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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    Thanks!!
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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    Where did you get your pear ester? I havenít tried this before but sounds interesting! I need some materials that can make an impact like that.
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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    Sent you a PM...
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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    Sent you a PM...
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    Re: Yes... its an Aventus inspired formula

    What exactly is the Appel method? I think I have heard or seen this before but cannot remember. Thanks!
  6. Re: Looking for non musk/woody amber base note ideas

    You are welcome! I find the Pineapple Base to be pretty versatile - funny enough I hadn't thought of using it in a gourmand. I added some to a citrusy aquatic and it is nice as well!
  7. Re: Looking for non musk/woody amber base note ideas

    The lavender abs from Eden Botanicals is of pretty high quality. I have some from CP as well and it is good. Personally, when I was working on a fougere I felt I did not need much lavender abs to...
  8. Re: Looking for non musk/woody amber base note ideas

    I get very little when I smell Javanol, as well as Sandalore. I can smell Ebanol and Bacdanol quite well, however. I have Javanol from PSH and is the only one I have tried, so perhaps I will get some...
  9. Re: Thread about less known or not so usual ideas about creating of creating perfumes

    Interesting! I too have been working on a fragrance with notes of cardamom. fenugreek, milk, bread, and sandalwood.
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    Re: Where to buy pre-made accords

    Just noticed that Perfumer Supply House now carries the natural accords from Palette Naturals:

    https://perfumersupplyhouse.com/product-category/palette-naturals/
  11. Re: Looking for non musk/woody amber base note ideas

    Perhaps I am anosmic to Javanol. I hardly detect it, even at 10% or even 1%. I use app. 0.5% or so in sandalwood formulas, though, since I have read a lot about its potency.
  12. Re: Looking for non musk/woody amber base note ideas

    Yep, I think it is the same as Furaneol. TGSC actually has two different sites that list it in their Suppliers page:

    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1029161.html
    ...
  13. Re: Looking for non musk/woody amber base note ideas

    Have you tried vetiver and/or patchouli notes? Also, I recently started using homofuronol and that lasts forever. It has a bread-like, caramel, burnt sugar scent that smells great. It would be sweet...
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    Re: Advice on formula

    You have some good materials to work with, and aside from what is already mentioned I would try much less lavender and more musks. A vital site many use here is The Good Scents Company. Try Googling...
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    Re: How to compose?

    After countless trials and failures I have made 2-3 fragrances I would consider selling. It definitely takes a lot of time! One big thing I learned when composing is that, in my opinion, there are...
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    Re: Perfumerslab.com -- Small beginnings

    Itís cooll, wee all make misstakes every now and then. :laugh:
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    Re: Perfumerslab.com -- Small beginnings

    Oh, the irony. :lolk:

    I do want to point out I misspell things all the time and am only completely kidding around.
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    Re: Bran absolute supplier in the US

    Thanks, Paul. I assumed this was the case!
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    Re: Bran absolute supplier in the US

    Thanks! I’ll check it out. I did see that John Walsh carries bran absolute as well, but I am not sure if they have small amounts. I’ve sent an email to them so we shall see.
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    Bran absolute supplier in the US

    Hello everyone,

    Iím looking for a bran absolute supplier in the US, particularly one that offers small quantities. Not sure it exists but thought Iíd ask! I searched the BN threads and didnít find...
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    Re: Improving top notes

    I haven’t used them in conjunction before but you it sounds interesting. Mint absolute really has a nice green note along with the minty aspects.
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    Re: What is the highest use of peach aldehyde?

    Thea, I wouldn’t worry about EU allergens if you are “in FL” lol!
  23. Re: Anyone experimenting with less common citrus notes?

    I used kaffir lime in a recent after shave formula and turned out pretty good. I also added a small amount of lemon myrtle but that’s not really citrus (just smells like it and has a fair amount of...
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    Re: Coumarin and Tonka Bean Abs

    I dilute tonka bean absolute to 10%. A little goes a long way but it smells so good. Have fun ��
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    Re: ISO E Super help

    Personally, I love the smell of it as well as Timbersilk and use both fairly often, especially as a base in woody or softer amber notes. Looking at notes I have it an average of 3-10% of the...
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    Re: Improving top notes

    I second cilantro oil. Too much though, and you get nothing but celery! I would dilute it to 1% and use a drop by drop formula until you get what you want.
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    Re: Taking my leave

    Thank you for all your insight and knowledge, Paul. Hope you stick around.
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    Re: Dimethyl Sulphide

    Creating Perfume sells Sulfurol and I am thinking of getting a small sample. Anyone used this before?
  29. Re: Niche and indie fragrance houses/stores in Montreal?

    Yeah I went there in May. It’s a very nice store and they have a ton of niche brands.
  30. Re: How can I dissolve the oil from roasted coffee beans?

    Pears et al, has anyone used coffee bean oil diluted in IPM in their alcohol-based formulas? Iíve used it neat and it immediately clouds the mix. I love the scent and think it would have loads of...
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    Re: A Couple of Questions on an Amber Accord

    Personally, I second the idea of sandalwood materials like Javanol, Ebanol and Sandalore. Iíve made a pretty nice amber accord based around benzoin and labdanum but added smaller amounts of cedar,...
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    Re: Minimal forest fragrance

    https://www.palettenaturals.com/product-page/aromatic-woods
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    Re: Minimal forest fragrance

    I’m working on a forest scent and I’m using fir, cypress and black spruce absolutes, diluted to 10% and using sparingly. Those are really nice and in small amounts may give a nice forest-like note...
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    Re: Perfume - how to improve longevity?

    I agree with a lot of the comments. As an example, if you smell mandarin aldehyde neat you will get nauseous but if you add a small amount at 1% to a blend it would help tremendously and last much...
  35. Re: Advise to whom and where to send sample fragrance

    Can you provide the chemical compounds in the flavor? That may help.
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    Re: Dilution % for aroma chemicals

    Completely agree. I dilute a few things such as aldehydes, safranal, norlimbanol, clove, and other strong materials to 1% and the rest are 10%, 50%, or neat. I use a Excel formula calculator to help...
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    Re: Tincture percentages

    Not sure if this is 100% correct but I donít count tinctures into the overall fragrance percentage...I create a second line in my Excel sheet and include it in the overall ethanol percentage.
  38. Re: labeling ingredients - alcohol vis alcohol denat

    Thanks, runstile. I would like to know more about your line once it’s ready and I’ll do the same for mine if you are interested.

    Do you know if the ingredients need to be listed on the bottle, or...
  39. Re: labeling ingredients - alcohol vis alcohol denat

    Runstile, do you have a website where you sell your fragrances?
  40. Re: labeling ingredients - alcohol vis alcohol denat

    https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/cosmetic-ingredients/fragrances-cosmetics

    Do potential allergens need to be listed according to the FDA? I didn’t see it on the site above.
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    Re: First perfume - what to add?

    Take a look at The Good Scents Company’s incredible database:

    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1001792.html

    I am not joking when I say I’m on their site almost daily. The information...
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    Re: First perfume - what to add?

    A little goes a long way with several of your materials - if possible I’d dilute vanillin even more as well as spearmint, benzoin, labdanum and guaiacwood.

    Try creating simple citrus accords...
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    Re: Thread: Virgin Island Water recipe or formula

    Here is a pretty good thread and link:

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/445778-Creed-VIW-and-Aventus-in-the-mix-demo-formula
  44. Re: "Burping" and the General Aging of Fragrances

    https://www.oakbarrelsltd.com/product-p/blk01l.htm

    I have a small oak barrel I use to make my own whisky - it is pretty cool. It would impart a smoky, whisky note to the concentrate but if that's...
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    Re: Extend Longevity of EO Grapefruit and Mint?

    Do you have access to Grapefruit Base by Firmenich? It is really good and long-lasting. If you can somehow find Paradisamide and Magnolan too those are also very nice. I started a thread a few weeks...
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    Re: Pistachio fragrance oil

    https://www.indigofragrance.com/item_864/Toasted-Pistachio-Fragrance-Oil.htm

    https://thecandlemakersstore.com/toasted-pistachio-fragrance-oil.html

    I think both are skin safe oils.
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    Re: Pistachio fragrance oil

    White Lotus Aromatics carries Pistachio CO2:

    https://www.whitelotusaromatics.com/product/pistachio-nut-co2-select-extract
  48. Thread: Lichee note

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    Re: Lichee note

    Thanks for the suggestions! I’ve purchased lychee at a specialty store close to me but even then it’s not something they carry all the time. First time I ever smelled or tasted anything lychee...
  49. Thread: Lichee note

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    Re: Lichee note

    Thanks, Anyone know where to get small quantities in the US?
  50. Thread: Lichee note

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    Re: Lichee note

    Interestingly enough, I actually tried a lychee accord tonight and itís more difficult than I initially thought. I do not have raspberry ketone so that may help. In there is linalool, citronellol,...
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    Re: Beginner Neaceous

    It means diluting a material to a certain percentage compared to diluant. For example, a 10% dilution of labdanum is 10% labdanum, 90% DPG, alcohol or other diluant (i.e., 1 part labdanum to 9 parts...
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    Re: My base blend

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    Ambroxen goes well with cedramber and vertofix so that would be another addition. I would play around with those three until you get something you like. Ethyl Vanillin is long lasting and goes...
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    Re: Blenders in Aventus

    Thanks, Geco. Any suggestions for “sparkling”? Longer lasting preferably but I know that’s asking a lot. :)
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    Re: Blenders in Aventus

    I’ve never tried octacetal before...what’s it like? Is it bright like Hermes Eau d’Orange Verte or something else? I’m working on a couple formulas and feel like I need something to add in the...
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    Re: Blenders in Aventus

    Sounds like interesting changes were made. Are you planning on selling this fragrance eventually?
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    Re: Iso/Et. Brass/hedione etc struggle

    Aldara, have you tried making up two blends (one with EB, IES, etc., and one without) and comparing them? I’ve done that with Hedione and Hedione HC and you can see their effects. Perhaps those...
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    Itís an interesting material. I got a small sample through ZOils on Etsy. Itís more expensive than Liberty but there is no MOQ so I added it on an order recently. Give it a shot!
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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

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    Re: Chemical Analysis of Santal 33?

    I would be very interested in seeing what your formula looks like. A while ago I did the same and managed to get in the ballpark of Santal 33 but nowhere as nice as the original. I read here once...
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    Re: Powdery bases

    Ambrettolide, Ethylene Brassylate and Romandolide are powdery to varying extents, with IMO, Ethylene Brassylate the most. Those are the only ones I have tried in your list.
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    Re: Making Fougere

    I made a relatively basic fougere this afternoon and it turned out pretty well. My brother has a small shaving soap business so I’m working on a scent reminiscent of an old-school barber shop for a...
  62. Re: Blast from the Past: REALLY recommended especially if fairly new to perfuming but even if not!

    I have a Yahoo account but couldn’t access anything since I am not a member of the group.
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    Re: Top notes from Ellena

    Any luck? I’m searching for the same materials...take a look at the thread I started several days ago and there are a lot of good suggestions. Specifically, longer lasting grapefruit materials...
  64. Re: Looking for materials like Methyl Pamplemousse with longevity

    Thanks for all the great suggestions. I’ll compile a list and check them out.
  65. Looking for materials like Methyl Pamplemousse with longevity

    Hi all,

    Are there any materials similar to methyl pamplemousse with more longevity? I have a really nice formula developed but as you can guess the top notes, and especially MP, doesnít last...
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    Re: Concentrate percentages

    I agree with Matt but will also add something. When I’m unfamiliar with using a material in a formula I also look it up on the Good Scents website.

    For example, seaweed abs is recommended...
  67. Re: D'jwanna make money creating new best selling note combos for your perfumes? Scientific study

    That’s pretty interesting. Thanks for sharing.
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    Re: How do I get that crispness?

    If it is like any other aldehyde then neat would be way too much. Give it a shot, though - what's the worst that can happen? If it smells awful, throw it out and try again!
  69. Re: Who here has used red, yellow and/or green mandarin in a formula?

    I am looking forward to working with green mandarin. I haven't smelled it or worked with it yet but have some ideas on how I want to incorporate it into a formula.
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    Re: Formula dilution percentages

    Unless I am misreading your post that would be incorrect. It depends on whether the tuberose was diluted according to weight or not. As an example, when doing your dilutions, weigh out 20 grams of...
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    Re: How do I get that crispness?

    Recently, I used vetiver, citral and methyl pamplemousse in a formula and they helped achieve a crisp top note effect. Also used in the formula were olibanum, cypress and black spruce absolutes which...
  72. Re: Who here has used red, yellow and/or green mandarin in a formula?

    Thanks, Paul! I thought this was the case.
  73. Re: Who here has used red, yellow and/or green mandarin in a formula?

    Thanks, Bill - 6% of the final product is significantly different than 6% of the fragrance concentrate. In my current formula I have yellow mandarin oil at 1% of the final product, so that is good...
  74. Who here has used red, yellow and/or green mandarin in a formula?

    Hi all,

    I’m curious who has incorporated any of the mandarin oils (red, yellow and/or green) in a formula. I really love the differences in all the oils and am working on three separate fragrances...
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    Re: Formula dilution percentages

    Hi, you are correct - in this example Lyral is at a 25% dilution (i.e., 25% Lyral and 75% alcohol, carrier oil, etc.). Floralozone is a 10% solution with 10% Floralozone, 90% alcohol or whatever you...
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    Re: green top note

    I ordered a sample of Honeyflor for the same reason amateurperfumer initially asked about so when it arrives I’ll do some testing and see how it goes. I’m working on a green mandarin fragrance and...
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    Re: Quince accord question for you

    Hi Paul,

    When checking out the Bedoukian site I came across methyl amyl ketone and noticed it was recommended for quince fragrances.
    ...
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    Re: Where to buy pre-made accords

    Thanks for the info on Palette Naturals, Paul. I found them a hike back but haven’t tried any of their accords. They look pretty interesting, so I may try a few.
  79. Re: Cannabis Accord formula / recipe help / critique

    I checked with Terpenemart and they recommend no more then 3% of their products in the total volume. I haven’t tried any yet but hoping to do so soon.
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    Re: Anyone use Z oils?

    I also tried a sample of fir balsam abs from ZOils and as you might imagine it’s really nice. I haven’t ordered from Mandy Aftel but her site seems to have lots of interesting materials. I’d really...
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    Re: Cherry note used in patchouli gourmonds?

    I have some bitter almond coming in today so I will start working with it and see how much of a cherry effect it has.
  82. Re: "The world's first biotech musk - Ambrettolide-HC-Supreme"

    Sure haven’t. What are your first impressions?
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    Re: Anyone use Z oils?

    I also purchased blue cypress, port orford cedar and bitter almond blend.
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    Re: Anyone use Z oils?

    Hey Matt,

    I have used them before and actually just placed an order with them a couple days ago. Their stuff is pretty high quality - at least the materials I have (cypress abs, black spruce abs,...
  85. Thread: Papyrus

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    Re: Papyrus

    Thanks, PK! Ever used this material before?
  86. Thread: Papyrus

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    Papyrus

    Hi all,

    Does anyone know where to purchase papyrus oil or papyrus essence? Iíve seen this note listed in several fragrances that I really like and want to experiment with it if I can find it (and...
  87. Thread: Apricot note

    by bsouthers
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    Re: Apricot note

    Thanks, Paul! Applejack is essentially Apple Brandy so this Accord would work perfectly. I can substitute the apricot for apple.

    Barry
  88. Thread: Apricot note

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    Re: Apricot note

    Hi Paul,

    I am planning on experimenting with cognac oil, Oakwood CO2, rum extract and rum ether to create a brandy accord...am I headed in the right direction?

    Ultimately, I want to create an...
  89. Re: Niche and indie fragrance houses/stores in Montreal?

    Thanks! I found Etiket...great store! They have tons of fragrances and their employees are really helpful.
  90. Thread: Paul Kiler!

    by bsouthers
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    Re: Paul Kiler!

    Congrats, Paul. Also, my sincere condolences about your father.
  91. Niche and indie fragrance houses/stores in Montreal?

    Hello,

    I’m headed to Montreal for a few days and wanted to see if anyone knew of any niche/indie fragrance houses as well as stores that carry fragrances other than the mass market brands.
    ...
  92. Re: Looking for non citrus topnote suggessions for a vetiver fragrance

    Have you considered marine notes? Maybe even green tea, mint, or eucalyptus?

    I have used marine notes with vetiver and it works pretty well.
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    Re: Clearwood Demonstration Formulas

    Thanks, Paul. I’ve used Clearwood with patchouli, vanilla, different types of cedar, Iso E Super, rum, oakwood, etc., and it’s one of my best creations. Overall really good stuff. Thanks for the link!
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    Re: Anyone have a good caramel accord?

    I have been playing around with a caramel accord as well. I have not found anything close to what I want but tonka, vanilla, butter CO2, caramel furfural, methyl-5 furfural, and ethyl maltol are...
  95. Re: Cannabis Accord formula / recipe help / critique

    Vetikol acetate and patchouli make a cannabis-like note. Also, I asked susan at CP and she directed me to this site:

    https://www.terpenemart.com/

    I am interested to try these to see if it could...
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    Re: advice on my next order

    The only one I have on your list is Tobacarol. It has more of a cigar box odor rather than tobacco, yet with tobacco absolute it makes a good combo. It is a dry note, not overpowering. Iíve used it...
  97. Re: Help needed: Start a perfume business - tips anyone? :)

    Definitely. Indie Scents carries some interesting stuff as does Twisted Lily and Indigo Perfumery. Lucky Scent carries a huge mix of both niche and larger house fragrances.
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    Re: Cold sea fragrance.

    I’ve always wanted to try CPs Mountain Air accord. Do you know the materials used in it?
  99. Re: Free P&F Article download on Tenacity and Fixing of Aromachemicals, P&F Magazine 1976

    Thanks, Paul!
  100. Re: Has anyone tried blood cedar wood, or other uniqe materials from Aftel?

    Relatively similar to Cedarwood Texas, which is what I have to compare. Less of a smoky, harsh note. I haven’t seen a GCMS but it is closer in scent to Cedarwood terpenes more than anything. Those...
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