumsy, thank you for the reveal and such amazing stories! :kiss:

    I love comparing notes so much! I have compared your materials against my 'standards' and even with the aromachemicals I...
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    I too hope that everyone is okay.

    Let's do this! :)

    My reveal:

    My materials were a x-mas smell riddle: an orange filled chocolate in a x-mas tree, cos I had a sinking feeling we would...
  45. Re: Perfume manufacturing machines , durable, 70 liters per day

    So you want to build a fragrance manufacturing facility?

    I would suggest looking into ISO 22716, which is the new guidance for Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) for the cosmetics manufacturing...
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    Re: The Final Thread On Water

    I'm not David, but I wonder how do you come to the first conclusion?

    If I were to use SD alcohol at 80% I would buy it as such from a chemical supplier. Water is never added to the final product....
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    Totally agree, guys, the notes reading and comparison is definitely the most fun, most interesting and most helpful :thumbup:

    I agree with you Mumsy, these Shiff bases did murder on my nose and...
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    Irina's notes on #261, #467 and #934

    Thank you for sharing, Paul :)
    I actually meant the notes that you have received from us, that compare how our noses perceived your materials ;)
    Everyone please feel free to post yours here.
    ...
  49. Thread: Hedione effects

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    Re: Hedione effects

    Perfume is a cosmetic and all over the world cosmetics are regulated. The regulations and especially the implementation may vary, but they are there for a reason.

    I think it's reasonable to expect...
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    Re: Driftwood or Salty Accord

    Welcome! :)
    Did you see this sticky? Welcome-new-at-DIY-fragrance-members!-Read-this-first

    There you can see a picture on where the search button is for this forum
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  51. Thread: Hedione effects

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    Re: Hedione effects

    Mumsy, I totally understand and such is the path of an olfactory artist.

    Alas not the path of a perfumer.
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    Added https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/default.aspx after an excellent email exchange.They will also offer IFRA certificates of all their materials soon.
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    Hi Paul, did you mean last Wednesday or next week Wednesday December 10th? ;)
  54. Sticky: Re: Welcome new-at-DIY-fragrance members! Read this first

    I see new members :vrolijk_1:
  55. Thread: Hedione effects

    by Irina
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    Re: Hedione effects

    Just saw this and @mandaryn's reply and while I understand your sentiment, I have to disagree.
    As long as perfume is a consumer product that is created to be applied on the skin, instead of being...
  56. Re: IFRA Standards - Discussion thread (Temporary partial version)

    You mean a safety assessment? I can help with that, please contact me via my website irinatudor.nl or pm me your email address if you'd prefer.
  57. Re: Your Exaltolide may not be Exaltolide... really.

    I agree with you, David, that DIY perfumers are at a loss here. I'm so grateful to have a huge smell library to draw from and my notes on original high quality raw materials that the big brands use....
  58. Re: Your Exaltolide may not be Exaltolide... really.

    :tekst-toppie: Bill, well done!
    I am also addressing this issue to all my suppliers and am talking with Perfumerappreantice about documentation. They are really open to feedback, suggestions and...
  59. Re: Just started. Can I fix my fragrance and did I make a good choice of ethanol?

    A warm welcome, Gary & Bart :beer:

    I would recommend to take a look at this reference thread where I put together the links to threads that answers most questions, including those on ethanol.
    ...
  60. Re: Your Exaltolide may not be Exaltolide... really.

    *waves to Timon, great so see you here* :vrolijk_26:

    Great points everyone.
    Aromachemicals that are no longer captive (due to patent expiration for example) end up being made en masse in China...
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    Irina's demo blind sniff formula
    #244 pure 2440
    #351 10% 2390
    #778 pure 1232
    #261 10% 604
    #257 10% 580
    #793 10% 483
    #428 10% 459
    #814 10% 338
    #843 10% 290
  62. Sticky: Re: Welcome new-at-DIY-fragrance members! Read this first

    Thank you, Bill :vrolijk_26:
    Added http://aromachemicals.net/
  63. Re: Experimenting with EO/AC ratios & accord samples - what containers do you use?

    The best deal that I got when I started out and I bet the deals are even sweeter now ;) is to buy cases of 200 x 5 or 10 ml brown glass bottles that came with dropper caps (they were called...
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    Will post later or tomorrow :vrolijk_26:
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    The secret was in using trace amounts. A good heart structure with some 'sparkling' additions. The dry down turned out great, still smelling nice even after 1 month!
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    New week, new chances :)
    If anyone would like me to reveal the nature of the materials I sent you via pm, please lmk.

    And are you still interested in me posting a demo formula using all 18...
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    Re: Carrier oil to fragrance ratio?

    It really depends. I offer services especially for those small businesses that have a hands on attitude and do a lot of the things themselves, with my guidance. It saves a lot of costs in the long...
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    Re: perfume startup help

    I'm specialized in offering help to DIY perfumers that want to make the transition to running a successful independent perfume business. This includes help with safety assessment. If you're...
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    Re: Home study courses for perfumery?

    I also offer online distance learning in perfumery, customized to your level, needs and time. If you're interested, please contact me through irinatudor.nl
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    Re: Carrier oil to fragrance ratio?

    You cannot use rules of thumb when selling fragranced cosmetics to the public. You need to have a product safety assessed by a certified assessor as per the EU law. Warning on the label won't help...
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    Re: Carrier oil to fragrance ratio?

    Are you going to sell this?
    If for your own use only, then you can do as you like.
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    Re: Using FOs in perfume

    Glad I could help :) Good luck!
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    Added a few and awaiting response on my emails to several others. Will be back ;)
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    Re: Using FOs in perfume

    Uncensored advice: buy her the real thing. You can get samples or mini's at a better price than trying to make your own and failing.

    But if you do want to use the FO (I assume a dupe of Chanel...
  75. Re: DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    Thank you, Christine, I was about to contact you about this. Thank you, I'll add you to the list :)

    Mumsy, I'll do another thread on that topic (safety assessment). My goal is to do a few of these...
  76. Sticky: Re: Welcome new-at-DIY-fragrance members! Read this first

    You're most welcome, Angelick :)
  77. Sticky: Re: Welcome new-at-DIY-fragrance members! Read this first

    Great addition, David :dankk2: Priceless comment, very very important for all beginners!
  78. Re: DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    What do you mean, hun? Safety assessment for the finished fragrance? Or certificate of analysis of home/self made tinctures?
  79. DIY Suppliers with MSDS, Certificate of analysis and Declaration of Allergens

    I was looking into the sticky
    DIY SUPPLIERS LIST

    and saw that many suppliers are listed that are fine for educational purposes.

    But... If you are training/aiming to sell your fragranced...
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    Re: Extending Natural Perfumes

    I just read an interesting article on the matter that might be helpful which includes several different essential oils, full text here, for free:

    Repellent effect, knockdown study and...
  81. Re: Newbie question about order of scent addition to mixture

    Indeed no worries, you can do both. And if a question is asked very often, I'll add it to the 'newbie' thread. It keeps things for us 'oldies' interesting ;)
    Point being: we're here to help and...
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    Re: DIY Sellers: Figuring cost per bottle

    I have a database where the cost of each material is included (just like any other details on each raw material like CAS no, restrictions, toxicity etc). If you buy say 10 gram for 2 euro/$ (whatever...
  83. Re: Newbie question about order of scent addition to mixture

    + 1, exactly how I was taught. If some of the ingredients used at high level were stuff like citrus oils or hedione, I would add them to the crystals before the solvent, as they have good solubility...
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    Re: Naturals With Great Projection

    There, you found your niche ;) The problem is that the good ones (all natural perfumes) are very very very expensive. And some can be a bit challenging on the nose (stinky) or don't smell of...
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    Re: Naturals With Great Projection

    +1 So many stinky naturals, true wilderbeasts :D
  86. Re: Newbie question about order of scent addition to mixture

    Hi, There's been a recent thread on it:
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/380231-Can-you-use-too-many-naturals

    General advice to anyone new to the board: use the DIY subforum seach button, it's...
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    PK, so sorry for your troubles *hug*

    Renegade also kindly reminded me that today is Thanksgiving, not being American and all, I didn't realize...

    Anyways, it seems that the easiest way is to...
  88. Sticky: Re: Welcome new-at-DIY-fragrance members! Read this first

    Thank you for adding this, great tip :)

    I've added Bill's question to the OP, a very short answer and a few threads.

    hth
  89. Sticky: Re: Welcome new-at-DIY-fragrance members! Read this first

    A warm welcome, Angelick! :) And chapeau to you, perfumery is such a challenging endeavor on its own!

    I know of another perfumer that due to illness was temporarily blind: David Falsberg of...
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    As PK seems to be MIA as well, please send me your notes of his materials to me and I'll do the same as above.
    Thank you.
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    Notes on saponier's material #257

    NOTES ON SAPONIER'S MATERIAL #257

    RENEGADE

    1. Environment: Small room with a window and a door, no potent odours. Time and date: 26/10/2014, 22:15. Diluted to 10%. Dipped paper blotter about...
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    Notes on saponier's material #349

    NOTES ON SAPONIER'S MATERIAL #349

    REGENADE

    1. Environment: Small room with a window and a door, no potent odours. Time and date: 27/10/2014, 13:09. Diluted to 10%. Dipped paper blotter about...
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    Notes on saponier's material #814

    NOTES ON SAPONIER'S MATERIAL #814

    RENEGADE

    1. Environment: Small room with a window and a door, no potent odours. Time and date: 25/10/2014, 19:31. Diluted to 10%. Dipped paper blotter about...
  94. Sticky: Re: Welcome new-at-DIY-fragrance members! Read this first

    Thanks, Bill, that's a very good idea. I'll look and see if I can find the best or most relevant threads on that topic and add them tomorrow.
    Thanks again!
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    So it's 3 days later and I see PK posting in other threads so I'm glad to see that the internet problems have been resolved :)

    Please post the findings that have been sent to you regarding your...
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    Re: Ratio and DPG problems

    It's DiPropylene Glycol, a common fragrance solvent.

    For other basic questions and answers, please take a look at this ' DIY basenotes manual'. :)...
  97. Sticky: Re: Welcome new-at-DIY-fragrance members! Read this first

    For Angelique and all new members :)
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    Re: Vertical vs horizontal perfumes & accords

    Phew :vrolijk_1: I can be such a 'Sheldon' :rolleyesold: (major Asperger-nerd caricature from the tv show The Big Bang Theory)
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    Great to 'see' you guys, thank you for taking the time to post it all, Newtothis! I'm soooo intrigued :D

    PK, lots of luck with the cable/power problem, that must suck.

    Hopefully we can do a...
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    Re: Blind nose training: wrapping it up!

    Gentle bump for PK, Newtothis & Saponier :engel017:
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