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    Re: DIORLING, by Christian Dior

    The original Diorling is exactly as Cacio described it, a beautiful, smooth, leather chypre, probably closest to Cabochard but more polished and gleaming. (I love Cabochard, but it's supposed to be a...
  2. Re: Serge Lutens adds 5 new scents to luxury line

    These prices are just too high and are clearly intended for the über-nouveaux-riches who don't know any better but to buy the most expensive toy. I mean, Jean Patou's Joy is practically a bargain in...
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    Re: Fragrances spotted in movies!

    I think it was in the middle of the film, when they're worrying about the daughter's upcoming marriage. It's been a couple of years now so I can't quite remember.
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    Re: 6 new scents from Bvlgari - La Gemme

    Uggh, the bottles look so cheap and chintzy!
  5. Re: New Luca Turin reviews: Hermès, Lush/Gorilla

    I didn't think the Jardin was that bad. I would have given it 3 stars. To be sure, it's pedestrian and overpriced, but it doesn't smell horrible. I admit I'm very fond of jasmine. I guess part of...
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    Re: Fragrances spotted in movies!

    In one scene of Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, Katharine Hepburn opens a medicine chest (I think; or they might have been on her vanity) and there are several bottles of vintage Dior EdTs with the...
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    Re: Male Female monsters, whats yours?

    Jean Paul Gaultier Le Mâle, which I absolutely loathe. It goes on forever.
    Clinique Aromatics Elixir. The original is even stronger than the parfum released as "perfumer's reserve" in 2011.
    Estée...
  8. Re: New Luca Turin reviews: Dior, Elie Saab, Guerlain

    Couldn't have said it better. I have learned so much from reading Turin's work. He'll never know how much he's taught me.
  9. Re: New Luca Turin reviews: Dior, Elie Saab, Guerlain

    The sugar obsession isn't just a US phenomenon, or else Lancôme's sugary La Vie est Belle wouldn't be France's top bestseller. I don't find that the average European customer's level of taste is...
  10. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    Estée Lauder has quietly discontinued Private Collection Jasmine White Moss, a very nice green "new" chypre. Get it while stocks last.
  11. Re: New fragrance from Christian Dior, La Collection Privée - Coming May 2015

    I'm surprised by the amount of love François Demachy, Dior's in-house perfumer, is getting here. (Full disclosure: I haven't tried any of the Dior Collection privée fragrances, which many of you are...
  12. Re: Remember the violet candies wrapped in purple tinfoil?

    I tried Misia and it starts off with an overwhelming Parma violets accord. Then it settles into that plush, luxurious iris that Chanel insists on putting in every fragrance. It's nice, but violets,...
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    Re: Help with Dating a Chanel no 19

    While we're on the topic of chanel no 19: something I've always wondered about has been the color of the juice. Was it always tinted a greenish color, even in the 1970s? I thought that the green was...
  14. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    L'Artisan has been quietly discontinuing:

    Vanille Absolument
    Coeur de Vetiver Sacré
    Fleur de Liane
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    Re: "Green" scents

    People are listing a lot of fragrances I'm surprised to see described as "green." Particularly the vetivers (and Sycomore, Encre Noire): to me, Vetiver is a rooty, woody smell (Michael Edwards puts...
  16. Re: L'Homme Ideal by Guerlain - Eau De Cologne?!?!

    My feeling is that if Guerlain has to put out some mass-market scents so they can support higher-quality but less-well-selling lines, that's fine with me. For a sweet floral, LPRN isn't bad, and for...
  17. Re: Critically acclaimed but a commercial failure?

    Oops! Paul P, you're right. I forgot the thread was for critically acclaimed flops, not deserved flops. Yes, Mahora also failed because by all accounts it smells putrid.
  18. Re: Critically acclaimed but a commercial failure?

    Oh here's one: Truth by Calvin Klein (2000). Apparently this is one of the only good recent CK's (the women's version), but it didn't sell well and I think it's been axed.
  19. Re: Critically acclaimed but a commercial failure?

    Mahora is an interesting case. It was a disaster when it launched in 2000. But ever since its rerelease into the Parisiennes line as "Mayotte" in 2005, it's been a steady seller. One Guerlain...
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    Re: A spooky, sensual forest perfume?

    Ormonde Man is good, but I'd actually recommend Ormonde Woman, which in spite of the name is totally unisex and has a dark, mysterious black hemlock note.
  21. Re: Most unique greens. I'm talking greens that leave you speechless!

    Estee Lauder's Aliage is a great unisex green classic, with a bitter galbanum opening.
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    Re: Estee Lauder acquires Frederic Malle

    To be honest, I think people are getting unnecessarily freaked out. EL has a much better track record with respect to its various brands than the vast majority of conglomerates out there (I'd be a...
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    Re: 2014 Caron discontinuations?

    Hi Hednic, so far, so good when it comes to the men's line: Yatagan, 3e homme, Pour un Homme, and Impact (formerly Impact pour un Homme) all seem present and accounted for. They're also all still...
  24. Re: "accessories for fragrances" brand atomizers?

    I also have to agree: I've ordered from them many times. Everything is carefully packaged, the owners throw in droppers and funnels for free, and they even refund you the extra postage if the package...
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    2014 Caron discontinuations?

    I have a subscription to Michael Edwards' fragrance database--the one that lets you sort by fragrance house, year, nose, and also keeps notes on discontinuations. I logged on last night and was...
  26. Re: Chanel no 5 Eau Premiere - Sensational Barbershop Vibe !!

    I love this one: it has a lot of orange and lemon peel, with nice aldehydic woods.

    David, this one was slightly reformulated (at the time that Chanel repackaged it from the tall, slim bottle to...
  27. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    Dior's Diorama, the rereleased EdT in the "Créations de Monsieur Dior" series launched a few years ago, has been discontinued. I wrote Dior's French customer service an e-mail, and they confirmed...
  28. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    Tom Ford has been merciless at discontinuing Private Blend scents that don't sell. In 2009 the company introduced four "White Musk" fragrances (Jasmine Musk, Musk Pure, Urban Musk, and White Suede),...
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    Re: Exploring Caron more thoroughly

    I find Caron frustrating because almost everyone agrees that most of the current forumulations are pretty disastrous. Sugandaraja has given some helpful suggestions; does anyone else have suggestions...
  30. Re: Now you can eat Estée Lauder Private Collection

    Cacio, the banana cake flanker is PC Amber Ylang-Ylang, which I've heard is pretty overpowering. It's still available, as far as I know. The other two flankers (PC Jasmine White Moss and PC Tuberose...
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    Re: Chanel No 19 Discontinued??

    It's not discontinued, but its availability has been severely curtailed in the USA. Regular Chanel no 19 EdP is not typically sold at most stores in the USA (except some flagship department stores,...
  32. Re: Discontinued Fragrances Source/Database Sorted by Year Intro and Year Discontinued???

    I've never seen a database that gives discontinuation dates, because companies generally don't like to advertise when something is taken out of production.
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    Re: Are they discontinued????

    I'm almost certain that Vol de Nuit, Chamade, ALO and Jicky have not been discontinued. Vol and ALO are in pretty limited distribution, though.

    Jardins de Bagatelle is another story: the EdT has...
  34. Re: What cheap fragrance generated more compliments when you wore during all day

    I have to second this: I get more compliments on Cabaret than any other fragrance I own. It is sophisticated, fresh, and easy to wear, perhaps better on men than on women. It's also ridiculously...
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    Re: Chamade - current formulations

    With Chamade, there are two algorithms to take into account: formula and version (EdT, EdP, Extrait). Regarding formula, I'm told that Chamade went through a bare patch along with Mitsouko between...
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    Re: Jean Patou: 2 new rereleases in 2014!

    More Patou news:

    2014 re-releases are, as announced, Deux-Amours (Amour-Amour), Que Sais-Je, and Adieu Sagesse.

    I'm a lot more excited about the 2015 re-releases:

    L'Heure Attendue (1946), a...
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    Re: NEW: Guerlain Shalimar Souffle de Parfum

    PI L'Eau was discontinued quietly sometime last year. M. Guerlain has confirmed that the entire line was axed this year, so if you like PI, now's the time to stock up while existing stock lasts.
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    Re: NEW: Guerlain Shalimar Souffle de Parfum

    OMG Ken Cosgrove, this is exactly how I feel. I'm convinced Shalimar Parfum Initial would have done better had it not been labeled Shalimar. On the other hand, M. Guerlain says that his contacts at...
  39. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    More Guerlain discontinuations:

    Shalimar Parfum Initial (all versions and flankers)
    The "Une ville, un parfum" collection:
    Shanghai
    Moscow
    London
    Tokyo
    New York
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    Re: Guerlain Les Eaux

    Du Coq is my favorite: as the other posters noted, it has lavender and some herbal notes that help give it the edge. Cologne du Parfumeur has orange blossom and white musks, but it's significantly...
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    Re: Chanel Eau Premiere

    I tried on the stuff in the "new" bottle (the one that looks like the classic no. 5 EdP bottle) over the weekend. If there's been a formula change, it is, thankfully, minimal. This still smells as...
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    Re: Vintage vs modern Diorama

    Hi Cacio. I absolutely love Diorama: it's one of my favorites. Truth be told, I think I like it better than either Femme or Mitsouko. It's less cerebral than Mitsouko but sunnier and airier than...
  43. Re: Please compare Vintage and modern Caron Bellodgia

    Hi Cacio, thanks for your input. It could be I just prefer the spicy facets of carnation to the creamy ones.
  44. Re: Jean Patou Ma Collection - Vacances has arrived

    Lili, if you weren't in Australia, I'd ship you an ounce of Moment Suprême. I have 500 ml of the parfum!
  45. Re: Please compare Vintage and modern Caron Bellodgia

    My bottle of Bellodgia--I don't know the age--does not smell at all to me like carnation. It's creamy and floral, but doesn't have the spicy facet that I associate with that flower.
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    Re: Vintage vs modern Diorama

    Hi Lili and Cacio, I have a vintage bottle of the parfum and the EdT. The fruity, orange-peel note is a LOT more pronounced in the parfum, which smells like an intermediary between the plum of Femme...
  47. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    Guerlain discontinuations, 2013–4:

    Jardins de Bagatelle, EdT (EdP remains available)
    L'Instant magic
    Guerlain Homme, l'Eau
    Shalimar Parfum Initial, l'Eau
    Idylle Eau Sublime
    Véga
    Sous le Vent
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    Re: Jean Patou: 2 new rereleases in 2014!

    Fragrantica has a story on this today. It looks like a third re-release will be 1925's Adieu Sagesse, a floral with a gardenia accent.
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    Jean Patou: 2 new rereleases in 2014!

    Hi all,

    Last year Patou rereleased three classics: Patou pour Homme, Eau de Patou, and Chaldée. I'm delighted to announce that it looks like they will continue to do so in 2014. I have a...
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    Re: I'm a Masculine Man Wearing Shalimar

    Guerlain's scents are mostly unisex. There are exceptions (Champs-Elysées) but for the most part a guy can pull off almost all of the classics.

    One of the ones that I find works really well on me...
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    Re: Favorite Animalic Scents

    Cacio mentioned the two vintages that I found really, really dirty. Shocking is a sweet leather: it has a pronounced honey note but it smells, (ahem), I'm told, like a woman's dirty knickers. People...
  52. Re: "Unisex" - SA's having serious gender issues

    I'd like to follow up on the issue of the Male/Female fragrance boards on Basenotes, which I find increasingly passé and annoying. Other sites don't do this. Most new niche offerings are marketed as...
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    Re: Best Green fragrances?

    Estee Lauder Aliage-
    Robert Piguet Futur

    both suitable for unisex wear
  54. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    Hi David, yes, as part of the 2013 repackaging, the following have been discontinued as EdTs and are only available in EdCs. I like colognes, but they simply have no lasting power at all:

    Eau...
  55. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    Oh yes, and Annick Goutal has been discontinuing mercilessly since they repackaged everything in 2013:

    Folavril
    Eau de Camille
    Myrrhe Ardente
    Le Mimosa
    Mon parfum Chérie
  56. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    Jean Patou has also discontinued a bunch of fragrances ever since PG&E sold it. They're bringing back some classics but the following have been axed:

    Enjoy
    Sira des Indes
  57. Sticky: Re: Recently Discontinued/ Due To Be Discontinued Fragrances......???

    Re: Balmain, according to Michael Edwards' database (to which I have a subscription), Miss Balmain and Jolie Madame have both been discontinued. Ivoire is still around, but it went through a major...
  58. Re: Midnight Poison/ Dior Addict Has Been Discontinued

    Dior has the reformulation bug BAD. Since François Demachy became the in-house nose, he has reformuated virtually the entire catalogue. Dior Addict was reformulated in 2012, so I doubt that they'll...
  59. Re: Deal-breaker notes, What are your least favorite perfume notes?

    Here's my list of dislikes:

    Gourmands in the Angel style: with caramel and chocolate notes (usually on a patchouli-base)

    Fruit like berries, nectarines, strawberry in the fruity floral style
    ...
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    Re: Three New Chanel Exclusifs Extraits

    I agree with Sasuke. What a snore-fest. I haven't smelled 1932, but Beige was totally pedestrian. Jersey has some fans on here, but I thought it was awful: lavender cough-syrup.
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    Re: Most Flankers spawned by one fragrance

    For me, the flanker award goes to parfums Grès Cabotine and to Dior's J'Adore and MIss Dior. They both have well over 15 flankers. J'adore is even more confusing becuase the original fragrance has...
  62. Re: Fragrance families: which method of categorizing do you prefer and why?

    In the past, I've been mistrustful of perfume categories. I'm glad that that the French Society of Perfumers' system works for Natural Juice, but I just gave up: it's too complicated and certain...
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    Re: Hermessence Longevity?

    I agree with Janjanjan. I appreciate the quality, but these are so expensive that they aren't worth it for me. Actually I feel the same way about most of the Chanel exclusifs as well: two of my...
  64. Re: What is Parfum de Toilette in terms of concentration?

    Hi Hedonic, there was a period in the 1980s when a bunch of perfume houses used this term. Guerlain most famously: it's only in the late 1990s that Guerlain bowed to the general trend and relabeled...
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    Serge Lutens: Confusion about lines/labels

    I'm completely confused by Serge Lutens.

    I know the big distinction is the export line in the rectangular bottles v. the exclusive lines in the bell jars. But it's been blurred by the fact that...
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    Re: Three New Chanel Exclusifs Extraits

    Hi Horns, no, it hasn't been discontinued, but it's been severely restricted. The parfum is no longer available for sale in the US (at least, nowhere I've been able to find it, including the Saks in...
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    Re: Three New Chanel Exclusifs Extraits

    As often happens, Cacio stole the words right out of my mouth. I suspect this is going to be informed mainly by what sells, which is why I suspect that the subpar Beige will be among the three.
    ...
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    Re: New Fragrance: Chanel Les Exclusifs 1932

    HI Cacio and graphite, sorry I came across hating on Jersey. I'm sure it is lovely on the two of you. It just was one of those things that REALLY wasn't my style!
  69. Re: Jean Patou Ma Collection - Vacances has arrived

    LiliB, where did you get the Vacances extrait? Do you have 11 out of the 12 "ma collection" bottles? I only have an ounce of "Cocktail" and a half-empty bottle of "Colony." My Colony's topnotes are...
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    Re: New Fragrance: Chanel Les Exclusifs 1932

    Jersey was terrible! It's hard to imagine how you can go so wrong with lavender and vanilla when you have Jicky and Pour un Homme de Caron as two totally different models, but it was dreadful....
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    Re: "Female" fragrances that arnt too feminine for men.

    Rochas "Femme" is totally suitable to men. I gave a bottle to my hairdresser, and her (macho Latino) husband swiped it! Guess I won't tell him "Femme" means "woman" in French.

    Gres, Cabaret...
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    Re: Guerlain - Les Deserts d'Orient

    I saw these at Galleries Lafayette in Paris this weekend. I tried Songe d'un Bois d'été (I wasn't interested in the other two.) I hate to say this, but I was really, really disappointed. I don't know...
  73. Re: Fragrances wich belong to the Edwards created Soft Oriental family?

    Cacharel's Loulou
    Procter and Gamble, Old Spice
    Chanel, Coco (the original)
    Caron, Royal Bain de Caron
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    Re: Cuir de Russie EDT vs Parfum

    There are a couple of other leathers I'd recommend:

    Cabochard by Grès, a classic leather chypre. The vintage parfum is excellent, rich and complex. The current EdP is not as bad as many people...
  75. Re: New Fragrances: Robert Piguet The Nouvelle Collection

    Any idea of how Piguet intends to market these? Obviously something called "Mademoiselle" is targeted to women, but the others aren't clearly masculine or feminine. I wear whatever I want, so I'm not...
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    Re: A question about YSL Paris

    I'm not sure it's worth buying "vintage" Paris. The EdP still smells very good and the quality has been pretty steady over the years. My academic mentor wore this for years before her death and I...
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    Re: Vol de Nuit - delightful

    I'd have to agree with Larimar and the others: Vol de Nuit, no matter what the formulation, has never had great longevity. I have a vintage bottle that dates to 1936 and it still doesn't outperform...
  78. Re: Turin & Sanchez -- A Little Book of Perfumes

    Larimar is right--my 2008 bottle of LHB extrait is still amber-colored and still excellent. The new horrible reformation is probably ca 2010 to coincide with the new IFRA regulations.

    You know...
  79. Re: Turin & Sanchez -- A Little Book of Perfumes

    I saw Tania's post today. I knew that Opium has been poorly reformulated, but didn't know about Joy.

    Larimar, have you noticed that L'Heure Bleue has recently gone down in quality? Up until now,...
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    Re: New Chanel: No 19 Poudre and Jersey

    Everyone keeps mentioning the combination of lavender and vanilla in Jersey, but no one has compared it to Jicky, whose dominant notes are also lavender and vanilla. Does anyone have a comparison?
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    Re: Skanky perfumes

    Don't forget Dior's Jules, a really skanky fougère, less common than Kouros.
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    Re: Guerlain classics worn by men

    What a fun thread. I have all five (Jicky, Shalimar, Vol de Nuit, L'Heure Bleue, Mitsouko) in extrait and I wear them frequently. I also have Shalimar in vintage PdT.

    Of these, I think I'd agree...
  83. Re: What a magical discovery : Bvlgari pour homme

    I love this one. It's one of the only modern fougères that feels elegant and sophisticated rather than overpowering and raunchy. It has a watercolorlike elegance that I appreciate very much.
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    Re: Estee Lauder Sensuous EDP

    Totally a unisex option. I got a sample and wore it for a few days. It wasn't for me, but it's not because it's too "feminine," it just isn't my style.
  85. Re: Parfums - which scents are the must have and which are the 'not worth it.

    HI Gumoosh,

    I would strongly recommend getting Dolce Vita only in the parfum, not the EdT. The EdT was reformulated in the 2000's so the original idea lives on only in the parfum version, which...
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    Re: The ones Luca Turin got wrong, your opinion

    I actually find myself disagreeing with Luca Turin more than I do with Tania Sanchez, though I respect both of their opinions.

    One thing I don't like is their inconsistency regarding the...
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    Re: What was the first fruity floral?

    Actually, if I had to label the first fruity floral, I'd probably pick a surprise choice: Guerlain's Nahéma (1978). Yes it's primarily a rose fragrance, but it has a significant passionfruit note...
  88. Re: Seriously, why do Turn & Sanchez hate Creed so much?

    Thanks Redneck for a very interesting and thought-provoking comment.

    What bothers me most about Creed is the dishonesty. False history and royal connections, okay fine, they aren't unique in...
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    Re: Vol de Nuit - delightful

    I recently won a sealed bottle of vintage VDN from the 1930's on Ebay, and it's just fabulous. The modern is very good also, but suffers longevity problems--that must be the removal of the natural...
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    Re: Givenchy III as a masculine

    I've smelled both vintage and current Givenchy III. The vintage has more depth and richness (I have the EdP). The current one is probably greener and lighter (oakmoss restrictions, EdT). Both are...
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    Re: Question about how to combat Ebay fraud

    If you PM me, I will send you his Ebay ID.
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    Question about how to combat Ebay fraud

    Hello all,

    Over the past couple of months I've been getting angrier and angrier about a certain e-bay member who is clearly selling fraudulent "vintage" fragrances. I realize that rare bottles of...
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    Re: Chanel Nº 19

    I wear this all the time. I do find the EdP more immediately floral than the EdP and the parfum. The modern parfum and EdT are very good. But as have others have pointed out, the vintage stuff is...
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    Re: Next Vintages to Become "UBER" RARE?

    I agree about Paris parfum: I've never seen a photo of the bottle. I thought perhaps it was only ever made as EdP! I'd classify that one as simply impossible to find, along with Apres l'ondee parfum....
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    Re: Guerlain Experts to the rescue please !

    I have also heard that Nahéma parfum has been "temporarily" discontinued, due to the listing of one of its ingredients (some kind of orchid) on an endangered list. I don't know if that is true, but I...
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    Re: Basenoter's guidance

    If you are looking for leather, you really can't go wrong with Piguet's Bandit, which is a reference leather chypre and in my opinion better suited for masculine wear these days.
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    Re: Best unscented body wash?

    Dove's Sensitive unscented body wash. It has a very light scent that isn't detectable once you towel off.
  98. Re: question about Shalimar Eau Légère / Shalimar Light / Eau de Shalimar

    THanks so much Mr. Guerlain. Now, my only (humble) suggestion: add this info to your already SPLENDID website, which I check obsessively.
  99. question about Shalimar Eau Légère / Shalimar Light / Eau de Shalimar

    Hi everyone,

    I'm trying to uncross my wires about the very complicated history of the "modernized" Shalimar versions. Basenotes' directory and Ebay haven't been much help.

    My understanding (I...
  100. Re: Article: Douglas Hannant launches fragrance in collaboration with Robert Piguet

    The Piguet reissues have been of such high quality that I'm sure this will be wonderful.
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