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  1. Re: Help me build a fougere! (With my limited materials)

    Thank you, I'm very glad you found things of use. :)

    I do want to clarify on my musical analogy, if not clear already -- you may have gotten my meaning exactly already, but just in case.
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    Re: Perfume synthesis.

    If with your distillation apparatus you could not concentrate the apricot more than it presently is without losing important volatiles, why do you expect to be able to distill off large amounts of...
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    Re: Things I learned about perfumery

    I am sure I do the exact same things. As a non-perfume example, I spent I'm pretty sure 100 hours plus designing a logo -- consisting of only four letters, one of them used twice -- with novel font...
  4. Re: Possible components giving sweet note to natural civet?

    I want to limit that statement now to only civet paste, which has been excellent.

    Very dubious of and displeased with sandalwood and one oud received, dubious of second oud received but it isn't...
  5. Re: Some interesting historical and vintage perfume recipes (called as such in the book)

    al-Kindi apparently was not only a tremendous figure in perfumery but in many things. I am absolutely astonished by all he did:

    https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/166284...
  6. Re: Some interesting historical and vintage perfume recipes (called as such in the book)

    Dreadfully hard to read, but an online source to view "The Secrets of the reuerend Maifter Alexis of Pyemont," published 1595, from which one of the above came:...
  7. Re: Some interesting historical and vintage perfume recipes (called as such in the book)

    Thank you Paul!!! :)
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    Re: Question about Doremox

    Btw I was not so clear as I would have wanted: I use L-citronellol myself but wrote citronellol as it's more available and can be used. One may also use rhodinol for similar effect as L-citronellol....
  9. Re: Some interesting historical and vintage perfume recipes (called as such in the book)

    Very glad it is of help! :)
  10. Re: Some interesting historical and vintage perfume recipes (called as such in the book)

    Btw, al-Kindi, who authored the Musk and Ambergris perfumes above, was quite the fellow:

    https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Al-Kindi.html
    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/al-kindi/
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  11. Some interesting historical and vintage perfume recipes (called as such in the book)

    Henry VIII's perfume
    'Take 6 spoonsful of rose oil, the same of rose water and a quarter of an
    ounce of sugar. Mix well together and add two grains of musk and one
    ounce of ambergris, then boil...
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    Re: Question about Doremox

    The formulas were not intended to be purely rose. For example, I would certainly not use Iralia in an accord I intended to simply be rose, but would be likely to use it as part of a fragrance that...
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    Re: Oud Chypre Base for Natural Perfumers

    :)

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    Re: Trying to create a masculine rose oud

    Nice post by Matt, very helpful!

    Another Firmenich formula is: https://www.firmenich.com/uploads/files/ingredients/demo_formulas/OUD_ASSAFI_FORMULA_2019.pdf

    it is possible there could be an...
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    Re: Oud Chypre Base for Natural Perfumers

    Since you've added lavender perhaps this can be well directed towards a fougere instead! As I think you are suggesting as a possibility. I don't see why not.

    When I was young and stupid as opposed...
  16. Re: Help me build a fougere! (With my limited materials)

    Link to above article quoted in a major edit to above post, perhaps quite interesting or even useful for some interested in chypres:...
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    Re: Oud Chypre Base for Natural Perfumers

    Habibi, thank you again for posting your formula.

    As I wished to try it, although with different oud and using S. album not spicatum so not really fair or accurate but at least in the...
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    Re: PK's Super Sugar Base

    Sugar is a mystery to me.

    I think that almost certainly what we smell as "sugar" is not the sugar (sucrose, glucose, or fructose) at all but for some reason comes along with it. It is hard for me...
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    Re: Perfume synthesis.

    Really my suggestion would be, especially as you have gone to so much work to make material that may be quite nice, don't ruin it by mixing them together.

    Every single one of us here can tell you...
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    Re: Question about Doremox

    For some ideas -- not prescriptions, but ideas -- example formulas where a material is used are often good to review when starting out with a material.

    One way is to go to...
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    Re: A silly idea

    No combining idea is silly unless it's patently obvious from experience or reasonable research that it cannot work.

    That said, formulas of only two single-material synthetics or the like will...
  22. Re: Help me build a fougere! (With my limited materials)

    Just to have in one place with the fougere discussion and perhaps useful for some, the similar question of what material types are fundamental to making a chypre? Again I can only post on the basis...
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    Re: Apricot absolute

    Just to be clear before a nonsense post appears, thinking "here's the opening to again act like I've refuted Bill and claim what he's posting is how people are killing themselves and the like"...
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    Re: Apricot absolute

    At first I didn't give a reply because I think others could give you a better one on this particular question.

    On re-reading though I'm finding your original post unclear:

    An absolute has all...
  25. Re: Just started, please help me with a fragnance

    Important to humor to seem true or possibly true! :laugh:

    Hence the "scientific" tone and details.
  26. Re: Perfume Pyramid: What is the reason for categorising ACs the way they have been?

    C12 MNA is a base note in terms of substantivity.

    The term top note is sometimes used with regards to being obvious in the opening rather than dying out quickly. So occasionally a base note...
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    Re: Is Liaison Carbone Gone For Good?

    Thankfully not unavailable as long as John Steele had been! I was getting to sweating bullets from withdrawal symptoms.
  28. Re: Just started, please help me with a fragnance

    Not at all, Habibi! No need for apology, not in the slightest harsh, I just assumed the reply seemed inexplicable or unwarranted.

    I just preferred to let OP read between the lines if he could and...
  29. Re: Just started, please help me with a fragnance

    Not one person is doing so to sell or to get benefit of wearing while avoiding paying to buy. No theft. The purpose is broad learning of the art, which the people involved are doing and we know they...
  30. Re: Just started, please help me with a fragnance

    (Accidental double post)
  31. Re: Just started, please help me with a fragnance

    Buy the finest oud and saffron, add patchouli oil, and lastly pink peppercorns. Order of addition is important. Use high setting of blender for precisely 90 seconds. Vacuum filter through 0.40 micron...
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    Re: Fragrance Concentrations

    Use what seems right to you.
    If with a given concentrate 10.00 percent (or any predetermined figure) seems too strong or too weak to you for your EDT it would be senseless to use that percentage...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    I do hope what you have is good and it's certainly possible it is!

    And btw I'm not prejudiced when it comes to fake or adulterated, except when it comes to learning materials in which case it's...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    I hope you have good products with these.

    In general, I cannot strongly enough recommend buying from perfumery suppliers not aromatherapy or bath and beauty, etc suppliers.

    Personally I spent a...
  35. Re: Help me build a fougere! (With my limited materials)

    Fraghead, while nothing but personal taste, as you asked my personal favorite fougeres are vintage Paco Rabanne Pour Homme, Caron Pour Un Homme, Guerlain Mouchoir de Monsieur, and Fougere Royale,...
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    Re: Classic Vetiver soapiness

    Hard to say without knowing where it is. I would expect it somewhere around 5%. If that's all it is yet it's still pretty dominant, then the rest of the formula needs more intensity rather than...
  37. Thread: Datura

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    Re: Datura

    I was pretty interested by the high amounts of carboxylic acids.

    I had always quite neglected them in perfumery. However, on experiencing the power of butyric and hexanoic acids, now I wonder if...
  38. Re: Help me build a fougere! (With my limited materials)

    Broadly, some have the view of "feeling of fougere" which doesn't necessarily mean anything with regards to component ingredients, and that of course is quite impossible to discuss in terms of...
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    Re: Classic Vetiver soapiness

    You are likely spot on with your guess, I think, though I do not have formulas or GC/MS's for the fragrances you mention.

    It seems like many don't realize that aldehydes such as C10 are quite...
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    Re: Synarome Formulas

    Very nice! It has really brightened my afternoon that you did!



    Interesting to see what others will think. I don't know that fragrance myself.
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    Re: Synarome Formulas

    I don't know but it seems highly likely it is a typo or alternate nomenclature, as the only references to this that I find are this very PDF, and Arctander's book which gives this as the first...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    I am seeing only $19.50 shipping cost from Perfumer Supply House to the UK.
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    I'm afraid not. My only UK purchases are the occasional item from Pell Wall but I have never purchased sandalwood from them. I do recommend them as a quality though pricey shop for perfuming...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    Always good to work more with things but on the other hand, sticking with bad materials -- should they be such -- is a terrible time waster. I don't mean the hours on a particular day, I mean...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    I have not tried it but to my personal taste (formed in the 1970's by what was common then) it is very hard to find decent sandalwood. I probably have bought more sandalwoods than any other natural,...
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    Re: IFRA 49th amendment

    I had not but just taking the allowance for final fragrance and multiplying by 5 or 10 (if 20% or 10% concentration) will give what you are allowed in concentrate.

    Nice to see eugenol kicked up as...
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    Re: Some beginner questions

    Additionally, for any determined on using natural or so-called natural materials only, natural vanillin is now produced also from fermentation of ferulic acid obtained from rice bran. If you buy a...
  48. Thread: Datura

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    Re: Datura

    The headspace:

    Nerolidol 34.59%
    Dodecanoic acid 29.85%
    Ethyl palmitoleate 7.68%
    Geraniol 5.67%
    Hexadecanoic acid 4.77%
    Tetradecanoic acid 3.6%
    2-Butoxy-1-ethanol 1.98%
    Decanoic acid 1.96%
  49. Re: To old member insulting to me by PM and then demanding no PM reply:

    I don't want to be aggravated by receiving an unsolicited email either.

    Not posting further.
  50. Re: To old member insulting to me by PM and then demanding no PM reply:

    No popcorn. The person will not be posting, being an unsolicited PM'er and e-mailer only. And I have nothing to add, top of thread post is complete.
  51. To old member insulting to me by PM and then demanding no PM reply:

    Never write me again. That is all.
  52. Re: Interesting webpage on human odor aromachemicals

    PEA is in the same family but certainly different. Not as rose, maybe sweeter, and some more dimensionality to it.

    For sure, phenethyl alcohol could be present in humans from absorption from...
  53. Re: Interesting webpage on human odor aromachemicals

    It is a great material everyone (past early stage) should have, I think.

    Phenethyl acetate (aka phenyl ethyl acetate) is in some ways related but in others quite different. Basically floral rose...
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    Median GC/MS values for neroli

    I was going through my e-mail drafts (which is basically how I keep notes) and found an old item that could be of interest for some.

    It's the median values of materials found in neroli from 17 or...
  55. Re: Interesting webpage on human odor aromachemicals

    it had me wanting to dig out the phenethyl acetate, which has sat neglected for years, and obtain some vanillic acid.

    That said, I question whether detected vanillic acid is endogeneous or is a...
  56. Interesting webpage on human odor aromachemicals

    Though quite short, has some information I hadn't seen before: http://www.limbicsignal.com/2017/09/anthropogenic-aroma-compounds.html
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    Re: make my own Terre d'Hermes

    I'm really surprised that I forgot about it, as well. I was amazed to see it offered and jumped right on it, and then somehow forgot?!?!?
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    Well this one was so far off -- and sold as being from South East India, named Mysore, and claimed to be from a company (FP Aromatics) that "has been in this industry for 3 generations. Their primary...
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    Re: make my own Terre d'Hermes

    FV, if you don't mind paying $20, Jamie has his version of this on his website -- search for Frater Perfumes -- and there are a number of other formulas as well.

    It need not be a recurring monthly...
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    Re: make my own Terre d'Hermes

    I would be interested in Pro Perf's recommendation also; I bought Orange Aldhehyde Natural from CP and somehow I was so busy at the time that it got put away day of receipt and I forgot I had it! I...
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    Re: Dipropylene glycol and water perfume

    Milky without thickener is in many cases (not all) unstable.

    I agree with xii in the quoted material that oil/water products. e.g body lotions, are very very doable and are of course often done....
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    Oh, and on the quality control, and also quality assurance (not the same):

    Absolutely. Some of the problems result, I am quite sure, from the programs in place being very flawed or their having...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    That is true.

    I think many assume that retailers in the perfumery business are somehow at least somewhat expert in what they sell, but why would we expect this? It doesn't have to be true. There...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    Such a frustration getting questionable or misrepresented products, and potential source of wrong decisions.

    As you preferred to not post the name, could you PM the name of the questionable vendor...
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    Re: Perfumer Alcohol formula

    Yet near full bottles of 200 proof don't go to overflowing in any period of time I've had available to observe, nor does level creep up noticeably, such as by 5%, when less full.

    (I'm not saying...
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    Re: Perfumer Alcohol formula

    Agreed, I have written 190 above but did not wish to imply there is not 200 as well.

    Also, there are several SDA's which may be used.

    Any of 39B, 39C, 40, 40A, 40B, and 40C may be used for...
  67. Re: How to make Neroli Portofino style accord?

    Original Chanel No 5 was 15 percent deer musk tincture and 15 percent civet tincture.

    The present doesn't smell anything close to that. I don't believe it's just the raws not being available, it's...
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    Re: Perfumer Alcohol formula

    ^^^^^^^^^^

    THIS.

    Sometimes, when you can't sell much of your junk by an accurate name, give it a name that makes it sound highly desirable.

    E.g., "Perfumer's Alcohol" for your own blend...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    Thank you! :)
  70. Re: Musk tincture surprise and disappointment (Warning: slightly Naughty language)

    Well the idea of letting top notes evaporate and then see if my wife still finds the objectionable notes was an utter flop.

    After one day on the strip, there was -- to my surprise -- considerable...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    Sorry to ask again, needaname, should have had my act together when asking the first time but...

    Needaname, and ourmess (re your wife's super-sniffer):

    Have you detected it in the John Steele...
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    Re: Perfumer Alcohol formula

    IPM has fixative effect. More fixative effect is not always good. For example top notes can be squashed.

    We all start from lack of knowledge. Wanting to add fixed amounts of (whatever) as some...
  73. Re: How to make Neroli Portofino style accord?

    Having re-Patreon'd at Jamie's site:

    The formula, while as he says undoubtedly richer than the commercial product and not intended to be identical, does have several aromachemicals not suggested...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    LOL!!!!!

    Exactly right! :laugh:
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    Re: Dipropylene glycol and water perfume

    If a religious based objection to alcohol, which absolutely is a reason for oil-based perfumes in many instances, one would not be adding water to ethanol.

    Quite true that there could be reasons...
  76. Re: I'm looking for materials to combine with Castoreum for a sex accord, any Ideas?

    I happened now, while doing something else, to see that the "Castoreum Absolute" I have, sold as if natural, is indeed synthetic, distributed by JDW, made by a company that puts out a lot of...
  77. Re: How to make Neroli Portofino style accord?

    IMO, not of the OP but of people interested in perfume in general, many times what they call a such-and-such note is not what we would understand as such. For example a lady here recently posted that...
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    Re: Perfumer Alcohol formula

    Perfumer's Alcohol, by the ordinary definition, not a particular retailer's proprietary product, is simply 95% alcohol that has minimal denaturants added, such as Bitrex, so that beverage alcohol tax...
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    Re: Perfumer Alcohol formula

    It also claims in its title it is "Perfumers Alcohol - Base for blending fragrance oils to make perfumes and colognes."

    And also,



    This is an example of their advice on making a perfume:
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    Re: Perfumer Alcohol formula

    You were already correctly advised above, in the sticky, and in many other threads including many at the top presently. I will not argue with you, which I believe from your content is what you are...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    Thank you! That is exactly what I needed to know.

    Personally I always want to know when others, even if only few, detect potentially objectionable notes that I don't. Now I know! :)

    Ditto on...
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    Re: Perfumer Alcohol formula

    There almost cannot be this many very-few-posts members ALL in the last few days posting about how they want to add IPM, DPG, water, Triethyl Citrate, etc.

    Unless some nut getting a lot of views...
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    Re: DPG vs Perfumer's Alcohol

    Elantiheroe, somehow despite posting after you, I had not seen your post till now.

    Yes, DPG would also be counted as a diluent. The calculations, if wishing to do them, would be the same is if...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    Very interesting, thank you. I had just been considering ordering that out of Habibi posting an oud formula using it. Now it's a definite.

    Has your wife smelled the Robertet? (Different question.)
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    Re: Dipropylene glycol and water perfume

    As personal opinion, that's the wrong question.

    The right question is why add it. What is the purpose? Will water aid the stated goal?

    The answer for nearly all wishing to make perfume, per se,...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    Btw, I would be very interested to know if any who detect cat pee in Cedarwood Atlas also detect it in the Robertet Cedarwood Atlas Heart.

    Thank you!
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    Re: Alcohol based perfumes

    Another reason is that when still wet, for a given concentration of aromamaterials, on initial application or on spraying, the more water is in the alcohol the faster fragrance comes out of it and...
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    Re: Le Labo Santal 26 Aromachemical list

    It is.

    If only so much had not unsustainably gone, at such low price, into soaps and the like for so long.
  89. Re: DPG instead of Perfumer Alcohol (Etanol)

    You could use IPM but in my opinion the skin feel is undesirable. That is a matter of opinion though: for example there is a Neutrogena skin oil that is almost entirely IPM and it sells well.

    To...
  90. Re: How to make Neroli Portofino style accord?

    Lesutch, OP says something (natural neroli) doesn't give him the note he's looking for, nor the synthetics he's tried. In your reply, you tell him to use the same thing, neroli, or use synthetics you...
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    Re: Dipropylene glycol and water perfume

    Do as you wish. Outcomes are the best teacher.
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    Re: My upcoming project is near

    As recently discussed in a thread on Chemistry, if you'd like to look. And in the sticky.

    Perfumes are made with perfumer's alcohol or other pure alcohol (190 or 200 proof.) Something intended as...
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    Re: DIY Woody Beard Oil help!

    If the words parfum or fragrance appear in the ingredients list on the box or label, very many key components of the fragrance will be in there rather than directly listed. And as for notes named in...
  94. Re: How to make Neroli Portofino style accord?

    Now I'm really wanting to find my bottle, as this is an interesting question. "Can't perceive, perceive indole, perceive artificial civet, or perceive unidentified fecal?" I've never worn it, but...
  95. Re: how to obtain the "dark" feel of patchouli without...

    I don't perceive dry or chalky feeling either but was wondering if patchoulol might cause that for tensor.
  96. Re: How to make Neroli Portofino style accord?

    I don't recall, but may have a bottle and will check later. Reason for posting is not that, but that the neroli note (or for at least vintage, actual neroli) can contain indole, which some perceive...
  97. Re: How to make Neroli Portofino style accord?

    Perhaps it depends on one's definition of very close, or how low one's estimation is of the average person's ability to discern one perfume from another.

    I do find it remarkable that the OP...
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    Re: Opinions on needing chemistry.

    There are some reasons why small amounts can have deliberately intended effects, but those posting about wanting to use water are not at the point of making fine and specific adjustment for such, nor...
  99. Re: Musk tincture surprise and disappointment (Warning: slightly Naughty language)

    LOL!!!!! :)
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    Re: Opinions on needing chemistry.

    Perfuming wise? Yes.
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