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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? CLOSED

    Ok. If I can expedite my samples, do you mind waiting? I don't mind paying for it, this is going to be fun! I got yours and I picked some neat things and want you to have them...it's your call...
  2. Re: Question about suggesting notes with single materials

    I'm so into doing that!
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? CLOSED

    PK's is the one I am worried about, since, as far as distance is concerned, he is the closest one to me! If you either of you have not received them by the end of the day today please let me know and...
  4. Re: Question about suggesting notes with single materials

    It does appear that many formulations will use single AC's to give the impression of a larger concept. It reminds of a creative exercise I do from time-to-time: I randomly select fragrances that I...
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? CLOSED

    Hello all,

    Who at this point has NOT received my packages?
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? CLOSED

    Has anyone received my materials yet? I'm starting to get concerned...
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? CLOSED

    I have received all of my sniff samples! I can't wait to dive in,...it's killing me.
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Thanks Bill! I hope you enjoy everything. I am currently building up my inventory; don't forget that pre-ordering is available!
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? CLOSED

    Oops, forgot to mention that I've sent all my materials.
  10. Thread: Centifolether

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    Re: Centifolether

    Centifolether is one of my favorite materials as well. I have some available for sale, though not through my website yet. PM me if interested.
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Thank you! I did make the site myself but it is powered by bigcommerce. I have some background in eCommerce so it was a breeze to set up.
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    Re: creatingperfume.com

    I too, have never had an issue with the few orders I placed with them.
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Thank you all who have taken the survey! I have received some really wonderful results. The fact that some of the same materials keep popping is helpful. Some folks have responded with materials that...
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? CLOSED

    Update: None of my materials are diluted.
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    And I think I know which ones they were...lol
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    For those of you still interested, would you mind taking a short survey/questionnaire? It's short and to the point and would help me greatly!
    http://www.perfumersorgan.com/materials-questionnaire/
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? CLOSED

    Hey ya'll...I am still participating but have not been able to get this stuff in the post yet. My trip to New York has lasted longer than planned. I apologize. I should be arriving home this evening...
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Thank you Chris! I think you outlined precisely the points I am making...there are materials that I would consider flankers, in the sense that they are not available by most suppliers and even if...
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    This is a feature I am already building into my site. It is actually already there and the site is only about 1.5 weeks away from launching. It will allow users to pick a material and place a...
  20. Thread: Snow Notes

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    Re: Snow Notes

    I second Methyl Salicylate, but you might also try a trace of Methyl Benzoate. And I don't know why, but Armoise e.o. comes to mind when I think of what you are describing. Maybe combine the Armoise...
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Adam, you are right. However, you are not exactly my target demographic considering you yourself are a supplier. When you are able to carry the thousands of materials in existence then I would agree...
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Hello Christine! Thank you for your encouragement. I appreciate what you do and have no intentions of intruding into your space. Also, I think I need to affirm that I am NOT looking to do this out of...
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Well Ebanol was not the greatest example, but in a way, it proves my point. £30 is around $50 USD (I believe) and that price is only available at certain quantities. That's the problem, I have the...
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    I love the advice that everyone has put forth here...it's invigorating! Adam, I really appreciate your perspective on everything. What I plan on doing is not-unlike what other providers are already...
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Well a good amount of the materials are synths and bases. The idea here is that these materials are not readily available in quantities less than a kilo. They aren't rare, they aren't exclusive, they...
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel here...just make certain materials (aroma chemicals, bases, naturals, etc.) available to folks in practical and affordable quantities. Nothing exclusive, just a...
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    I have an initial list of about 35. There's no possible way any supplier could provide every useful material in small quantities. There's just so many, is that fact hard to believe?
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    Re: Becoming A Supplier

    Thank you for your insight. The model, as it is on paper, would be to supply those hard to find materials and if a new supplier takes it up as well we sell what we have and replace it with something...
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    Becoming A Supplier

    Lately I have been tossing around the idea of becoming a perfumery materials retailer/supplier. I know there are plenty of options available to us right now, and the growing selection of materials is...
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    Re: Realistic Pear aroma?

    Bill, thank you for sharing your thought on this practice. It drives me wild that some folks are essentially creating an inventory with samples. As someone who does buy kilos and relies on samples, I...
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? closes Sept 22nd

    I have more than enough materials/solvents and can definitely handle the shipping. I also have some materials that are less common and it might be fun for someone else to sniff...
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? closes Sept 22nd

    Pennsylvania, USA
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    Re: Blind nose training: who wants to play? closes Sept 22nd

    I'm in...
  34. Thread: Nougat Accord

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    Nougat Accord

    My fiancée wears Bvlgari Mon Jasmin Noir and there is something about the drydown/base note accord that is really striking to me. I have been toying the notion of a nougat accord, which this...
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    Re: Labeling Against IFRA

    So in essence, they've "got us by the short-hairs."
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    Re: Newbie + Chypre = Adventure

    Where is the Appell formula?
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    Re: Patchouli Soliflore

    I second this! Frankincense (Somalia) pairs very well with Patchouli and Habanolide.
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    Re: Order with Piping Rock - BEWARE

    I have never heard of Piping Rock...but it looks like they also sell vitamins. Not that this matters, but I generally prefer to order my materials from places that specialize in what I am buying.
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    Re: Funnel Recommendations

    http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aglass%20funnels
  40. Re: Fahrenheit formula and Paradisone availability?

    I have some Mayol. PM me if you want to try it out.
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    Re: New England Fragrance Artisan Salon?

    I'm in PA, and I am definitely interested! Your timing is impeccable! I was just researching this exact thing last night...
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    Re: Hexyl Cinnamaldehyde

    I have a sample coming from another supplier...will report back!
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    Re: Hexyl Cinnamaldehyde

    Thanks, I feel like I've been missing out on this! I certainly won't buy another thing from them again.
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    Hexyl Cinnamaldehyde

    So I very rarely use this material because to me it smells too much like a Red Hot candy. I hate it. Though I read odor descriptions of the material and nowhere do they mention this quality. Instead...
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    Re: Fragrance Record Label

    That's not enough information,...I think you left some information out...:wink:
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    Re: Fragrance Record Label

    Well, I'm going to a bank to ask for some money so I can try this. Shouldn't be hard to get, right?
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    Re: Fragrance Record Label

    I should also note that this all hypothetical. I definitely do not have the funds necessary for such an endeavor.

    I don't understand what is so confusing about this...it'd be like borrowing money...
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    Re: Fragrance Record Label

    Yes, but an artist/band does not need a record label in order to get involved with digital sales. Independent artists are already involved in that without having to sign to labels.
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    Re: Fragrance Record Label

    That is a VERY recent trend. Independent labels have been around since the 1960's. I would argue that most independent perfumers do not have the type of bankroll and skills necessary to do the things...
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    Re: Fragrance Record Label

    Absolutely nothing. But if the product doesn't sell, then they don't get paid. Of course the risk is always with the label, so confidence in the product is a must. This is all hypothetical, of course.
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    Re: Fragrance Record Label

    Well the label doesn't really pay for anything, they just provide the artist (band/musician) with these things up-front. Most (if not all) costs paid out by the label during the course of creating...
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    Re: Fragrance Record Label

    Would it work? Probably not. How would it work? Well, I imagine you could really take a lot of cues from the indie record label model with some adjustments...

    Discover talent through submissions....
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    Fragrance Record Label

    I was sitting around the other night with my buddy and we got to talking about independent perfumers. He seemed surprised that there was such an active population of independent and hobbyist...
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    Re: Buying Macerated essential oils wholesale

    Yes. You can. Please read before you ask you these type of questions. I appreciate your zeal but this information is easily found here. My advice to you is not to buy these materials diluted by...
  55. Re: Had My First Sales Event-- my experience so far...

    Let's see the final product! Congratulations!
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    Re: Green Tea Accord

    I wish I could get a hold of some of those materials!
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    Practice Briefs

    I try to formulate at least a little bit every day. When I don't have projects to work on I get a little bored and lacking in motivation. In an attempt to stimulate my creativity and motivation I...
  58. Re: Classic perfumery accords and other basic exercises

    Add the Grojsman accord to that list as well...simple yet useful!
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    Re: Buying Macerated essential oils wholesale

    I think the main thing that most of us find annoying is that many of the questions being asked have already been asked many times. And answered many times.

    Why is OP even considering buying...
  60. Re: Looking to make a DIY Aftershave. Advice needed.

    Are you intending this aftershave to be a water-downed fragrance? Is that what you're going for? A scented antiseptic?
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    Storing Concentrate

    So those of you that bottle your juice for distribution/sale, what do you store your concentrate in? Any suggestions based on experience? And then how are you going about diluting/bottling? Are you...
  62. Re: Making One's Own Molecule 01 (Straight Iso E Super)

    Can someone make this a sticky so it doesn't keep popping up every few days? Not to sound like a curmudgeon, but it's ISO E Super in alcohol,...it isn't that complicated.
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    Re: Pushing up Basil abs.

    I think methyl chavicol is one of the hallmarks of basil. So when I made my accord I used Toscanol and in an amount that didn't bother me. That's why I chose this route opposed to using any of the...
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    Re: Pushing up Basil abs.

    When I get home I'll post the formula. If you like the anise quality of basil you could try Anethole as well. I didn't care for it...almost too gourmand. My version is a very tame, palatable basil...
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    Re: Pushing up Basil abs.

    I used the methyl diantilis in place of eugenol and toscanol to give the impression of methyl chavicol. I did mean limonene. I am fond of the interplay between basil and citrus.
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    Re: Pushing up Basil abs.

    I made a particularly nice basil-like accord using Methyl Diantilis, Toscanol, Linalool, Citronellol, Citral, Limone, Linalyl Acetate, Guaiyl Acetate and other nice things. I should clarify that this...
  67. Re: Advice on Adding "Polish" to My First Fragrance

    Not to sound accusatory, but when you say you "sourced" about 60 ACs from Vigon, do you mean you bought them, or that you convinced them you were a legitimate business and they sent you 60 free 1 oz....
  68. Re: Advice on Adding "Polish" to My First Fragrance

    I love the enthusiasm, but why are self-admitted "newbies" trying to go commercial with their fragrances? In what world does this make sense? I've been at this for a few years and only after a few...
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    Re: Green Tea Accord

    You know, I have been playing with a tea accord using Cassis Base 345B and various citrus naturals/AC's, and I can see how that might contribute to the overall result.
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    Re: Green Tea Accord

    Agreed! I am trying to design an accord that brings to mind the smell of brewed green tea...I can't find another true-to-nature accord to compare it to. I WILL figure this out.
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    Re: Green Tea Accord

    You might be right. I am going to post it later when I get home. Aside from the obvious overdose of Ionone Beta, it's a decent formula. It is certainly headache inducing, but I believe it to be a...
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    Re: Green Tea Accord

    That is one of the ones I've used. Every version I've made smells like orange tic-tacs!
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    Green Tea Accord

    Hello all. I have been driving myself crazy with a Green Tea accord for the last few months. I just can't seem to get it. I have had great success using Ionone Alpha and Hedione to create a "tea...
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    Re: What smells say Thailand to you?

    Use some Paradisamide. Not sure why, but I want you to use that in your formula.
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    Re: Reformulation later?

    I'm sorry, but I just don't see how someone with no experience and a limited skill-set can possibly consider selling their creations. It sounds like you're looking for a get-rich-quick scheme and...
  76. Thread: Anti hero

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    Re: Anti hero

    Agreed 100%. I have a formula that is lavender based that uses coumarin to great effect, as well as floryhdral and it has some definite staying power.
  77. Re: Glass dropper/amber bottles cleaning and care.

    My amber bottles are only ever used for the same material so I don't clean them because they are never empty. As for cleaning my droppers, I use disposable plastic pipettes and they are one-time use.
  78. Sticky: Re: Don't Add Water, Glycerin or Jojoba to Alcoholic Perfumes

    Why would you? Glycerin is a humectant, does your perfume need a humectant? Jojoba oil is essentially liquid wax, why would you want that in your perfume? Sweet Almond Oil is an emollient, is that...
  79. Re: Propolis - various types from various places - long term experiment - samples welcome

    A local apiarist is going to be donating some propolis to my cause. I look forward to giving this a go.
  80. Re: A list of fragrance formulas i would like to see

    I've never once set out to duplicate someone else's juice. I understand it to be a proper learning method but I just can't be bothered. I would much rather spend my time worshipping my own creations.
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    Re: Alcoholic notes

    Green Cognac Absolute almost makes me thirsty when I smell it. My mouth waters.
  82. Re: Out with it.. what is the worst blend you have ever made?

    I make at least one or two blends a week that are absolutely horrendous. That is partially because even if I am lacking inspiration and have nothing specific to work on, I still force myself to do at...
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    Re: Notes that have a sparkling/tingling effect

    Aldehyde C-12 MNA is my go-to material for "fizz". To me it almost gives off a carbonated water type of feeling. That combined with something a little more fatty/oily (Ald. C9, Mandarin Aldehyde,...
  84. Thread: Chypre

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    Re: Chypre

    Which material are you specifically worried about when it comes to IFRA compliance? Bergamot? Oakmoss? Have you looked at the Givaudan bases for these materials? I use them regularly and have...
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    Re: Velvione killing my vetiver

    When I smell it straight from the bottle or on a smelling strip I basically cannot even detect it. When added to a blend I can definitely tell it is there. Try an A/B test and you'll see what I mean.
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    Re: Velvione killing my vetiver

    Maybe try adding a little vetiveryl acetate to accentuate the natural vetiver? If you are looking to emphasize a certain characteristic of the vetiver, like its spiciness, try something like guaiyl...
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    Re: Materials Wishlist

    Oh boy, I cannot stand anything Vanilla! I am however, a sucker for any woody/amber type materials.
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    Materials Wishlist

    Many of us small-time/hobbyist perfumers find ourselves limited to the selection offered by a handful of suppliers. Though places like PA offer a very large/thorough collection of materials, I find...
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    Re: Simple Le Male Musk Accord

    I have no experience with Traseolide...anyone ever had chance to play with it?
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    Re: Freesia accord

    Also, try adding a little Phenethyl Alcohol.
  91. Re: What blends well with Litsea Cubeba pure essentica oil? -HELP.........

    I really don't mean to come off as rude, but you do realize you are asking us to do for free what professional perfumers get paid for? Sure, it's ok to ask for suggestions, but to ask us to write...
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    Re: Ambroxan - I'm puzzled

    I'd agree. When I put Ambroxan at 5% dilution on a test strip I have to dispose of it in a trash can in a different room because it literally fills my entire space.
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    Re: Extend fragrance life

    Yes, please do not answer if you don't know for sure. :p
  94. Re: Perfume Formulas (found in Patent Applications)

    I highly recommend utilizing these resources when trying out a new material. Every time I get a new material, after I've had time to evaluate it on it's own, I always search for resources such as...
  95. Re: The "secret ingedients" in modern perfumes

    Ambroxan, Hedione, Norlimbanol, Benzyl Salicylate, Dihydro Myrcenol,...of course these are just based on my taste/experience.
  96. Re: Timbersilk - Want to make single ingredient perfume

    Why don't you just try it? Are you afraid it is going to explode? :coolold: Put the Timbersilk in your carrier and wear it. See if you like it.
  97. Re: Starting a Cologne line this summer need help!!

    Agreed.
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    Re: Perfume`s Ingredients

    I actually don't know the answer to this and am not familiar with the thread. I just evaluate each "note" in relativity to other notes. Though I would highly recommend keeping a log of your own...
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    Re: Perfume`s Ingredients

    Did you try searching the forum for answers to these questions?
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    Re: Rhodinol 70 - what is max use

    So you're looking for a lemongrass type scent? I can say that I accidentally made a lemongrass type accord with a blend of Citral, Geraniol, Methyl Pamplemousse, Galbanum and Aldehyde C-12 MNA. At...
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