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  1. Paper or cardboard smell in vintage Coriandre

    As a lover of this fine chypre I own a bottle and two miniatures of the vintage version. I haven't tried the most recent one. What puzzles me is the strange "cardboard-paper-dusty" note I smell in...
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    Agent Provocateur

    Hallo everybody.
    Does anyone know if it's been reformulated?

    Thank you
    G.
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    JCC n° 2 Jean Charles De Castelbajac

    Has anyone tried this? I see there are no reviews in the fragrance directory and I am curious to hear some opinion.
    It is a floral leathery chypre in the same vein of Paloma Picasso (plenty of...
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    Re: First Female Frag! - Chanel N°19 vtg.

    Thank you everybody :)
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    Re: First Female Frag! - Chanel N°19 vtg.

    I agree with the fact that N.19 is beautiful, I own a mini of the vintage eau de parfum.
    I am considering to purchase a bigger bottle like the one in the photos I have attached. Can you please help...
  6. Re: White Shoulders/Diva--How to tell if a vintage fragrance is original or reformulation

    Hi aab,

    I can help you with Diva, I hope.
    I agree with grayspoole: when in bottles with only Ungaro written above, it's the old vintage jus. Over the years the writings transitioned from simply...
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    Re: Different versions of Mitsouko

    After reading what you wrote I wonder if only both excretion smelled like that. LOL
    Putting jokes aside, that sounds really strange. My oldest bottle of Mitsouko is a 1/4 full montre cologne from...
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    Re: Favorite violet fragrance?

    Adding "Kerbside Violet" by Lush ☺️
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    Re: Mystère de Rochas

    Thank you, this is nice, Magie noire and Private Collection (I have the parfum) are two fragrance I love because of their peculiar greenness.




    Ugh! Are you talking about the "Byzance" style...
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    Re: Mystère de Rochas

    I'm curious to know how would you describe it. I agree with you that many reviews and blogs talk about Mystère in an idealising, imaginative or, as you wrote, romantic way. That's why I'm looking for...
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    Re: Mystère de Rochas

    Hello Grayspoole,

    it's fine, I'm glad you took part to this thread and offered a different point of view, I appreciate the way you investigate the often hard to explain fragrance world :)

    Like...
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    Re: Mystère de Rochas

    In my experience, this is what happened: many fragrances I own are vintage chypres. Despite a proper storage, I noticed that during the years the floral notes tend to fade and the base to take over....
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    Re: Mystère de Rochas

    I hope so. Oakmoss tends to grow stronger and engulf all the composition in aged chypres
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    Re: Mystère de Rochas

    It is the 2nd edition called only "Mystère" instead of "Mystère de Rochas", bottle design same as the original
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    Re: Mystère de Rochas

    Thank you RoRo, it's a relief to know there's a well-behaved oakmoss in Mystère and that it is similar to Magie noire, so my blind buy will not be blind at all :D What intrigues me in Mystère is its...
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    Mystère de Rochas

    Despite years of collecting vintages I haven't yet put my hands on this... I am very curious and eager to buy a bottle but I'm hesitating because - I know it might sound odd - even though I love...
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    Re: Camp: notes on fashion

    Camp is aware of its "campiness", unlike kitsch which is unaware. Camp has an intellectual, cultivate approach that kitsch does not have. I would call the Avons more kitsch than camp. Avons, besides,...
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    Re: Women's Dior Circa 1980

    Thank you for the suggestion, I've been wearing Diorella from a 10 ml houndstooth miniature so far, if I would describe Diorella, I'd say "the uncomplicated chic" :)
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    Re: Women's Dior Circa 1980

    Speaking of which, does anyone know in what is different this version of Diorella from the original one?
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    Re: Women's Dior Circa 1980

    Hi grayspoole. Just my contribution to clarify.
    The easiest way is to check if the content is expressed only in milliliters or grams and milliliters. When you read both gr. and ml. this means it is...
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    Re: Women's Dior Circa 1980

    Hi Cook.bot
    I confirm your supposition, this happened to me too with a vial of vintage Tweed from a pressurized bottle.
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    Please help me identify these flacons

    Hallo everybody,

    today I need your help to identify perfume bottles from a picture.

    The photo shows the italian artist Carol Rama in her home/studio in Torino. At her left we can see many...
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    Re: Green Fragrances?

    I would like to suggest
    Papyrus de Ciane by Parfumerie Generale
    Aqua Allegoria Herba Fresca by Guerlain
    Amazingreen by Comme des Garcons
  24. Re: Please Recommend Me: Designer Body Odour, Rot, Sex, Fur

    May I suggest L'Autre by Diptyque? The cumin note is prominent.

    Papyrus De Ciane (Pierre Guillaume) is not that "dirt", but has a noticeably green note which I find "vegetal" and in some way able...
  25. Thread: Dior J'adore

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    Dior J'adore

    Hallo everybody,

    I have recently bought this bottle of Dior J'adore edp which doesn't have a batch code, hence it's not possible to me to identify the production year.
    The other details are the...
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    Re: The Big Issue - Wearing The Other Gender ?

    LOL not offended at all! just pointing out that in my opinion one should avoid this kind of definitions, e.g. the already discussed "old lady perfume".
    I understand what you say when you talk about...
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    Re: The Big Issue - Wearing The Other Gender ?

    david,

    I remember once I've read a thread where you were talking about a perfume using for three time the word "whore" and even the phrase "drunken whore" to describe it. If I will name-call like...
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    Re: Magie noire, sillage of the vintage

    What is GWP?

    Edit:
    Found now: gift with purchase :) (before, I found Global Warming Potential, that sounded weird to me)
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    Re: Magie noire, sillage of the vintage

    Thank you, Starblind. I've read your review and I share your admiration for the beautiful green notes of Magie noire :)
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    Re: Magie noire, sillage of the vintage

    Yours is a 11 ml freebie from the early 80s, so it could be very likely 1st formula :)
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    Re: Magie noire, sillage of the vintage

    Once again this community is very very helpful.



    I agree with you, Bonnette. Probably the top notes aren't still in a good shape - we're talking about very old stock - overall the perfume...
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    Magie noire, sillage of the vintage

    Dear Basenoters,

    I'm an avid collector of vintage Magie noire and I would like to ask you if you have experienced the same as me. I know this fragrance is known for its huge projection, at least...
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    Re: Calling All Feminine Vintage Collectors

    Hi thediamondsea,

    I've sent you my reply in the private messages, but this warning popped up:
    thediamondsea has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages...
  34. [International] Vintage rose poivree the different company

    Vintage Rose Poivrée for sale, 45/50 ml recharge long trip
    Price 95 USD / 80 EUR
    Shipment inside Europe 10 EUR, rest of the world 18 EUR

    Thank you

    8862388624
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    [EU] L'Arte di Gucci and others for sale

    Hello everybody,

    I am selling the following perfumes (EU only because overseas shipment is too expensive)

    Gucci L'Arte vtg 50 ml splash eur 110

    Paloma Picasso vtg 40 ml splash no box eur 55...
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    Re: Jean Louis Scherrer, animalic chypre or not?

    First of all thank to all basenoters who resurrected this old thread with new contributions. Having notifications off, I've recently realized there were new answers and I've read them with vivid...
  37. Re: (need feedback please) Marginally altered or severely compromised .... ?

    I agree about Magie Noire, in its current formulation it's very close to the original. I own several vintages from the 80s and the 90s. In my opinion nothing can compare to the very early...
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    Re: Sinan by Jean Marc Sinan

    Thanks!
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    Re: Sinan by Jean Marc Sinan

    I've realized even the BN directory lists two Sinan fragrances:

    http://www.basenotes.net/ID10211867.html

    http://www.basenotes.net/ID10211868.html

    Aren't they the same?

    @grayspoole, how...
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    Re: Sinan by Jean Marc Sinan

    Thank you cacio.

    Yes it's confusing because Jean Marc Sinan's Sinan has been launched in different bottles and boxes, the detail in common was the stopper: a half moon shaped cap, ivory or golden,...
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    Re: Sinan by Jean Marc Sinan

    Thank you grayspoole! That's indeed a great description of it. Yes, there are so many minis around I would likely fill a 50 ml bottle without spending so much :D
    I'm happy to learn the formula...
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    Sinan by Jean Marc Sinan

    This seems to be a hard to find and obscure fragrance. Would someone please:

    -Describe it, I know it is a rose chypre very similar to Coriandre/vintage Knowing.
    -If anybody owns a vintage, how...
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    Re: L'Iris de Fath

    Hi cacio,

    I would kindly disagree and point out that I smelled Iris de Fath at Esxence 2018 and wrote about it on the quoted thread way before it was commented here.
    ...
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    Re: Iris Gris: calling all stations

    I would politely disagree: won't be that fraction of molecule to persuade me that Iris de Fath is so different from the majority of iris smelling perfumes and other commercial products. I can...
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    Re: Iris Gris: calling all stations

    I'm sometimes surprised how often the above quoted products smell better than what's on perfumery shelves. Well I'm sure you know what Simmel wrote in his essay on fashion.
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    Re: Iris Gris: calling all stations

    If I can give my personal opinion, I smelled Fath's Iris at Esxence. Just put a drop of the perfume on my skin and it disappeared after 20 minutes. Very very poor performance for a perfume...
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    Re: Cardboard note in vintage Coriandre?

    Thank you cacio.

    Unfortunately Coriandre in my experience is a fragrance that does not ages gracefully. I confirm what you wrote: the drydown is ok, and still I recognize the old original (I...
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    Cardboard note in vintage Coriandre?

    Hi everybody.

    I have a vintage bottle of Coriandre by Jean Couturier, it's from the very early 80s bought one year ago, it's an edt.
    I've recently noticed that the fragrance, even though having...
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    Re: Frederic Malle Batch Codes

    Don't mention it.

    Maybe during the early era of production, Malle's fragrances had no batch code. I realized that even when other houses printed batch codes on their products, there were others...
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    Re: Frederic Malle Batch Codes

    Nowhere :D
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    Re: Frederic Malle Batch Codes

    Hi,

    I have a bottle of Musc Ravageur bought in 2000, just after the launch. There is no batch code.
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    Re: Highly Evocative Fragrances

    Years ago I was employed in a second hand bookshop. I remember this mature guy, 55/60 years old, hippie like style, long grey hair and beard, bringing huge bags of books he wanted to sell us, at...
  53. Re: National Fragrance Day! What are you wearing?

    Vintage Coriandre edt
  54. Thread: GUCCI L'Arte

    by Gilturko
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    Re: GUCCI L'Arte

    Hello grayspoole,

    I've forgot to mention I've experienced EL Knowing only in its more recent iteration, so my "review" compares L'Arte to it. I can understand why you write about a richer rose...
  55. Thread: GUCCI L'Arte

    by Gilturko
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    Re: GUCCI L'Arte

    The bottle is a splash edt more than 25 years old.
    Despite being created in 1991, L'Arte comes straight from the realm of the 80s rose chypres (but I find amusing to observe that the 80s didn't...
  56. Thread: GUCCI L'Arte

    by Gilturko
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    Re: GUCCI L'Arte

    @epapsiou, suggestion followed!
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    Re: Shipping perfume from Italy

    Congratulations for your italian! I guess the weather wasn't so nice during your stay, we have had an unusually long winter, but now spring is coming and my city will welcome you again :)
    If you...
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    Re: Shipping perfume from Italy

    Greetings from Milano! And enjoy your fragrance :)
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    Re: Vintage Fragrances I bought today

    Gucci L'Arte edt :)
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    Re: Knowing what's better :)

    Great. I like a dark rose. Looking forward to read your point of view about the new formulation.



    Thank you for the advice <3
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    Re: Knowing what's better :)

    Very tricky indeed.

    Hoping this will help, I attach some photos.

    In the first you can see the different boxes.
    Then the back of the boxes made in UK and made in Switzerland. Then, the...
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    Re: Knowing what's better :)

    Thank you cacio and grayspoole.

    I agree with cacio about the rose note, even though I haven't smelled the vintage, in the new version I hardly at first can detect the rose. To me, it's a different...
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    Knowing what's better :)

    I would like to add to my collection an original pre-reform version of Estée Lauder Knowing. How can I recognize it? The new box compared to the older apparently doesn't show so many differences and...
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    Re: Please identify this bottle!

    I hope the juice is in good shape
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    Re: Please identify this bottle!

    It's Elizabeth Taylor's Black Pearls (miniature)
  66. Thread: GUCCI L'Arte

    by Gilturko
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    Re: GUCCI L'Arte

    Thank you :)
  67. Thread: GUCCI L'Arte

    by Gilturko
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    Re: GUCCI L'Arte

    Hi epapsiou, nice suggestion. Would you point out some difference between EDP and EDT? The latter is easier to find.

    Not wanting to go off topic, but besides L'Arte should be a place for La Perla...
  68. Thread: GUCCI L'Arte

    by Gilturko
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    GUCCI L'Arte

    Hallo everybody.

    In a collection of rose chypres including, among others, milestones like Coriandre, Magie Noire, Diva, La Nuit, Paloma Picasso and Parfum de Peau, would L'Arte be redundant?
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    Re: Why is Italy full of vintage perfumes?

    I would like to mention the several chemical labs that designed perfumes for fashion brands and perfumes to be sold not necessarily with a fashion designer name on the label. Laboratories that...
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    Re: What can you spot in this photo?

    Cialenga Balenciaga (under the bunch of vials) and Expression Fath (last row, the irregular round shaped flacon)
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    Re: Ungaro DIVA -The rectangular bottle

    I own a bottle of the pre reformulated edp in column shape, on the box is written just Ungaro (without Emanuel) and there's no ingredient list. It's incredibly long lasting on skin and stays for...
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    Re: Aromatics Elixir reformulation

    Hi, Cacio.

    I agree about the drydown, it isn't as mossy as it should be if real oakmoss was in the formula. I actually can't easily detect which notes it displays, but I get some woody, creamy,...
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    Aromatics Elixir reformulation

    Hi all.

    I've read almost everwhere bitter complaints about the reformulation of AE: the fragrance changed, "floral, soapy", "no more dark as it was once", "disappears in few hours" etc.

    Very...
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    Re: Favourite classic feminines

    So many! I have to narrow the list.

    Pre 1900: Borsari Violetta di Parma. Even though not so known outside Italy, this is to me the reference violet. In my opinion it has kept its identity even...
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    Re: Gres - Cabochard - Help me figure this out

    Thank you Bonnette
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    Re: Gres - Cabochard - Help me figure this out

    Hi grayspoole,
    thank you for answering.

    The bow itself, I've seen, is not glued, but it's not tied on neither. The part around the neck of the bottle looks glued around.

    The perfume is of a...
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    Re: Gres - Cabochard - Help me figure this out

    !!!

    I know I'm going to revamp an ooooold thread, but today at a thrift shop I spotted the same Cabochard pictured in kumquat's photo. I checked it and it looked good.

    But I have some...
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    [EU] VINTAGES: Hermès Amazone, Azzaro 9

    Hi.

    Selling vintage and unused versions of:

    Hermès Amazone 25ml/25gr atomiseur. 40 euro
    Loris Azzaro Azzaro 9 30 ml spray. 35 euro
    ...
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    Re: Vintage Shalimar parfum

    Thank you mikeperez23, yours is a truly exhaustive description :)
    Thank you all basenoters for your contributions!

    G
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    Re: Vintage Shalimar parfum

    My question, to put it in a more precise way, wasn't about the composition itself but about the difference between the Shalimar we are talking about and the, for instance, previous or following...
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    Re: Vintage Shalimar parfum

    Thank you cacio. What do you think about the formula?



    Hi grayspoole, thank you for the reply. I confirm the box and bottle are in perfect condition.



    Hi mikeperez23! Now you three are...
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    Vintage Shalimar parfum

    Hi.
    I have the chance to buy a vintage Shalimar in Parfum concentration, black and gold box containing the purple velvet case, 7,5 ml, batch code says it is from 1987.
    Price asked 40 euros.
    Is it...
  83. The mystery of Magie Noire's transition bottles...

    Hallo everybody :)

    Thanks to a recent contribution by cytherian and epapsiou, I've considered the issue of the transition bottles.

    I've recently found a MN bottle which batch code dates it to...
  84. Re: Looking for an old perfume titled "FOR MEN" or "FOR MAN"

    Hi Cyrus.
    IMHO memories could be fuzzy sometime, so I would try to see the thing from a different angle. This said, the name of the fragrance could have been "That man" (by Revlon)?
  85. Re: Fifties/Sixties Aldehydic Florals--Questions and Recommendations

    Hi thediamondsea,

    I recommend you to try Detchema by the house Revillon.
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    Re: Signs of "turned" juice

    In my experience, even if an old fragrance smells apparently good, a sign of decay is the lack of sillage and the very short longevity.
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    La Perla classic vintage, help :)

    Hi everybody!

    I would like to add to my collection La Perla, the classic fragrance of 1987 by the famous homonymous italian lingerie brand. I know the more recent iteration is completely...
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    Re: Women's Dior Circa 1980

    Dioressence.

    A friend time ago sent me a sample to test, from her bottle: the one in the metallic blue canister, I do think early 80s.
    A beautiful ambergris with a feral growl underneath. I...
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    Re: Women's Dior Circa 1980

    Ha ha! Dear Epapsiou, I think I am part of the 0,000001% of Basenotes members that has never smelled Miss Dior until now! And as I have already talked about in another thread, I am trying to find a...
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    Re: Guerlain Chant d'Aromes

    Dear saminlondon,

    indeed, the stopper looks odd because someone tried to uncap the bottle putting too much force and broke it. The damaged outer shell (clear plastic) is now removable and the...
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    Guerlain Chant d'Aromes

    Hallo everybody.

    I would like to ask you if you could help me identifying the era of a Guerlain bottle.
    It's Chant d'Aromes, edt goutte bottle, I do think it is a 50 ml. (there is no indication...
  92. Thread: Magie Noire

    by Gilturko
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    Re: Magie Noire

    Hi Starblind,

    in my opinion I do not find the new formulation so true to the original as it is stated in some forum and by some rewievers. I've tried it at a Lancome counter and, despite what the...
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    Re: Miss Dior vintage cologne

    Don't! We are here to help and inform each other :)
    Anyhow, since you have both vapo and atomizer, do you detect any difference between them? It's often said that old atomizers keep better the...
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    Re: Miss Dior vintage cologne

    Hi Cook.bot,

    yes, the Atomiseur is the pressurized bottle, the content is indicated in grams and milliliters, and often you can read behind the box a warning notice.

    Vaporisateur is the...
  95. Re: Kouros! Kouros! Kouros! Prepare to be amazed.

    I forgot to mention that my first contact was at the beginning of 2017.
  96. Re: Kouros! Kouros! Kouros! Prepare to be amazed.

    Dear Nasenman,

    I've tried to contact Moreau for some informations about perfumes and I've been able to talk only with his kind colleague. She told me she would have informed him as soon as...
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    Re: Sensual vintage women's perfumes

    Of course is like that. I must admit that I enjoy being among those wearing vintage deep and rich fragrances.

    Marketing addresses the consumers and shapes their needs, more than educate their...
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    Re: Miss Dior vintage cologne

    Hi Grayspoole and Cook.bot!

    First of all sorry if I join the discussion so late, I've been on holidays and I have not checked the forum.
    Yours are very detailed answers and contributions and...
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    Re: Miss Dior vintage cologne

    Hi Cook.bot, thank you for the recommendation, what you point out is very useful.



    Yes I do know it is the eau de toilette :) I was just wondering if it could have been wiser searching it...
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    Re: Miss Dior vintage cologne

    Thank you Grayspoole! I must admit I haven't yet smelled this famous chypre, shame on me :D So this will be completely a blind buy. But I know the fragrance notes and I like them all, I am sure I'll...
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